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New to the SFF fandom: looking for feedback as I downsize my existing system (components marked $0) and try to plan for future compatibility with upcoming Nvidia/AMD releases. Targeting 1440p/144hz gaming and daily driver tasks (browsing, streaming, etc). PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($0.00) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.95 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($249.99) Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($0.00) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB SC2 Video Card ($0.00) Case: NCASE M1 Mini ITX Tower Case ($210.00) Power Supply: Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($149.99) Case Fan: Corsair ML120 Pro 75 CFM 120 mm Fan ($27.99 @ Corsair) Case Fan: Corsair ML120 Pro 75 CFM 120 mm Fan ($27.99 @ Corsair) Case Fan: Noctua NF-A9 PWM chromax.Black.swap 46.44 CFM 92 mm Fan ($19.90) Case Fan: Noctua NF-A9 PWM chromax.Black.swap 46.44 CFM 92 mm Fan ($19.90) Total: $935.70 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-14 21:03 EDT-0400 How often does the Ncase M1 go into production? Trying to figure out if I should grab one now or sit tight til later in the year when there's more info on upcoming Nvidia/AMD components.
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A large preorder window just opened for the FormD T1. They've been doing weekly drops for the last month or so, but they routinely sell out in minutes or less. Obligatory Optimum Tech video for those unfamiliar it; the producer is one of the guys who developed the NCase M1. Stoked for my first SFF build and possibly my first custom loop 
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Aug 14, 2020 22:41
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That Asus B550-I only has 3 USB ports (enough for keyboard, mouse, headset/speakers) on the rear IO, but for $20-30 more you could get 7 USB ports on their Strix X570-I board; the B550-I board makes no sense to me.
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Oct 2, 2020 16:34
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Front panel USB-C support is like the one box that the Strix B550-I checks vs the X570-I, but I never use front panel USB so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Oct 2, 2020 18:13
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Similarly but much stupider, HardwareCanucks put a 3950X and a 3090 in a 7L Sentry 2.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jppzfO6I6M And they decided to cool the 3950X with an NH-L9A 
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Oct 3, 2020 21:37
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Looks like somebody was able to cleanly deshroud an MSI 3080 Ventus and put it in an M1, but they got kinda of lovely results. Also found what is allegedly a deshrouded 3080 TUF in an M1, but there's no data associated with it.
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Oct 5, 2020 18:13
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Butterfly Valley posted:advice for cooling in my nr200p build
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Found a deshrouded TUF 3080 in an M1; OP says that thermals didn't change much but noise levels were improved. Very interesting, planning on doing something like this.teagone posted:Would be cool if Fractal made a Meshify ITX case.
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ijyt posted:SFF people, how do you handle multiple fans on an ITX board? The X570-I from ASUS has 3 headers (CPU, Pump, Chassis). I'm gonna go google this but is there anything BIOS related that might affect the pump header like having it run at 100% RPM, or is it just labeling and they're all the same. My plan is...
CHA_FAN: Y-Splitter to bottom fans AIO_PUMP: NF-A9, possibly with LNA if it's too loud running at 100% I'm on BIOS v1407, there is no setting to run that AIO_PUMP header at anything but 100%. Also, there are no controls for the chipset fan if you care about that. BIOS v2606 lists "Improve Fan control function" as a feature, but when I lazily googled it last week I didn't see any mentions of getting to set a fan curve for the AIO_PUMP header or the chipset. e: can't recall if it's Total Amperage or Total Wattage at the header has to be greater than the sum of current/power for all the fans on that header denereal visease fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Oct 14, 2020 |
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Really digging the goon SFF build pics lately! ITX boards in mid/fullsize cases is cool aesthetic, especially when the CPU cooler is almost as large as the motherboard...  ITX cases in mid/fullsize cases are even cooler...  Pretty standard aircooled 3700X/1080TI system with two NF A-14s in the bottom until 3080's are available and Ryzen 5000 reviews come out...  Second build, first ITX build: probably seated and reseated the motherboard 5+ times to get cables managed as desired. Thermals were concerning at set up, I was seeing the X570 chipset and rear M.2 drive approach then pass 80C when gaming. I undervolted my GPU to 1936 MHz at 935 mV to bring temps come down a few degrees, but probably need to push that harder. Looking into replacing the thermal pad on the chipset but not thrilled about almost completely disassembling the system to do that. Has anyone ITT put a heatsink on the rear M.2 drive in an M1? If so, which heatsink and what thickness of thermal pad was used?
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Oct 22, 2020 19:01
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Really glad that I cancelled my T1 preorder and got an M1 instead tbh, especially after seeing power numbers for the RTX3000 series. The T1 is a very aesthetically pleasing case for sure and I really wanted to make the space grey case work for me. I couldn't come up with any air-cooling solutions that seemed appropriate for the magnitude of the hardware I wanted to put into it though 
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Optimum Tech tried to watercool a 5950X & a 3090 in the T1...
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CopperHound posted:How much power consumption does that build work out to and what would be a more reasonable target for that setup? It was still ~385W after GPU undervolting, all getting cooled by a slim 240 radiator with slim fans. I'm not super familiar with water cooling, but I think that radiator might have been decent for the CPU alone. Seemed like he had some weird BIOS/AGESA poo poo going with Cinebench though. Hardware Canucks put a 5900X and an RTX3080 on air in a 10L ATX case recently.
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Nov 12, 2020 03:19
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I understand that the M1 doesn't have a lot of room for cable management but that is nearly criminal... 24pin is the biggest pain the rear end and I still need to gently caress with it more to eliminate panel bulging. I used the PSU's included zip ties to make "anti-combs" to keep cables bundled together and more manageable. A lot of the excess cabling is hidden in front the GPU, fans, and front panel.
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ijyt posted:So after a bunch of horror stories about the Strix X570-I with impossible to remove NVMe screws and missing thermal pads, I went and stripped mine to check it, and it's all good. Loctite blue on screws where it should be, and thermal pad on the chipset. Really love how compact this board is and how its been put together.
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Yeah, it's a weird situation where that dude's youtube channel seems to exist solely to produce NR200 content. Glad that everybody is getting value from those  denereal visease posted:Depending on how much time you have, it looks like this dude has tested the NR200 pretty exhaustively. No idea who he is or why he's so horny for the NR200, but there ya go. denereal visease fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Nov 24, 2020 |
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Nov 24, 2020 18:18
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Cross-posting my 5800X temps from the AMD thread...denereal visease posted:I've done "an amount" of testing myself and I suspect there may be a sweet spot between 120 and 130W for PPT for balancing temperatures, performance, and average clock speed... denereal visease fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Dec 3, 2020 |
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Dec 3, 2020 17:52
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very clean 
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Dec 13, 2020 19:42
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IIRC the Corsair SF600 Gold is 125 U$D msrp and the SF600 Platinum is 145 U$D msrp. The extra $20 lands you a better efficiency rating and individually sleeved cables which is well worth the surcharge imho.
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Anyone else itt with the Strix X570-I try the v3001 BIOS yet?
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denereal visease posted:Anyone else itt with the Strix X570-I try the v3001 BIOS yet? e: looks like it removed the cap on the fan curve that forces 100% PWM signal above 86.5*C Head Bee Guy posted:Any thoughts on the Louqe Ghost S1? denereal visease fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Dec 17, 2020 |
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denereal visease posted:Anyone else itt with the Strix X570-I try the v3001 BIOS yet? denereal visease posted:This didn't solve my issues with random reboots
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PSA: M1 + SF750 + 3080 = will not close, might be more doable with an SF600 since it doesn't have daisy chain pcie power cables  Lucky gently caress problems... 180° adapters on order... Still working on tuning but the "new" build I started in July is done  FuzzySlippers posted:It idles around 50c and pretty quickly jumps to 70c+ while gaming.
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That's the coveted Tuf 3080 OC, for which I am learning there is currently no way to set custom fan curves for
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Arzachel posted:Tried https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases or Argus Monitor? The card is much, much quieter now that it's working correctly, so I'm less interested in setting a custom fan curve now  Warmachine posted:Y'know, seeing that I'm glad the FE had that dumb angled 12-pin power connector. jink posted:This is the first time I think of that dumbass proprietary cable and go "yeah that makes a lot of sense!" Coredump posted:At this rate computers will be gpus with a cpu, ram, mobo module you add to them.  Zero VGS posted:To be sure, there exists no CPU cooler at 37mm or shorter than can in any way compete with the Noctua L9I, correct?
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What style of case are you thinking?
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LODGE NORTH posted:Out of all of these, the CL530 and NR200P are my favorites, style-wise. I'm not necessarily bound to either one, but they are definitely my top choices if I had to pick. I'm sure other posters could come up with more suggestions if you had a better idea of what kind of case, how small, what parts, etc.
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SourKraut posted:Is anyone here running a SF750 with any of EVGA's 3080or 3090 cards that require the three 8-pin connections? I've been seen conflicting info about whether it's ok or not, with some sites saying it is, and others saying they don't recommend it.
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HWiNFO64 can give you "real time" info on how much wattage is being drawn by the CPU/GPU
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You'd probably be ok with a NH-U9S chromax; I put one on my partner's 3700X and it's doing fine. The NH-C14S is the biggest air cooler you can fit in the M1 afaik and that's sufficient for my 5800X; it's probably overkill for a 3600X but you could spin the CPU_FAN slower if sound is a concern. Try to look up some M1 builds using the GPU you're after to make sure you don't have clearance issues with the front I/O leads.
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obi_ant posted:Is there a steep increase in difficulty when building a SFFPC compared to a 'normal' sized one. Sphyre posted:impulse bought a set of cables from pslatecustoms  Another one because the lighting was good...  need more build pics itt denereal visease fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Feb 2, 2021 |
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The full list is here, but there are plenty of extra niceties: low-pro wifi antennas, spendy thermal pads, rear M.2 heatsink, etc. I replaced the chipset thermal pad on the X570, then went nuts and replaced both M.2 thermal pads as well (huge temp drops on both SSDs). Not everything on the list is a Hivemind Sweet Spot Cost Optimized Best-in-Slot choice if that matters to you (doesn't matter to me). The 120mm NF-F12 is under the heatsink exhausting air out of the case with the 2x NF-A12x15s; these are running off two daisy-chained y-splitters. The rear 92mm fan is an intake with a long stepdown period (25 sec); I'm getting better temps with intake vs exhaust. Let me know if you have any other questions. CPU averages just under 80*C and the GPU hangs out around mid-60s in extended Cyberpunk 2077 gameplay at 1440p Ultra+RT Psycho; FPS is mid 60s to low 70s on average. e: forgot these, you need 2 sets denereal visease fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Feb 9, 2021 |
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RE:budgets, I was patient enough to spread out my purchases over 4-6 months, upgrading incrementally, and got lucky to avoid scalpers/scarcity.GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Looks pretty sweet to me GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Did you notice any change in chipset temps? TheMadMilkman posted:Here's where I currently am: Fan config seems fine; I noticed that you listed an A9x14 but you can definitely fit the full size 25mm thick NF-A9 at the back of the case.
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Zero VGS posted:Introducing looooooong ITX: cr0y posted:New to the SFF scene but am looking to build a "console killer" gaming rig, its going to go in a media center hooked upto my TV so looking for something small/unassuming. I have to essentially build the system around the RTX 3080 that I managed to score, so with that being said what are some options for cases that will house these stupidly large video cards? (Ryzen build) cr0y posted:it's a PNY 3080, specs say it's 317mm long (and 60mm thick) .
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Sphyre posted:Here's my pslatecustoms before/after, featuring the most halfassed attempt to velcro tie an atx 24 pin cable you'll ever see: Very clean!
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I might do this on an x570 board destined for a streacom da2, a beautiful hotbox. That tool is useful thnx. I uh, have broken chipset fan cables before trying to remove them Warmachine posted:I don't know if this dumb project has warped my sense of affordable, but $130 for some of those pslate cables is refreshingly cheap? That said, I also recently sent plsate $toomuch for cables and eagerly await them lmbo; probably doing a full rebuild of my M1 because I want to change how I routed the CPU 8pin cable #justSFFstuff
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loving same
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Sphyre posted:
Cygni posted:Ali must be stopped. This is probably his best yet.
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sounds like you're not ~* tHe TaRgEt MaRkEt *~
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