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dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

ewe2 posted:

They're not giving up, not these little black ducks. Thank god.

I assume bolt is just hoping Peta can help bring down Turnbull same as she helped Abbott out? I mean he must now that Abbott and Peta are as politically poisonous as each other.

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dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Frogmanv2 posted:

Why do you last names for males but first names for females?

Was two in the morning and could''t remember Credlins last name despite reading it not two minutes previous.

My Bad.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
With the Subs talk if any country did attack Australia the UK and USA would pretty much automatically offer assistance as well as fairly certainly France and Germany and that right there is four armies in the top sevenish strongest armies in the world backing Australia, as the Australia army would most certainly help them in the same situation. The current threat to Australia from a foreign army would probably be a percentage in the decimal range with a lot of zeros at the front of it.

Any significant threat to Australia would pretty much have to occur after a very server shifting in Geo-Poltics into something far less stable. Something that might actually pose that sort of threat would be food/water shortages brought on by climate change/pollution/other. If the other countries which we might expect to aid Australia in a military situation were dealing with their own poo poo then Australia might seem a bit better target, particular for a country that was desperate due to you know mass food/water riots and what not. So basically were buying a bunch of subs in case the world starts to go all mad max.


Periphery posted:

I have found a solution to the issue of buying expensive military equipment form other countries:

Abandon all our military capabilities except for the SAS (probably need to keep some guys with guns around and you may as well keep only the "best" ones) and replace it with an emergency response force that helps people instead of murdering them. Retrain and equip them to quickly respond and assist in the recovery/rebuilding of places effected by natural disasters and humanitarian crisis'.

Essentially, make a professional, fully funded and full time version of the SES that has expanded capabilities to not only help Australia, but also other countries.

From a selfish point of view, not only would they be able to actively help Australia in times of disaster but as an added bonus more of the training they receive will be relevant and useful to society after they leave the service. Plus they couldn't be worse at creating enemies and perpetuating terriorism than the current military.

Any extra funding from current levels can be spent on education, health and other good poo poo.

Generally I like this far better. Apparently Aircraft carriers can be pretty good in large emergency situations due to having a whole bunch of comes on them (good if your helping out in place who''s communication infrastructure just got hosed over. You can chuck a bunch of rescue/supply helicopters on their, and they often have some great water purifying systems on them (100,000-150,000 gallons a day for some). If we really must have some defensive navy kit, stuff that can help also help out in natural disasters and humanitarian crisis would seem far better as very likely that is all were ever going to use it for.

And in news utterly unrelated to aquatic threats, new season of Mad as hell starts May 11th!

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Negligent posted:

goddamn that is a terrible beard

If elected ALP budget will included a 100% in Bowens beard.

Election winning cut!

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Bowen: 'Spending should not be higher or lower then it needs to be.'

Impressive bit of woffle right there.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Oh yay someone turned off the burglar alarm and kicked out the homeless people on the ABC set.

But with all the ABC crew gone who's going to be operating the camera and sound?


Also Greens leader mentions renewable energies before anything else. Stop being such a cliched Di Natale!!


Edit: Now he's saying we can defend our country with tress and hugs. drat hippy!!!

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Anidav posted:

ABC has NO MENTION OF SLAVE LABOUR

LEIGH
YOU WERE MEANT TO FIGHT FOR THE PROLETARIAT :ussr:

She had two leaders of our corrupt government system right infrount of her and yet she put neither against the wall.

YOU HAVE NOT BEEN READING YOUR ABC SUPPLIED LITTLE RED BOOK CLOSELY ENOUGH LEIGH!


EDIT: And now that I think about it not once did she call upon the working class to rise up and over through the shackles of the captlist system. Leigh Sales is a terrible revolutionary. :(

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 11:54 on May 3, 2016

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
ABC: lets see what the general populous who aren't following this budget that carefully thinking about it, by asking two politicians!

Talking to marginal seat holding MP's isn't necessarily a bad idea, but that was a really stupid way of seguing to it.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Apparently there's another 1.9 Billion in cuts and around another 1.5 billion in spending that they're going to announce at a later date during the election.

So probably some sort of sweetener you would imagine if they're waiting till then.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Also I like how they are hiring 1000 new people for a taskforce to look into Multinationals offshoring after firing 4400 ATO staff over the last 19 months.

"Canberra times posted:

On Thursday, the Community and Public Sector Union told the hearing into corporate tax avoidance Australia's tax collection would be hurt by the workforce reduction – a contrary line to the ATO's official view.

CPSU member Cathy Pugh, who worked in the international branch in Sydney and specialised in base erosion and profit shifting, said managers had been taking on more complex jobs from officers.

"It's mostly experienced staff with broad and in-depth experience in applying the law, running audits, building networks, detecting tax avoidance, building relationships with taxpayers and tax advisors," Ms Pugh said.

"These skills are particularly important in dealing with international tax avoidance.

"These people were our go-to people – and they're gone. There's a limit to how long this can be sustained."

One step forward after four and a half back.

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 14:21 on May 3, 2016

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Shunkymonky posted:

I'll give some credit in that I did not expect their changes to superannuation to go as far as it did considering their base.

Limiting non-concessional contributions to a lifetime limit of $500K whilst it's currently $180K a year until you turn 75 is a pretty stark change. Especially since its effective from the budget announcement, so nothing we dodgy accountants can do about it. We told some clients to consider putting extra in before the budget, but I'm still shocked they went to this extreme.

Yeah some of the superannuation changes seemed to be just a bit of fiddling about but that part did actually seem pretty decent and good.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

El Scotch posted:

In the US former presidents have a secret service detail in retirement.

In Australia they look like their begging for a fare.

Only 'Looks like'? .....Abbott is pretty renowned for being completely garbage with his money.

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dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Solemn Sloth posted:

in order of importance:

step 1) don't vote liberals
step 2) don't vote lunatic minor right wingers
step 3) don't vote labor

Step 4) buy a democracy sausage.

Edit: That should probably be step 5. Step 4 should probably be something about actually voting for someone who isn't complete poo poo or the nearest you can find to it. That or drawing genitalia on your ballot. Possibly both!

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 18:17 on May 28, 2016

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