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Probably but it's not like Smash does like mvc-style outros where Wario shittalks K Rook either, I don't think Smash has appreciably more fanservice in the game itself E: Smash does have much better single player stuff though, which is to say it has any (though mvs is f2p so apples and oranges I guess) Countblanc fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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Countblanc posted:Probably but it's not like Smash does like mvc-style outros where Wario shittalks K Rook either, I don't think Smash has appreciably more fanservice in the game itself i think their point is more that its stuff people actually wanted to see. who wanted to see like, ayra and bugs bunny interact. or garnet and one of the gremlins. the scope is so large that it feels largely flavorless.
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Countblanc posted:Probably but it's not like Smash does like mvc-style outros where Wario shittalks K Rook either, I don't think Smash has appreciably more fanservice in the game itself I get your point but I think the choice of characters in itself is a form of fanservice after a certain point? Like King K Rool being in the game at all is definitely pandering. Something like LeBron in Multiversus is momentarily funny but that's all there is. Endorph posted:i think their point is more that its stuff people actually wanted to see. who wanted to see like, ayra and bugs bunny interact. or garnet and one of the gremlins. the scope is so large that it feels largely flavorless.
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Apr 12, 2024 15:45
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It's kind of the same issue the Sony All-Stars game had years back; simply bringing a bunch of disparate IPs together doesn't mean it's going to be inherently interesting for them to be there, even if (in that case) they were all video game characters and not just random IPs from a multimedia conglomerate.
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yea. nintendo and a few cameos from companies nintendo has at least some tie to is a small enough scope that it feels workable. like mario vs sonic is the stuff of 90s playground arguments. were any children having arguments about black adam vs rick and morty
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Endorph posted:yea. nintendo and a few cameos from companies nintendo has at least some tie to is a small enough scope that it feels workable. like mario vs sonic is the stuff of 90s playground arguments. were any children having arguments about black adam vs rick and morty It's also that Smash developed its own particular identity, style, and visual language across several iterations before they started bringing in action figures from another toybox, and those additions were properly integrated into what was previously defined.
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I feel like the wider the cross overs become the more cynical it feels kind of? Like "all the cartoons fight" seems workable, but once you start mixing in live action characters and just straight up real people it feels like you've made the net too wide and you're just chasing memes.
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Apr 12, 2024 15:59
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yea so many of these games just wanna skip right to the part where theyre a ubiquitous part of popculture and an esport and a fanboy dream instead of just, making a video game and seeing if people like it
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Ridley referencing ancient GameFAQs arguments over Melee is memes but a meme specifically for me.
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But COULD 1950s prime Ralphie beat LeBron in the post??
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As dismissive as I am about Smash as a competitive game and everything that has come with that, I do kinda miss the days back when they were leading up to the third game and doing those nightly reveal posts. Folks collectively F5ing the Nintendo site and losing their goddamn minds when we realized they were actually doing crossover characters was a lot of fun.
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Weird Pumpkin posted:I feel like the wider the cross overs become the more cynical it feels kind of? Like "all the cartoons fight" seems workable, but once you start mixing in live action characters and just straight up real people it feels like you've made the net too wide and you're just chasing memes. Hell, LeBron makes way more sense than Arya, he's at least interacted with Bugs and Taz before. Arya might have worked better if the LOTR characters and HP were in the game, but as it is, she sticks out like a sore thumb
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Weird Pumpkin posted:I feel like the wider the cross overs become the more cynical it feels kind of? Like "all the cartoons fight" seems workable, but once you start mixing in live action characters and just straight up real people it feels like you've made the net too wide and you're just chasing memes. Agreed I would personally be down for a well-presented Cartoon Network platform fighter (didn't that already happen, just not well-made and on the DS or something?) and heck you can still give spots to Supes and Batman as a result, or a Looney Tunes platform fighter but I concur with the sentiment that it's never really stuck in my head who would win in a fight between the Iron Giant and Steven Universe. MVS feels more like "well we have the license to all these IPs and the kids love that Smash so do that with what we have!"
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The thing with Multiversus's crossover stuff is it's not focused. There isn't a core. Smash Bros is by and large mostly Nintendo characters slamming against each other. There's an increasing number of toys from other toyboxes, but the majority of characters hail from Kyoto. Similarly, Capcom's Versus games restrict their core crossover to one other publisher for the most part. And of course, games like Injustice and Soul Calibur have their own core cast of characters that take center stage while the crossover characters are just special guests. Multiversus by comparison is all over the shop and mostly just feels like a worse Ready Player One as a result. They probably should have started with, like, a core "comics vs. cartoons" theme to the roster, emphasizing the DC and Looney Toons stuff (with sprinklings of the HB and Cartoon Network stuff) then gradually expanded out to GoT and the rest of the WB portfolio in post-release. But then, I'm just a guy posting on the internet and lack the sheer levels of cocaine and self-destructive urges that are hiring requirements in WB's suit-and-tie suite. 
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I mean that is WB's entire MO at this point. It feels like a worse Ready Player One because that is what they were going for, the new Space Jam movie was the exact same thing. They had the rapists from a Clockwork Orange in crowd shots in that film. There is no core to anything they are doing besides we own the IP.
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the funniest part of space jam 2 is that it ends with an ad for e3. e3 would never have another event after space jam 2 came out.
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I think for a crossover to work there needs to be some core. Like, Kingdom Hearts. Kingdom Hearts sounds bonkers "Final Fantasy and Disney movies? What?" But if you give it a little thought past the initial shock it makes sense. Both tend to be large bombastic stories where love, caring and friendship overcome cruelty and evil. They're not really 'similar' at first blush but they have a similar enough core that it forms the basis for a fun concept. People have pointed out the Anya Stark thing but... yeah, that really underlines Multiversus' issues. Why would you include a Game of Thrones character in something like Multiversus except because THE IP. You can point to Bayonetta in Smash but Bayonetta is cartoony as gently caress even if her game is M-rated.
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Saint Freak posted:Just emailed my opponent Superman Up-Special at D7. He's so hosed. I suspect he'll just concede.  ^underrated post Someone said "Multiversus is what happens when you let a C-Suite design a game" and yeah that seems accurate
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Weird Pumpkin posted:It kinda looks like when you'd play SFIV in a terrible connection where everything is under water and god awful. Why would you choose this footage to highlight your netcode improvements? You mean you don't want to play a smash like game that runs like it's on Windows 95? Such entitlement
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ImpAtom posted:Like, Kingdom Hearts. Kingdom Hearts sounds bonkers "Final Fantasy and Disney movies? What?" But if you give it a little thought past the initial shock it makes sense. Both tend to be large bombastic stories where love, caring and friendship overcome cruelty and evil. They're not really 'similar' at first blush but they have a similar enough core that it forms the basis for a fun concept. multiversus has the reindog.
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mycot posted:The thing that Smash Bros (and Marvel vs) understood that no Smash Clone has is the basic concept of fanservice. Solid Snake snapping Mario's neck or the Dante Deadpool shootout is what people want. Everyone else just smashes IPs together incoherently and are confused when Arya Stark vs Scooby Doo doesn't go viral. Multiversus could have been actually really good Cartoon network/ WB IPs brawling? Hell yeah Problem was also some of the character choices for initial roster were BIZARRE No Samurai Jack? A wierd space deer dog? Gremlins? LeBron James? It just had no real identity and just fell apart before it even started
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ImpAtom posted:You can point to Bayonetta in Smash but Bayonetta is cartoony as gently caress even if her game is M-rated.
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Snooze Cruise posted:the new Space Jam movie was the exact same thing. They had the rapists from a Clockwork Orange in crowd shots in that film. What? Lmao
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ColdPie posted:What? Lmao here are some properties we own don't you remember these intellectual properties isn't that cool 
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TGLT posted:here are some properties we own don't you remember these intellectual properties isn't that cool i don't think even midjourney could produce an image this execrable, jesus christ
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Endorph posted:jk rowlings everything might have also given them some hesitation. like hogwarts legacy made money but thats just a video game you put on shelves, when youre trying to be an Esport im sure theres some tourneys that wouldnt have run the game big corpos absolutely don't care about jk rowling's transphobia lol the vast majority of white bread american liberals don't know or care either hoglegs game's success is evidence enough of that.
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Multiversus Arya is also a anime stylized doe-eyed generic model, if you dressed her in blue and told me it was chun li id believe you
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Elephunk posted:Multiversus Arya is also a anime stylized doe-eyed generic model, if you dressed her in blue and told me it was chun li id believe you Yes And they decided to go with GOT After THAT disaster of a finale Just no clue at all lmao
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TGLT posted:here are some properties we own don't you remember these intellectual properties isn't that cool I just noticed Cheetara from Thundercats in the background lol
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Shinji2015 posted:I just noticed Cheetara from Thundercats in the background lol Thundercats would have been a great property to take fighting game characters for Much more so than Basketball and Hockey I do agree GOT can work if they had LOTR or even Harry Potter to also go that direction But Arya alone just sticks out like a sore thumb TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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https://twitter.com/calikingz01/status/1778665759302197473?t=L9HX7gMl0026qlmayGW5Lg&s=19
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Shinji2015 posted:I just noticed Cheetara from Thundercats in the background lol I seriously thought my friend was bullshitting me when they told me A Clockwork Orange was cameo'd in that movie. What cocaine addled psychopath thought that was a good choice for a kids movie. Can't wait for them to add a stage for it in Multiversus Edit: Just noticed I quoted the wrong post because I'm phone posting on break like an idiot. Gonna leave it, because Cheetara is cool. I made a really great Cheetara out of Killik's moveset in Soul Calibur 6. brainSnakes fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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Reindog, the Multiversus original character, whatever the gently caress THAT means
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Waffleman_ posted:Reindog, the Multiversus original character, whatever the gently caress THAT means not much dog, what's rein with you
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If the put Arya in it they should have thrown in Tony Soprano too, and one of those Entourage boys.
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Neo would have been funny
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The real biggest issue was that people managed to kind of understand that with such a broad wealth of IPs to draw from your personal favorites may not get in immediately, and they still managed to have a super underwhelming roster. Who the hell wanted Gizmo or Morty?
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Decided to start up Strive on a whim for the first time in a year or so, and I'm surprised that I can do motion inputs alright on a DS4 considering that I used KBM when I last played. Jack-O is definitely 3 levels harder than anything Rising, though, and that's just in the training room.
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VelociBacon posted:not much dog, what's rein with you The sad part is that Reindog was a lot of fun to play lol Waffleman_ posted:Neo would have been funny Neo would have brought with him a great explanation for what's happening in this stupid game: Neo found his way into the Ready Player One servers which is why he's suddenly fighting Superman and LeBron James. That's it, there's your story. Plus if you could get Keanu to do the VA work, you could do some jokes about John Wick and Bill and Ted
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