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The claim that Christianity is the cause of anti-LGBT bigotry seems pretty weird to me considering that bigotry against homosexual sex and cross-dressing in European cultures predates Christianity by like millenia. Rather than coming from an obscure line in some Hebrew book alongside some nitpicky dietary poo poo that not even most Jews pay attention to anymore, it seems to have a lot more to do with the Greek and Roman convention that women are property and a man who dresses like one or allows himself to be penetrated like one has betrayed his manhood and made himself equal in status to a woman, in other words a station somewhere below horses and cattle but still above geese or nice furniture.
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rebel1608 posted:In any case you haven't come close to proving your idea that libertarians are now anti-gay marriage, and in fact your idea is incoherent. If they were anti-gay marriage, they wouldn't want the government to get out of the marriage licensing business because that would allow for gay marriage. Like you do understand this right? That when libertarians float the idea of marriage privatization they don't set limits on who can enter into such a contract? If it's a private contract and not a civil right, then businesses can decide not to recognize it, landlords can evict you for it, hospitals can refuse to accept it for visitation or medical decisions, adoption agencies can turn you away, presumably governments can choose which contracts they will or won't accept for purposes of taxation, inheritance, child custody, etc. I'm sure it varies from libertarian to libertarian whether giving every bigot in town veto power over gay people's lives is the regrettable cost of liberty or the goal.
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MaxxBot posted:When it was revealed that Ted Cruz had failed to tithe the proper amount on his tax return I saw some commentary from evangelical leaders along the lines of "we all struggle with that." Can you honestly say there could have been a similarly lenient response if it were found that Cruz had one time, even before his marriage, engaged in gay sex? They'd probably be okay with it as long as he said "We all struggle with sin" and continued to advocate lynching all gays. Just like they were fine with the Duggar guy molesting his sisters and they're currently fine with Donald Trump trading out for a younger model wife every 10 years even though pretty much the only thing Jesus said about sex and marriage is that divorce is for the hard-hearted and remarriage afterwards is adultery.
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