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John Zandig 107 75.35%
DJ Hyde 35 24.65%
Total: 142 votes
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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
John Zandig is the most successful promoter in the history of American independent wrestling.

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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I didn't see the top at first and was hoping he was going to promote a NYE event.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

flashy_mcflash posted:

I don't know if I've asked this before but why is AAW's poster design on such a higher level than any other indie and even WWE most of the time? Is it one person doing it?

The bottom one looks like absolute poo poo, terrible graphics quality.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
The book and a few interviews definitely made people look at Holly in a new light.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Jenkem Delivery posted:

APW is running a show at the Cow Palace on Saturday. Waltman is booked but who knows now with the drug charges. Main event is Cody Rhodes vs. Joey Ryan in a steel cage. They have Mundo vs. Cage vs. Cobb in a triple threat, a big 30 man rumble and Shotzi Blackheart vs Candice LeRae.

Should be fun, I'm probably springing the extra cash and going for 2nd - 10th row Tix. Front row is sold out.

Only front row is sold out and the show is on Saturday? That is... not good.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Jenkem Delivery posted:

Rows 2-10 are sold out now, but yeah it's way too big of a venue. Although they mostly run tattoo and marijuana expos there now so maybe the rental costs aren't very high?

Like the Alamo Dome it's cheap to rent.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
All the failed shooters are ending up in the hospital, Jesus.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Tournament of Survival was a problematic show with a must see main event.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

rovert posted:

SHINE moved dates due to their tournament clashing with WWE's https://twitter.com/WWNSHINE/status/877175885362851840

How many moves do you need to invent to enter?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Charles Gnarwin posted:

I doubt any match on the card will have NJPW implications, especially considering how badly ROH bungled the Kenny/Cody match and New Japan just basically ignored it.

They pretty clearly aren't ignoring it, they just haven't gotten around to it yet. They just main evented a show with Cody/Kota and Kenny/Hangman.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Colt is afraid of the guy who lost to Stokely Hathaway what a loser.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
It's going to be wild when Beyond debuts chairs.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

exploded mummy posted:

you still haven't been to the Melrose shows have you

I'm not going to LA for indie shows.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Joey just faced Walter on Sunday too.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

STAC Goat posted:

So does Chikara have a solid streaming service? Like is it worthwhile and practical to subscribe for a few months and binge the last few years because some of that sounds kind of fun and interesting.

Similarly, is anyone familiar with the CZW streaming service? I was binging some older CZW a year ago and more or less enjoying it so I've been thinking of doing the same binge subscription thing with them. But I got the impression the CZW service wasn't terrible well stocked or organized.

And are there any other companies who have services with banked years that are worth binging? I know NJPW but I like my english commentary. And ROH but it sounds like they don't have a lot of their stuff. WWN but it doesn't seem like they do much worth watching. There's the FiteApp but that seems like single purchases, not a monthly service fee thing. Anything else?

ROH has a lot of content on their service there's just very little pre 2010.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

STAC Goat posted:

Yeah, but don't most people dislike most of the stuff post 2010?

Relatively speaking but post 2010 quality ROH compares favorably to many other indies.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Big Dave posted:

super dragon riding nova pro's coattails i see

There's some pimps he can bring back too.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Basic Chunnel posted:

It's not really that surprising, Janela went on Twitter post-Trayvon Martin and said something to the effect that anybody who got shot by the cops had it coming.

Trayvon Martin wasn't shot by the cops.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

exploded mummy posted:

heres the current Americanrana 2018 card for Beyond




great match but goddamn Drew managed to get PCO vs Brian Cage

That's an incredible card.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

KungFu Grip posted:

didnt think we'd get a more awful nwa champion than aldis but here we are even if it is the nwa title. I bet josephus is happy

Flip is so much better than Aldis it isn't funny.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

KungFu Grip posted:

flip does literally nothing for me, he's not even that good of a highflier

He's one of the best heels on the indies when he embraces it, tremendous charisma and really good at adapting to the moment.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Your Parents posted:

cool, a career vs career match between two guys who cant draw on local indies.

Dickinson is in a super hot act in BEYOND. Hot Sauce does ok too.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Cory Lidle posted:

I hope Jervis can interview some of the folks that got hurt wrestling him because he valued doing drugs more than protecting them.

Jervis go on Street Fight.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Boco_T posted:

Gonna fly to Atlanta for a third time to see Rush, the biggest Mucha Lucha Atlanta match yet:
https://twitter.com/laparktapia/status/1022874805211553792

May possibly be the first meeting of the two after a hair vs. mask match, we don't know for sure yet.

Park is a unique case since he's an outsider but CMLL tries to book bald/unmasked dudes in the weeks after big apuesta matches because it does good business to see them unmasked or shaved.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Boco_T posted:

I don’t know about short on money, it’s more that Park is 52 and he heard about Wagner getting a quarter mil for his mask last year. Why not get that much when you don’t have that many of your best athletic years left.

Then again, people always say he’s very ugly under there so it won’t be a Daddy Wagner situation in that respect.

Park being ugly will only help him.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Grozz Nuy posted:

are we presuming park is losing? i guess that makes rush being willing to get his rear end beat a bunch during the build make more sense, but i thought the traditional draw of a mask/hair match is to watch the heel lose and get humiliated by the shave

There are reports that Park and CMLL have agreed on a price for his mask. My own assumption is Park is winning and they'll try to get another year or two out of it.

Rush has never lost his hair and has the most valuable hair in the business. Normally if I saw legendary mask vs hair I'd assume the hair is being cut. But in this case Park is getting up there, saw the price Wagner got and thinks now is the time to cash in.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Phenix Rising posted:

This match is not doing much to excite me about present-day CHIKARA.

Trashbag Abyss is my favorite wrestler on the planet and it is exciting to know there is a whole stable of them.

Match was so loving sloppy though but whatever people liked it. I'd have been happy for it not to be on the show and to get home half an hour earlier. In its place just give me a Trashbag Abyss promo.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Gage punched a chair that was being held by his opponent, you can't DQ Gage and it's still to DQ the opposing team since they were hurt by stupidly holding a chair during a wrestling match.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Cory Lidle posted:

100% wrong. Boomer is a literal day one rookie.

It felt like most of them were. So sloppy.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

SatoshiMiwa posted:

You have to know a large portion of the TV money is going to be spent on 3 year deals for new talent to run the indies out of high end talent. Deals that won't be renewed if the indies die

WWE isn't going to raise their salary structure they are just going to offer more people lovely deals. So they'll bring more people in but not everyone.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Jenkem Delivery posted:

I love wrestling

https://twitter.com/mongo_ebooks/status/1011451975848906752 Vote Mongo Underscore Ebooks as Best Booker.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I hope Tanahashi comes out to sign poo poo in Penn Station or something like he would in the lobby after ROH shows he'd do.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
A thread to go All In in https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3867558

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Big Dave posted:

speaking of which, i didn't think they could top tos3 but ngi show of the year

I refuse to believe they topped ToS and hate that I have no time to watch NGI for a week.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Lid posted:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/730313/wrestling-news-jimmy-havoc-progress-hello-wembley-paul-robinson-interview-hardcore

Jimmy Havoc did a promo/interview on PROGRESS doing Wembley Stadium, which is pretty huge, and made a comment sort of regarding the re-rise of deathmatches


He's right in that untrained part but the other problem was oversaturation, when hardcore is just every match everytime it loses any chance of being a thing. Compare with Gargano v Ciampa which are not the most extreme matches you'll ever seen but given the stakes and the feud it feels like a real blood feud even though they never gig - its a blood feud without blood and still feels brutal.

Gargano vs Ciampa feels more like a couple of goofs overacting and wondering how they are so violent.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Super No Vacancy posted:

progress not with wwn



Bad graphic design even for wrestling.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

EugeneJ posted:

Hammerstein not having a show Mania weekend is kind of sad

It's expensive as hell to run and the sightlines suck.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Westchester County Center is so far from everything especially for people who are staying in Jersey.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

exploded mummy posted:

it's the building where Monsoon threw Heenan out of the WWF


not much tbh you'd probably have to go further up the line to Fairfield or north to Danbury

Cosmos brain would be the casinos or Hartford region


eh it's pretty much a straight shot up 287 to the cross westchester parkway

closer than asbury park

Out of towners aren't going to have cars, that's an awful train ride, probably an hour more than Westchester. Both are dumb ideas for a WM weekend venue.

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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

abraham linksys posted:

huh

https://twitter.com/Fightclubpro/status/1046086428449558528?s=19

this the first time any international indie has run korakuen in recent memory, right? not counting something co promoted like fantasticamania or honor rising

also does FCP have wild-rear end amounts of money, or some connections with japanese indies to pull from, or what? maybe they found some error fare on some weird budget carrier to get half their roster over to japan or something

AAA ran it last year and completely bombed.

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