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Your Dunkle Sans posted:What sort of genius idea compelled them to arrest a postal worker on shift besides something horribly, virulently racist? It just doesn't look good on cameras at all. That dude they arrested is basically the perfect storm of "person NYPD will regret doing that to." He's a federal employee, was delivering mail at the time, did nothing illegal, is engaged to a police officer, and the whole thing was filmed. There's not much they can do that'll leave them looking good with this one. DiBlasio needs to use it to get NYPD to calm the gently caress down, he's not going to get another chance like this one. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Sir Tonk posted:That dude they arrested is basically the perfect storm of "person NYPD will regret doing that to." He's a federal employee, was delivering mail at the time, did nothing illegal, is engaged to a police officer, and the whole thing was filmed. I think you underestimate the ability of the NYPD to provide material like this, my friend!
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ReidRansom posted:The USPS might, in this case, should the cops involved be found to have acted unlawfully. They take the mail pretty seriously. who knew the Postal Mafia was so strong...
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zoux posted:Who the hell is still getting smallpox vaccines besides like CDC workers and anti bioterror agents? We got them when I was working EMS in NYC. We all thought that it was pretty ridiculous though.
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Kro-Bar posted:I think you underestimate the ability of the NYPD to provide material like this, my friend! Yeah but they might be smart enough to not do it to federal workers in the future.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Even if they had PC for the arrest, you can't just arrest a postal worker on duty and leave their truck. From what I had read, the cops weren't even undercover, they were supposed to be wearing uniforms and driving a patrol car. It sounds like they might all be hosed. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/n...&pgtype=article quote:The commissioner, William J. Bratton, said on Tuesday that the officers involved in the altercation belonged to the Police Department’s Conditions Unit, a neighborhood-based troubleshooting division that Mr. Bratton described as a preferred assignment. Phlairdon fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Junior G-man posted:I'd say so, yes, but would make a few additions: Those all sound like good suggestions so I'll add them to the OP, except for Fisk, since, in my experience, that's really more appropriate reading for the Middle East thread. Yeah, it contains an indictment of America in the Middle East, but that's only part of a larger thesis.
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Evil Fluffy posted:People who travel internationally for business. Eh, I travel to some sketchy places (seaports in developing countries) and I've never been required to get it.
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^^^ i guess it depends where exactly you go. Certain countries are pretty much a "you really should get this" if not required outright.Sir Tonk posted:That dude they arrested is basically the perfect storm of "person NYPD will regret doing that to." He's a federal employee, was delivering mail at the time, did nothing illegal, is engaged to a police officer, and the whole thing was filmed. He'll get other chances and he won't use them because he's a giant loving coward. When the NYPD turned its back on him like a bunch of children he had the perfect opportunity to start cleaning house and bringing in new leadership while having the perfect chance to stop poo poo like broken window policing.
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Why does NYC suck so bad? Even LA and Seattle at least attempt to reign in their police departments. I'm guessing the answer involves 9/11?
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Evil Fluffy posted:He'll get other chances and he won't use them because he's a giant loving coward. When the NYPD turned its back on him like a bunch of children he had the perfect opportunity to start cleaning house and bringing in new leadership while having the perfect chance to stop poo poo like broken window policing. Sounds like he won't have to. The Chief of Police is pissed: They were supposed to be in Uniform in a marked car. These guys are likely to, at least, be reassigned. quote:Over the past six years at least three of the officers involved have been named in federal civil rights suits alleging false arrest, among other claims. Most of the cases remain active, and such suits are not uncommon. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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mandatory lesbian posted:who knew the Postal Mafia was so strong... constitutionally empowered even.
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mandatory lesbian posted:who knew the Postal Mafia was so strong... Your postman is just a friendly fat guy with a weeks worth of shaving to catch up on, but if you gently caress with him while he's at work they will come after you and throw your rear end in jail on a federal felony. The USPS don't play.
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haveblue posted:Should also mention in that section how we've realized Cuba doesn't have cooties any more, the President touched them and he's fine. Was meaning to mention his trip last month, but forgot. Sorry. 
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Evil Fluffy posted:^^^ i guess it depends where exactly you go. Certain countries are pretty much a "you really should get this" if not required outright. I once got to go to the travel nurse and get six shots in one session, loads of fun let me tell you.
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Radbot posted:Why does NYC suck so bad? Even LA and Seattle at least attempt to reign in their police departments. I'm guessing the answer involves 9/11? That and I think they're still riding on the hype for "being the ones who cleaned up New York" in the 90s.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Smallpox vaccines suck but I figure the anthrax vaccine will gently caress me up worse later in life. Never reacted to it  Means I'm super-hosed later 
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MizPiz posted:That and I think they're still riding on the hype for "being the ones who cleaned up New York" in the 90s. It's not like most New Yorkers love the NYPD; Bill de Blasio pulled a major political upset over Christine Quinn in the mayoral primary because he was against stop and frisk.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Your postman is just a friendly fat guy with a weeks worth of shaving to catch up on, but if you gently caress with him while he's at work they will come after you and throw your rear end in jail on a federal felony. The USPS don't play. Slapping down the package in mid delivery and then kicking it is the cherry on top of the list of charges.
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Ceiling fan posted:Slapping down the package in mid delivery and then kicking it is the cherry on top of the list of charges. I worked for the USPS and you DO NOT want a Postal Inspector to decide you've been loving with the mail. Interfering with a Postal worker and leaving his truck unsecured is drat near a declaration of war.
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Boon posted:Never reacted to it They didn't just make you do it again? We had one or two onboard that were non-reactive that just had to back to doc a week later or something and get it again. I'm amazed that more dumbass sailors didn't end up with it all over their bodies.
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I will be incredibly surprised if those officers receive anything more than MAYBE a stern talking to. I find it more likely that the USPS employee starts getting more tickets when he is off duty. Maybe they picked the exact wrong federal agency to gently caress with but honestly the "oh man THIS is the time the feds step in to punish crooked cops!" and then nothing happening is getting stale. Cops being able to assault and murder with impunity is just how it is in America.
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Mr. Nice! posted:They didn't just make you do it again? We had one or two onboard that were non-reactive that just had to back to doc a week later or something and get it again. There were some wide cracks in the deck of our medical - they never noticed that somehow my medical record never had any audiology exam (I had taken upon entering). I found that out about 8 months before I got out, which was well over a year after getting off a ship. You never realize just how loving loud a ship is in a normal environment until it goes dark. I'm fairly certain my hearing took a pounding just from the ambient noise. E: Mystic_Shadow posted:Stop preaching for a candidate, that's what YCS is for. You're right, I cut it - kindly edit your quote  Boon fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Radish posted:I will be incredibly surprised if those officers receive anything more than MAYBE a stern talking to. I find it more likely that the USPS employee starts getting more tickets when he is off duty. Maybe in the short term. In reality though the Post Office actually has some very sharp teeth. They just show the so rarely that no one's really ever thought to pull them. Basically part of the reason the system works is that if the Post Office feels that you're tampering with or disrupting delivery of the mail they can reduce you to a smoldering crater (in a legal sense). Basically when those cops arrested the postman, they didn't gently caress with a single black man. They hosed with an entire federal institution and the Post Office is going to demand and very likely receive several pounds of flesh in return. It's not gonna be a case of "one dude versus NYPD" it's going to be a case of "Every lawyer the Post Office can spare versus NYPD" Alkydere fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Radish posted:I will be incredibly surprised if those officers receive anything more than MAYBE a stern talking to. I find it more likely that the USPS employee starts getting more tickets when he is off duty. Maybe they picked the exact wrong federal agency to gently caress with but honestly the "oh man THIS is the time the feds step in to punish crooked cops!" and then nothing happening is getting stale. Let's see if his cop fiancee gets fired.
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Ceiling fan posted:Slapping down the package in mid delivery and then kicking it is the cherry on top of the list of charges.
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Boon posted:There were some wide cracks in the deck of our medical - they never noticed that somehow my medical record never had an audiology exam that I had taken upon entering. I found that out about 8 months before I got out, which was well over a year after getting off a ship. Seperate point, you never realize just how loving loud a ship is in a normal environment until it goes dark. I'm fairly certain my hearing took a pounding from the ambient noise. Stop preaching for a candidate, that's what YCS is for.
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Litany Unheard posted:I worked for the USPS and you DO NOT want a Postal Inspector to decide you've been loving with the mail. Interfering with a Postal worker and leaving his truck unsecured is drat near a declaration of war. USPS v NYPD, now that's a court case I want to see. 
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:USPS v NYPD, now that's a court case I want to see. The USPS survived having to prepay pensions for the next couple decades, whats the NYPD got? Bring it on, bitch.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Your postman is just a friendly fat guy with a weeks worth of shaving to catch up on, but if you gently caress with him while he's at work they will come after you and throw your rear end in jail on a federal felony. The USPS don't play. When the Federal Government collapses into anarchy and America devolves into a Mad Max wasteland, the USPS will still deliver the mail. I'm not joking.
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Morrow posted:When the Federal Government collapses into anarchy and America devolves into a Mad Max wasteland, the USPS will still deliver the mail. We've seen the same documentary, I see. 
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MariusLecter posted:whats the NYPD got? Bring it on, bitch. Getting away with systemic oppression of minorities for as long as they've existed?
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Kevin Costner will make sure of it. Efb
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Kro-Bar posted:We've seen the same documentary, I see.
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Morrow posted:When the Federal Government collapses into anarchy and America devolves into a Mad Max wasteland, the USPS will still deliver the mail.  "The President's name... is Richard Starkey!"
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Why do they keep capitalizing "black"? Is this an April Fools joke? https://twitter.com/darrensands/status/715958338606010368
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Hmm... St. Paddy's day, plainclothes, rear ending a another car after nearly hitting the mailman, all sorts of aggressive behavior that's not just over the line but out in front of camera... ...anyone else thinking these guys were on the way back from getting tossed at the bar during lunch? Jarmak fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Boon posted:There were some wide cracks in the deck of our medical - they never noticed that somehow my medical record never had any audiology exam (I had taken upon entering). I found that out about 8 months before I got out, which was well over a year after getting off a ship. You never realize just how loving loud a ship is in a normal environment until it goes dark. I'm fairly certain my hearing took a pounding just from the ambient noise. I basically still hear the constant ventilation and haven't been on a ship in four years.
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Kro-Bar posted:We've seen the same documentary, I see. I had forgotten about that actually. Well, more repressed it.
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Morrow posted:I had forgotten about that actually. How could you forget Tom Petty?
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