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I thought it was pretty good. Far from perfect but I just watched it and liked it. I'm not sure why it's been such a hate receptacle.
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an skeleton posted:You don't think this, of all movies, has been a hate receptacle? Yeah. To me at least it's seemed like a punching bag since before it was released, between the source material being so beloved and people flipping out over the casting. I think calling it unremarkable is fair though. It doesn't really excel at anything. I thought the visual design was actually pretty rad but the lack of restraint dragged it down. How many shots do we really need to see of the big rear end holograms all over the city etc? Everything else about it was fine but nothing really struck me as outstanding either. I thought it was a pretty competent remake if nothing else. Like, it could have been 10 times worse than it was and I liked that it mostly stuck pretty close to the original movie. The film's worst crime is that it doesn't really need to exist in the first place, and that just looms over it while you are watching. I don't think it was nearly as bad as some people make it out to be though.
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Jul 30, 2017 08:34
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How are they not comparable?
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Jul 30, 2017 19:31
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The point was that both movies got a lot of negative press before they were even released, regardless of anyone's feelings about casting or the legitimacy of complaints. The major difference is that ghostbusters probably actually benefitted from its debacle whereas GITS almost certainly didn't. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jul 30, 2017 |
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Jul 30, 2017 20:23
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Lol, I would not call that organized. Anyways, the original point was just that a bunch of people decided they hated both movies before they even came out. Doesn't really matter what the reasoning was or how valid it was in either case. That is what makes them comparable.
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Jul 31, 2017 01:40
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You are completely missing the point.
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Jul 31, 2017 02:07
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Go back and read the context of the conversation. Because you are trying to turn a very simple statement into a wrong/right thing. Someone said "it's like ghostbusters in that there was an internet talking head shitshow surrounding it" which is totally true. No one is defending anything, it's just a simple fact and you are arguing with yourself. I don't even totally disagree with you, but it's not relevant in the context of what was said.
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Jul 31, 2017 02:20
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You are ridiculous. I doubt anyone here even disagrees with you, but here you are trying argue semantics with walls of texts over a really basic and sensible statement.
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Jul 31, 2017 02:38
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No one said it was a 1:1 comparison. Both films were met with internet drama and judged by people before they even hit theaters. That is all that was said. No more, no less. You and one other person have tried to spin it into something else.
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Jul 31, 2017 03:26
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Snowman_McK posted:This is also true of every film released since the beginning of the internet. Half of it is true of every film released since the beginning of film as a commercial enterprise. Yup! that's why the Ghostbusters comparison came up in the first place! Now you are getting it. Now, who are you arguing with again?
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Jul 31, 2017 03:38
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Snowman_McK posted:Because they share a broad similarity that indicates nothing? But it was a lightning rod for hate, for a bunch of reasons that have already been mentioned. That's why they got compared. yes one was more extreme than the other. You yelling at the clouds about the intricacies of the Ghostbusters debacle in tyool 2017 is on you though. We all suffered through it together and are aware of what happened. You yourself just acknowledged the only reason a comparison was made is that it was an even more extreme example of a movie being really controversial, and attracting a lot of hate. You seem to agree with that sentiment. So, I agree with you. What are you trying to accomplish here?
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Jul 31, 2017 04:56
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Allright man, I give up. You seem dead loving set on making this about something it's not about and there is no changing your mind. You aren't wrong. You are just absolutely tone deaf to what the discussion was actually about and that clearly isn't going to change.
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Jul 31, 2017 06:13
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Snowman_McK posted:What is it about? I'm talking about audience interest and reaction, and what I've seen is a film that people couldn't even find the energy to hate. You are forgetting how much people were freaking out over the casting then. It was all over the place for a short while. True, it never hit close to the level of GB, but it was pretty dominant in the news cycle for a bit. It wasn't indifference. GITS got almost nothing but terrible press before it was released. Then to top it off fans were super negative about it as well, but that was pretty secondary.
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Jul 31, 2017 06:47
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Id' honestly like to know what your argument is, because I have no loving clue. Like, you just didn't want the comparison made in the first place or what? Please tell me why you just made me relive every obnoxious moment of the GB bullshit, because I'm coming up short on why this is the hill you decided to die on.
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Jul 31, 2017 07:40
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Milky Moor posted:Hah, it's sure a lot of words to say 'I like the anime and it did everything Good but this one did everything Bad'. Seriously. 7 minutes of "this subjective thing=good, this one=bad" . Which is how I feel about a lot of critiques of this movie. The anime does have a way better look to it though imo. Still, what a lame breakdown.
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Aug 5, 2017 08:21
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Dumb question, but does it even take place in Japan? I couldn't really tell.
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Aug 6, 2017 08:58
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Yeah I just meant the new film. I always just assumed the 1995 movie was in Japan.
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Aug 6, 2017 09:16
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I think calling the Majors casting inappropriate is extreme.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:IMO the action scenes in the anime were better done, particularly the chase with the guy on foot and the fight with him in the water amongst ratty old buildings. It was far more stylish in the animation. Yeah that scene didn't have the same kick at all in the live action version. Same with the spider tank scene.
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