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Mofabio posted:Literal holocaust denial ITT, cool. You really comparing smallpox to typhus?
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You wanna go down that route how about we "Talk about the genocide perpetrated by the Indians on Europeans through syphilis?"
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May 7, 2016 03:53
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Mofabio posted:oh man, that's a new one. by all means. Typhus thrived in those camps due to poor nutrition, sanitation etc. Plenty of perfectly healthy Indians and Europeans had the flesh of their face fall off through small pox. Lord of Pie posted:We must salute the brave European explorers who traveled the world in search of interesting new forms of crotch rot Back in the day it was a far more lethal and all over main land europe.
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May 7, 2016 04:07
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It's not like Europeans went around sneezing.on the indians. 500 million people died in the 20th century from smallpox even with the help of germ theory and the fact the virus went virtually extinct in 1970. Most of Indians who died of the virus never saw a white person.
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May 7, 2016 04:29
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Mofabio posted:A turning point, in the anti-Indian propaganda and anti-idolatry campaign that accompanied the colonization process, was the decision by the Spanish Crown, the in 1550s, to introduce in the American colonies a far more severe form of exploitation. The decision was motivated by the crisis of the "plunder economy" that had been introduced after the Conquest... Until the 1550s, despite the massacres and the exploitation associated with the system of the encomienda, the Spaniards had not completely disrupted the subsistence economies which they had found in the areas they colonized. Instead, they had relied, for the wealth they accumulated, on the tribute systems put into place by the Aztecs and Incas... The tribute the Spaniards exacted was much higher than that the Aztecs and Incas had ever demanded... In Mexico, this turn occurred in 1562 when, by the initiative of the Provincial Diego de Landa, an anti-idolatry campaign was launched in the Yucatan peninsula, in the course of which more that 4,500 people were rounded up and brutally tortured under the charge of practicing human sacrifices (ed note: in the background of that woodcut, you can see this pictured). They were then subjected to a well-orchestrated public punishment which finished destroying their bodies and their morale (Clendinnen 1987:71-92). So cruel were the penalties inflicted (floggings so severe that they made the blood flow, years of enslavement in the mines) that many people died or remained unfit for work; others fled their homes or committed suicide, so that work came to an end and the regional economy was disrupted. However, the persecution that Landa mounted was the foundation of a new colonial economy, since it signaled to the local population that the Spaniards were there to stay and that the rule of the old gods was over. This is neither genocide nor in the good old United States. The correct way to call Americans genociders go look up Andrew Jackson or something. You are insane if you think smallpox killing the indians was genocide. Not to mention the Spaniards were pissed off that all the indians died because then they had to import their slaves.
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May 7, 2016 05:02
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No one is denying Americans committed genocide.
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May 7, 2016 05:13
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