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Not a Step posted:It really came down to the filthy Europeans living with their livestock and becoming unstoppable plague engines. tsa posted:The vast majority died off from disease, probably before their tribe even knew what a white person was. A Winner is Jew posted:not as low as their resistance to european diseases though Literal holocaust denial ITT, cool. You guys know that Nazi holocaust deniers use disease to dispute the 6 million figure, right? Typhus was horrific in the camps, and deaths by disease and starvation are counted in the 6 million.
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Despera posted:You wanna go down that route how about we "Talk about the genocide perpetrated by the Indians on Europeans through syphilis?" oh man, that's a new one. by all means.
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May 7, 2016 04:01
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Lord of Pie posted:We must salute the brave European explorers who traveled the world in search of interesting new forms of crotch rot  Amerigo Vespucci landing on the S. American coast, while "America" in the hammock lures him in. Carved 1589.
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May 7, 2016 04:18
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Despera posted:It's not like Europeans went around sneezing.on the indians. A turning point, in the anti-Indian propaganda and anti-idolatry campaign that accompanied the colonization process, was the decision by the Spanish Crown, the in 1550s, to introduce in the American colonies a far more severe form of exploitation. The decision was motivated by the crisis of the "plunder economy" that had been introduced after the Conquest... Until the 1550s, despite the massacres and the exploitation associated with the system of the encomienda, the Spaniards had not completely disrupted the subsistence economies which they had found in the areas they colonized. Instead, they had relied, for the wealth they accumulated, on the tribute systems put into place by the Aztecs and Incas... The tribute the Spaniards exacted was much higher than that the Aztecs and Incas had ever demanded... In Mexico, this turn occurred in 1562 when, by the initiative of the Provincial Diego de Landa, an anti-idolatry campaign was launched in the Yucatan peninsula, in the course of which more that 4,500 people were rounded up and brutally tortured under the charge of practicing human sacrifices (ed note: in the background of that woodcut, you can see this pictured). They were then subjected to a well-orchestrated public punishment which finished destroying their bodies and their morale (Clendinnen 1987:71-92). So cruel were the penalties inflicted (floggings so severe that they made the blood flow, years of enslavement in the mines) that many people died or remained unfit for work; others fled their homes or committed suicide, so that work came to an end and the regional economy was disrupted. However, the persecution that Landa mounted was the foundation of a new colonial economy, since it signaled to the local population that the Spaniards were there to stay and that the rule of the old gods was over.
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May 7, 2016 04:54
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Despera posted:This is neither genocide nor in the good old United States. The correct way to call Americans genociders go look up Andrew Jackson or something. You are insane if you think smallpox killing the indians was genocide. Not to mention the Spaniards were pissed off that all the indians died because then they had to import their slaves. It's all part of the same genocide. People count typhus' victims and the deliberately starved in the Nazi's 6 million, and as well, people should count smallpox's victims and those starved by the destroying of winter food stores as part of the even-more-massive American genocide. I mean, it's even more clear-cut in the American genocide case, because smallpox was used as biological warfare, whereas IG Farben scientists were at least experimenting at the time on typhus cures.
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