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Momomo posted:The fact that this series keeps continuing feels like we ended up getting the Bad Ending in this world and now Yoko Taro continues to torment us. All three drakengard games are legitimately terrible and there's somehow three of them. Nier's okay so it getting a sequel at least makes SOME kind of sense.
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HenryEx posted:Terrible to PLAY, sure, but they are a wonder to experience. They're kind of funny but in a South Park way that doesn't really hold up. Speaking just about the actual Dakengard-named-Drakengards it's not like they're that well written or anything. I mean Drakengard was one of the first games I ever played so I have a nostalgia for it, but it's really not that great. e: I liked Nier at first but when I found out it was a Taro Yoko game I basically got to predict the rest of the plot so I'll give it a B-.  Oxxidation posted:I'll say right now that this is a dumb opinion to hold. Personally I think Bayonetta isn't that great and Bayonetta 2 is not that great but also more of the same. 
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VolticSurge posted:Well,as long as you admit that MGR is sicknasty (or at least has sicknasty boss fights),you can still be saved. If not...I don't know you. MGR is one of the best games ever and possibly our greatest achievement, as a species.
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HenryEx posted:Even Drakengard 1 does interesting things that aren't really found anywhere else. It's the most vicious pisstake of the "Dynasty Warriors" genre i've ever seen. It goes beyond even making you play the bad guy, you're playing more of a kind of violent force of nature. When that NPC begs you to save the village from attackers, the chapter load text makes it very clear that Caim's motivation to follow the request is not to save people, but to kill people. In my eyes, it kinda blows it's load early on it terms of what it has to show you and then you're just left with an unpleasent mess, with hours of more of basically the same. If you can manage to keep at it, it's probably just for "what over the top bad thing is going to happen next?" as opposed to any actual sense of investment in what happens. Compared to say, Postal, which is another game that sort of has you going "wow this is pretty messed up" but it at least has a ramping challenge and passable gameplay. There's stuff like the rhythem game and babies falling from the sky but at best I'd call that too little too late. Really what's GOOD about the writing? Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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fadam posted:Just beat the first ending of Nier. I'm sitting through the credits right now. The second playthrough is for sure worth it? How different is it? e: wrong game. Well you don't play as 2B which I would say is significant. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Space Hamlet posted:Spoilin' the wrong game there Oh, Nier as in Nier 1, right. Well the point DOES stand.
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psychoJ posted:Ending E question: Memory serving you can but (spoiler for after that) someone else has to delete their save to do it. Speaking of ending E, I think the biggest twist is that it's actually a fairly happy ending.
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dazat posted:People are freaking out and dogpiling this guy on Twitter because he brought Automata's metacritic score down from 90 is 89 with his (admittedly stupid) review. I miss the days we just had dudes ragequitting over the fishing mini-game. It was a more innocent time... For all the claims Taro Yoko is a sadist, he is equally a masochist.
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I mean if you're not hating it while you play it, you're not playing a Drakengard game right.
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ymgve posted:That final ending. I wasn't sure if they were actually gonna go through with it, but welp, my save gone. But I felt I kinda had to do it since random strangers "helped" me through the impossible credits sequence. Did you not play Nier Replicant/Gestalt?
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:See, I don't quite see it like that. Everything fundamental that made you you still exists. If we're talking a 1:1 copy, no degeneration or other weirdness (as seems to be the case with the YoRHa process)? The you that was just cloned has just as much right to consider themselves the real deal as the one that got shot in the head. I guess it's just a matter of perspective, really. How would you feel if you were a perfect copy of someone else, and reassured you were 'just as good' as the original? A copy is a copy. It can emulate the feelings and past experiences, but it is not the same thing. Cephas posted:I think people hate on 9S because they don't like seeing emotionally fragile boys. Like you see so much hate for Shinji Ikari too and it's just weird. Maybe it frustrates people to not see them "man up" and take control of the situation idk. Personally, I just have it as a principle to not like anyone who stars in a story written by Taro Yoko. It's a good policy. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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NieR Automoata is basically the Ship of Theseus in video game form.
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Augus posted:A2 needed more scenes though. A2 is great. Something about both Nier games is that the cast really deserves a happy ending more than Drakengard's, but I somehow feel less bad in the event they don't. When the ending was more or less happy for Automata my response was more "huh, a happy ending" then the satisfaction I expected. Maybe it's because things are more fundamentally bad in the Drakengard games.
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Vermain posted:What SOMA is getting at is that there isn't a functional difference between an "original" (mind A) and a "copy" (mind B). Both mind A and mind B are the "original," because a "person" at its barest level is merely a collection of data. If you can replicate that data perfectly, how can you tell who's the "real" one after the fork appears? I haven't played SOMA so I can't comment, but when you get that reductive simple logic states something can't be in two places at once. It can be as good as the original, but it is, by definition, not.
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Vermain posted:What functional difference is there between the "original" and the "copy"? For the most part, in most scenarios? I'd say there isn't a functional difference. However, they are still not the same thing. The copy is not the original.
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chiasaur11 posted:So, you believe essence precedes existence? Sartre is a dumb name anyways.
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:So then what makes an original superior to a copy? I think the problem here is that the word 'copy' itself carries with it a loaded definition of inferiority. It's not an original, it's a forgery, a fake, worthless. Even if you don't mean it, subconsciously, it's understood by us all. We've all got copies of the same movies, the same games and books and I'm guessing we're all pretty happy with our individual copies in and of themselves, right? Isn't it the content of those objects that matters? The memories we associate with them? The meaning we give it? I don't think I said the original is better; I said that it is unique. It is it's own entity. Vermain posted:As you yourself said, there isn't a functional difference. Therefore, why does the category of "original" matter? What makes it a meaningful distinction to have? It's more of a philosophical differentiation. There's a human drive to want the original, I guess. People pay more for the original of something than a copy even if they're identical all the time.
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