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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse
Most of the religious dickbags that qualify as the religious right make bad policies not because of religion, but because of their personal desires. It just happens that Christianity can be used as something to stand behind and shout "god says so". If these same people weren't religious or of a different religion, they'd still make the same bad policies, just they wouldn't fly the christian banner to defend their personal desires.
Gradually things are changing, but that's because we're slowly kicking the old 60 year old bigots that laughed at blacks getting the fire hose out as they retire or die off. It's an ongoing pattern that needs time as each generation becomes more liberal than the last.

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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

HappyHippo posted:

Um not really. Their religion absolutely plays a role (although some of the more cynical leaders might just be using it as a tool). To say that religion has no role in shaping the worldviews and ethical beliefs of ultraconservative evangelicalists is ridiculous.

As PTD said, people making these poo poo policies are going to be bastards one way or another. Bastards exist in every religious and non religious bent. It's just that the current ones united under one party and are dead set on setting certain policies because that's what they feel, religious background or not.
Take health care for example. This same group of people railed and cried and screamed about the wrongness of healthcare and did all they could to prevent or bastardize the deal. BUT, they were also crowing about how awesome the same exact idea was when their guy (Romney) was prancing around trying to get into office. Hell, when things go the way they want (supreme court nominee for instance), they kicked and screamed and fought against it simply because it was a democrat black guy that nominated him.
These people will willingly make the country tank to get their way for the simple reason that their party didn't get the credit.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Who What Now posted:

Yes, I'm sure that the religion teaching that LGBT types are vile sub-humans who need to be killed at worst and patronizingly pitied at best has nothing at all to do with them being uncool with LGBT types.

Of course it does, but not to some extent that's the only reason why. We've all been exposed to ridicule before when in school. It didn't take religion to finger the oddballs and give them the ire of everyone else. It's just human nature to dislike and fear things they don't understand. But much like racists flock to the KKK or Stormfront, the bastards in politics flock to the party that says the same poo poo they believe. Hell, there's even republican gays that think if they suck hard enough on the party cock they'll somehow avoid the hatred. After all, it's not like the opposing party isn't religious.

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