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I for one am looking forward to the imminent casting shitstorm over Danielle Moonstar and Roberto da Costa.
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BrianWilly posted:Actually Widow's the one who says the latter line. And it's a little dubious. The Hulk might not be that easy to control. But Banner would 900%, absolutely, no questions be on the side of the Accords. I read that line as more "You know he's still pissed at me, right?"
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May 7, 2016 22:36
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Sentinel Red posted:You don't have to look to The Winter Soldier to understand why Steve thinks the UN's proposition is a crock, just look at the Winter Soldier - a dude whose will, judgement and independence were ignored and taken out of the equation entirely. The Accords are but a milder version of the kind of poo poo that was inflicted on Bucky by Hydra. Screw that. I wouldn't go that far, but I do think Steve's perspective is more nuanced and understandable than people give it credit for being, and at least some of it is because people try to pigeonhole the MCU version of the character into a particular box. So far in the MCU, every major Captain America appearance has revolved around the fundamental failure of his immediate supervisors. It's a theme that goes so strongly through the films that it almost suggests collaboration. First, he's used as a promotional tool, and has to go AWOL to get a job done; second, he almost dies in a nuclear strike because of an inner circle of politicians, after discovering that the guys he's been working for are trying to develop a super-weapon from the same Nazi super-science that he almost died trying to stop; third, once he does join up with an actual accredited organization, he finds out about ten minutes later that it's secretly seething with Not Nazis Really. Naturally, when a gray-haired dude in a suit shows up at his door and says, "We're making you a U.N. group," his first immediate reaction is to tell the guy to cram it. However, by the time Bucky's in custody, Steve's showing signs that he can be talked down, particularly in that conversation with Natasha in the ops office. If Zemo hadn't staged that jailbreak, Steve might have peacefully signed the Accords, or at least entered into a negotiation process. It immediately becomes apparent, however, that something's going on, and Steve decides the best way to figure out what's happening is to go rogue and deal with it. That in turn makes him the first test case for the Accords, which he isn't inclined to like or trust anyway, and Tony is already hanging on by his fingernails. It's all perfectly in keeping with the character arc of MCU Cap, who is a very different character from the comics'. He doesn't really trust any authority other than his own, because it's been repeatedly proven to him that that authority is easily and usually subverted. Tony, conversely, is more than willing to hand off that authority because he's looking for somebody to take the weight of the world off his shoulders, because Tony is incredibly bad at coping with failure. He'll admit wrongdoing, he'll make grand gestures in the name of atonement, but he can't move on.
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May 8, 2016 03:18
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Rurea posted:It's like what Spiderman says: now that he has the power to save people, anytime he doesn't its his fault. That logic only carries forward if you're routinely walking around in Africa with a two-gallon drum of filtered water over your shoulder. It's as much about opportunity as it is access/capability.
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May 9, 2016 20:02
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Nodosaur posted:so everyone's wondering what Avengers 4 will be called, but I'm already looking forward to Avengers 5. Here are my thoughts: I'd expect them to do a riff on Bendis's New Avengers at this point, especially if it involves Wolverine. Maybe mix in the Young Avengers and/or the Champions for flavor.
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Apr 29, 2018 22:51
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You know, it just occurred to me, after the big cameo appearance in Infinity War: Does this mean that all the incidental soldiers who got disintegrated by the HYDRA weapons in The First Avenger were actually teleported to the soul stone's planet?
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Apr 29, 2018 22:54
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Fartbox posted:The first issue however is that he gets a magic glove that can fulfill any wish, ever, and he still does the same thing as before . The second issue is that in the movie he isn't portrayed as a 'mad titan' he is portrayed as a calm and calculating character who regrets that he has to kill to achieve his goals. Yet he kills half the universe because... what, he's too dumb? Because he doesn't have any imagination? Keep in mind that even before he had the glove, he was a dedicated psychopath who routinely tortured both his "daughters," slaughtered millions, and destroyed whole planets. Gamora was genuinely surprised to find out that he loved her, and then he threw her off a cliff anyway. The impression you're meant to come away with from all of that was that maybe he was a little bent when he started, since he proposed the "let's kill half our population" plan on Titan in the first place, but whatever happened to wreck Titan has made him maniacally focused on that as the solution to everyone's problems everywhere. When he's talking to Strange before the big fight scene, he still gives the impression that he doesn't get why anyone would object to the plan at all. So no, he doesn't have any real imagination on the subject. He's dangerously obsessed with what was, before then, an unattainable goal, and by the time he can accomplish it, he's sacrificed what little was left in the universe that gave his own life meaning and--perhaps most crucially--he's about ten seconds from Thor splitting him in half like a wishbone at Thanksgiving. Thanos isn't just "the Mad Titan" at that point; he's psychotic, obsessed, grieving, has lost just about all his followers, and has Stormbreaker instead of lungs. Of course he doesn't make a perfectly rational decision.
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May 7, 2018 17:58
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site posted:from the rapid escalation between the arenanet firing of jessica price to james gunn gettin canned, im guessing the extreme willingness of companies to capitulate to twitter nazis means were gonna see a lot of this soon Yeah, I think making this explicitly about Gunn himself is burying the lede. The timeline goes something like this. Gunn regularly gets into scraps on Twitter because he's die-hard anti-Trump, and had a particular exchange this week where, among other things, he called Ben Shapiro a shithead. Now, a few days later, noted right-wing Twitter lack-of-personalities Mike Cernovich and Jack Probosiec (I might be misspelling that name but I don't care) pop up, having gone through around ten years of tweets from Gunn, and have put together a crazy quilt of the worst ones that make Gunn sound like he thinks child abuse is hilarious. This is all stuff that we've seen discussed before, around the time Gunn got hired to do the first Guardians movie, because Gunn is a weird dude with a twisted sense of humor who learned how to make movies at Troma. (I've seen Tromeo and Juliet. That movie is hosed up.) Gunn has, of course, since apologized for being an edgelord in the late 2000s, but now that there's a manufactured controversy, Disney immediately cans him. This isn't about something Gunn did, or can be proved to have done, aside from telling lovely jokes to a very small audience that probably mostly knew him from a porn spoof he was directing at the time. It's manufactured, tip to tail, entirely by a politically-motivated flash mob, and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that some significant fraction of that mob consists of bots and/or throwaway accounts. It sends a message to all the worst people on the Internet that, if they can raise a big enough stink, and they can, and it's surprisingly easy, they can alter the pop-culture landscape as they see fit and can do so surprisingly quickly.
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Jul 20, 2018 23:09
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Endless Mike posted:For as much as Disney might want to maintain this perception, it's a really outdated view of the company. Remember this is a company that includes in its portfolio a cruise line, theme parks that cost more than $100 per person to get into, multiple sporting events, hotels, and so on. It's also owned Miramax for quite a long time, since right before Pulp Fiction came out. Technically, Mia Wallace is a Disney princess.
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X-O posted:Gunn got fired because a lot of things in culture and corporate culpability and image management have changed between the last time the stupid things he said got dredged up. This wouldn't have gotten fired 10 years ago. Or probably five. But now it does because that's the age we're in. People's stupid comments in the past bite them in rear end constantly. At this point if you have a Twitter over a year or two old you probably need to clean that poo poo up right now because someday something dumb you joked about completely devoid of context might cost you. Especially if you're a public figure. It's just common sense. Yeah, X-O, I think you're overlooking a lot here. You aren't even wrong, but this is purely about somebody who Gunn pissed off on Twitter deciding to do whatever he could to get Gunn fired. Whether or not the jokes were funny (they weren't) or indicative of his current character (they don't appear to be) or were transgressive enough to warrant near-immediate dismissal (they weren't, particularly considering other things in the company's history, such as Johnny Depp's domestic abuse charges) is a distant secondary consideration. Aphrodite posted:You better loving believed they've crawled Captain America's history trying to find a story. I can only assume Evans has made himself effectively untouchable. Every so often I see him land a whirling over-the-shoulder chaos dunk on some poor right-wing sap on Twitter and they just shut up and take it.
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