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ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Radish posted:

It's getting really frustrating that this sort of thing is being covered more in the media because of camera phones and such but no one seems to want to do anything about it.

The USPS might, in this case, should the cops involved be found to have acted unlawfully. They take the mail pretty seriously.

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Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

gradenko_2000 posted:

Can't whine about incrementalism if nothing incrementally good ever happens.

So on average we're all just as bad off as we were three hundred years ago?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Mozi posted:

So on average we're all just as bad off as we were three hundred years ago?

No I'd imagine most of us are white males.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

zoux posted:

No I'd imagine most of us are white males.

Counterpoint: smallpox.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/RumsfeldOffice/status/715898505173270528

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

The text of Robert Morrow's latest NSFW tweet:
Good night Anime booby girl, I wuv you, I wuv you, I wuv you!!! Skeet skeet skeet!

PC LOAD LETTER
May 23, 2005
WTF?!

DemeaninDemon posted:

Perhaps I spend too much time in the Freep thread then.
Oooohhh yea those guys. The Repubs definitely have a uncomfortably large number of people like that as party members. I don't believe its a majority though.

I think of people that far gone as cult members who have to bottom out on their own and walk away from the cult before you can talk to them reasonably. That might not be the best way to view them but nothing else seems to make sense to me.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

DemeaninDemon posted:

Counterpoint: smallpox.

I was being glib but there is a sense among white people that things are better for minorities (read: black people) than they used to be, but in terms of access to social services, incarceration, poverty, etc. black people aren't doing that much better than they were in the 1950s, and people need to remember we have a long, long way to go.

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

DemeaninDemon posted:

Counterpoint: smallpox.
Thanks to mostly suburbanite white anti-vaxxers, perhaps not for long!

EDIT: And perhaps also thanks to global warming!

Inferior Third Season fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Apr 1, 2016

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

Quandary posted:

Is that reading list in the OP still considered worth reading? I've been looking for some politics books.
I'll recommend Slavery by Another Name yet again, because it is an astounding look at the "lost" history of African Americans between post-reconstruction and the 1960's, and it shows how it's really one continuous movement rather than separate. Seriously, everyone should watch it, it's amazingly good (and depressing).


ComradeCosmobot posted:

[*]Foreign Policy:
I could post some :words:, but really all I have to say is: Imagine an ISIL flag on a hill exploding, forever. 18 months on and that's pretty much still how our anti-ISIL strategy is going, and it's going pretty good.

fade5 fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Apr 1, 2016

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

I would also ad EJ Dione's new book o your list: http://books.simonandschuster.com/Why-the-Right-Went-Wrong/E-J-Dionne/9781476763798
As well as Steven Brill's healthcare book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LYXY05S/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

fade5 posted:

I could post some :words:, but really all I have to say is: Imagine an ISIL flag on a hill exploding, forever. 18 months on and that's pretty much still how our anti-ISIL strategy is going, and it's going pretty good.

Should also mention in that section how we've realized Cuba doesn't have cooties any more, the President touched them and he's fine.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Pssh, everybody knows what really happened is that Fidel passed on his socialist powers for Obama to carry on his mission.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Inferior Third Season posted:

Thanks to mostly suburbanite white anti-vaxxers, perhaps not for long!

EDIT: And perhaps also thanks to global warming!

Winner!!!!

White people sure do like wiping people out with disease.

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Mozi posted:

Pssh, everybody knows what really happened is that Fidel passed on his socialist powers for Obama to carry on his mission.

You have that backwards

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Mozi posted:

Pssh, everybody knows what really happened is that Fidel passed on his socialist powers for Obama to carry on his mission.

Well my traditionally republican dad today said that he would support a New Deal program to give people jobs doing public works projects around the country so the time is right, comrades :getin:

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


haveblue posted:

Should also mention in that section how we've realized Cuba doesn't have cooties any more, the President touched them and he's fine.

But what's its incubation period? I mean, once upon a time some lady touched a Cuban and Ted Cruz happened.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Radish posted:

It's getting really frustrating that this sort of thing is being covered more in the media because of camera phones and such but no one seems to want to do anything about it.

I'm curious when one of these will end with the crowd attacking the police while they're manhandling a local. It's happened before and it's bound to happen again. And once the seal is broken, I'd imagine there will be good chance of it spreading to similar neighborhoods around the country (assuming the police don't just bomb the neighborhood like they did in Philly).

menino
Jul 27, 2006

Pon De Floor
Real hourly earnings looking sexy

https://twitter.com/CEAChair/status/715895401308667904

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

April Fools jokes are supposed to be funny.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Well my traditionally republican dad today said that he would support a New Deal program to give people jobs doing public works projects around the country so the time is right, comrades :getin:

I wonder how quickly we could get a constitutional convention together to repeal the 22nd amendment. I think you might get a group of republicans onboard with 4 more years of Obama.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

Abel Wingnut posted:

so ny, ca, and wa will have $15 min wages in the future. any other states?

It's Seattle that will have the $15. The state legislature failed to pass a $15 minimum wage using the excuse that the rural parts of the state can't handle it.

There's currently an initiative in the works to raise the state minimum to $13.50 over 4 years that also makes sick leave mandatory.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

ReidRansom posted:

The USPS might, in this case, should the cops involved be found to have acted unlawfully. They take the mail pretty seriously.

Which is more than can be said about DeBlasio, who seems to be much more chummy with the NYPD after they turned their backs on him and he caved rather than fire and replace a bunch of petulant racist children with guns. If DeBlasio doesn't get blown away in his reelection I'll be surprised. He seems like he's compromised or just not given a gently caress compared to how he campaigned.

Arresting a postal worker while on duty and without cause then hitting another loving vehicle while your prisoner isn't belted in should land all those plainclothes assholes in gen pop at Rikers but nothing's going to happen to them aside from desk duty unless the Feds can and do decide to go after them, and hopefully they do.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Tempest_56 posted:

It was announced as $15 for NYC, $12.50 for the rest of the state. Which is annoying but not unreasonable - the cost of living in NYC is completely out of whack with the rest of the state.

One thing worth pointing out is that a $15 minimum in NYC still affects a lot of people in the rest of NY, since they will commute into NYC, yes including for low wage jobs that would be affected. As well as people who commute in from North Jersey and a few people from Connecticut.

Inferior Third Season posted:

Thanks to mostly suburbanite white anti-vaxxers, perhaps not for long!


Er, you know that only soldiers and certain doctors have gotten vaccinated for smallpox in the past couple of decades right? The medical community simply doesn't bother vaccinating against a dead disease.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

fishmech posted:

One thing worth pointing out is that a $15 minimum in NYC still affects a lot of people in the rest of NY, since they will commute into NYC, yes including for low wage jobs that would be affected. As well as people who commute in from North Jersey and a few people from Connecticut.


Er, you know that only soldiers and certain doctors have gotten vaccinated for smallpox in the past couple of decades right? The medical community simply doesn't bother vaccinating against a dead disease.

Article he posted was some sci-fi horror movie level poo poo if you bothered to click on it, fish man.

Outbreak other than smallpox, but equal in scale, could happen though due to a particularly mean disease finding new territory to gain ground.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Smallpox vaccines suck but I figure the anthrax vaccine will gently caress me up worse later in life.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Mr. Nice! posted:

Smallpox vaccines suck but I figure the anthrax vaccine will gently caress me up worse later in life.

"We've found that your issues are not service related. Thanks for ruining your joints, back, and health for the good of your country" - VA

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Zombie Smallpox Corpses, next on Syfy!


Needs more animal hybrids, though.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Who the hell is still getting smallpox vaccines besides like CDC workers and anti bioterror agents?

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

zoux posted:

Who the hell is still getting smallpox vaccines besides like CDC workers and anti bioterror agents?

Are Troupe

tehllama
Apr 30, 2009

Hook, swing.

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Well my traditionally republican dad today said that he would support a New Deal program to give people jobs doing public works projects around the country so the time is right, comrades :getin:

I have also managed to get that out of a wealthy, traditionally republican friend who agreed we're locking way too many people up and spending way too much money for nothing on drug crimes. He even consented to education programs that would give those released from prison technical skills, and perhaps some public works projects to employ the glut of people released. To which I said to him, SOUNDS LIKE SOCIALISM COMRADE!

fishmech posted:

One thing worth pointing out is that a $15 minimum in NYC still affects a lot of people in the rest of NY, since they will commute into NYC, yes including for low wage jobs that would be affected. As well as people who commute in from North Jersey and a few people from Connecticut.


Er, you know that only soldiers and certain doctors have gotten vaccinated for smallpox in the past couple of decades right? The medical community simply doesn't bother vaccinating against a dead disease.

They also leave a scar and are not totally benign.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

ReidRansom posted:

The USPS might, in this case, should the cops involved be found to have acted unlawfully. They take the mail pretty seriously.

Even if they had PC for the arrest, you can't just arrest a postal worker on duty and leave their truck.

At least one cop lost badge and gun and IA is investigating too. Feds are probably interested too.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
^^^ Good, I hope the Feds make an example of them as a warning to the NYPD (they won't).

zoux posted:

Who the hell is still getting smallpox vaccines besides like CDC workers and anti bioterror agents?

People who travel internationally for business.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

DemeaninDemon posted:

Winner!!!!

White people sure do like wiping people out with disease.

When your good at something and it works, why change?

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Even if they had PC for the arrest, you can't just arrest a postal worker on duty and leave their truck.

At least one cop lost badge and gun and IA is investigating too. Feds are probably interested too.

What sort of genius idea compelled them to arrest a postal worker on shift besides something horribly, virulently racist? It just doesn't look good on cameras at all.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

zoux posted:

Who the hell is still getting smallpox vaccines besides like CDC workers and anti bioterror agents?

The Division

Kro-Bar
Jul 24, 2004
USPOL May

Your Dunkle Sans posted:

What sort of genius idea compelled them to arrest a postal worker on shift besides something horribly, virulently racist? It just doesn't look good on cameras at all.

According to stories I've read the mailman yelled at them because they almost hit his mail truck and that's when they started hassling him. Notably they arrested him solely for "resisting arrest," which is just some classic hindsight bullshit.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Your Dunkle Sans posted:

What sort of genius idea did they have to bother arresting a postal worker on shift besides something horribly, virulently racist? It just doesn't look good on cameras at all.

Shouting match over bad driving (on the part of the cops).

haveblue fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Apr 1, 2016

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Sir Tonk posted:

The Division

please don't doxx

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BobTheJanitor
Jun 28, 2003

Your Dunkle Sans posted:

What sort of genius idea compelled them to arrest a postal worker on shift besides something horribly, virulently racist? It just doesn't look good on cameras at all.

Idiot cops nearly ran over a New Yorker, he reacted like a New Yorker.

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