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So uh, yeah. There are big spoilers there and to not infect people in the DC thread here is a thread where you can freak out about the spoilers. Do not post the actual leaked pictures though. Ignore the first page of chat based on two leaked pages of an 80 page book and just read this entire rundown of the actual book if interested: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/21/dc-universe-rebirth-1-full-spoilers-leak-online X-O fucked around with this message at 09:41 on May 21, 2016 |
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Dexie posted:Alright, let's...let's just stay calm for right now. They wouldn't ACTUALLY bring the Watchmen to mainline canon, right? Yes breathe easy and wait for context. The Wally thing is rad though, I'll wait and see about Watchmen. I knew the DC thread would turn into a nightmare if I didn't make this thread though.
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May 21, 2016 00:32
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Bleeding Cool is reporting that the comic states that Dr Manhattan is the one responsible for the New 52.
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May 21, 2016 01:08
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DrProsek posted:My Joker cap is 0 so unless all these Jokers are dying right off the bat, this drastically increases the possibility I'll have to drop books due to too much Joker. Love that Joker!
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May 21, 2016 01:25
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I think King is a better writer than Snyder easily and I'm not sure I can fairly compare him to Morrison since I'm not a Morrison fan at all.
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May 21, 2016 01:49
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I don't know if it's a good idea if true, but I have to give them credit for just loving going for something they know is going to be super controversial if it is. I mean that's not just an idea you toss out there and say "Let's see if this works" this is a pretty major deal. It's taking a huge chance.
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May 21, 2016 01:59
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Geoff Johns is going to pull the same thing in a few years saying the DCEU was created by Snyder's Dr. Manhattan and that's why it is the way it is.
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May 21, 2016 02:06
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Rhyno posted:I am on my phone and relying on this thread to supply me with spoilers! There, they ran the two leaked pictures there. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/05/20/warning-dc-universe-rebirth-1-spoilers-leak-on-reddit-and-you-wont-believe-dc-comics-has-gone-there/
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May 21, 2016 02:21
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I think where I've landed on this now is that while I don't think it's necessarily a good idea I am genuinely interested in what they're going to do with it and how far they're going to with it. I'm not going to dismiss the idea out of hand. To me the three Jokers thing sounds like a much worse idea because I can't think of a way in which it work at all.
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May 21, 2016 02:42
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Yeah saying Watchmen is responsible for how modern day DC operates is not too crazy. Having it literally be the case in the books is definitely some metacommentary. Dexie posted:Well... Holy poo poo, what is this from?
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May 21, 2016 04:29
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Newsarama apparently just said gently caress it, secret's out, let's dump what we have on it. Here's some more pages. http://www.newsarama.com/29407-preview-dc-universe-rebirth-1-with-spoilers.html
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May 21, 2016 04:47
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Rhyno posted:Remember when Alan Moore called out Geoff Johns for building his career entirely on top of Moore's works? Now he's literally doing that.
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May 21, 2016 04:56
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As much as I'm genuinely interested in the idea and plan to see where it leads I find it endlessly amusing that Johns is dropping this huge bombshell and then dropping out of the comic game immediately after.
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May 21, 2016 04:57
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No you're mistaken. Geoff Johns wasn't given the New 52 to create. That was Dr. Manhattan.
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May 21, 2016 05:15
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Guys can we talk about the real problem here. What are we going to do with 12 Super-people and 3 Jokers. That's easily 10 and 2 too many.
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May 21, 2016 05:21
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Toxxupation posted:Wait what. 12 may be a bit hyperbolic but it's quite a few. Four Score posted:Superman, Superboy (Jon Kent), Superboy (Kon-El), Superwoman, Supergirl, Super-Man, Krypto, Power Girl (who is back on Earth 2?) Lex Luthor off the top of my head. Also maybe Bizzaro counts? There's also a Red Electric Superwoman and another Superwoman of some kind on the cover of Superwoman. X-O fucked around with this message at 05:35 on May 21, 2016 |
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May 21, 2016 05:33
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I bet there's three Jokers simply because they're revealing the identity of one of them.
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May 21, 2016 05:36
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Newsarama has literally just hit "gently caress it" and is letting it all go I guess.
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May 21, 2016 05:59
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Ok so according that Newsarama spoiler post Dr. Manhattan has set up on Mars in the DCU now and looks to be the new big villain of the DCU going forward. And he created the N52 purposefully to weaken the DCU? What? This is weird. Also Darkseid is a baby now?
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May 21, 2016 06:08
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IGN has a full beat by beat rundown of the book. Seems Wally West and Wally West are cousins. And that the implication is that Pre-N52 and N52 are the same universe but it was heavily altered as a way to weaken it for attack and it is slowly reverting back in some ways.
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May 21, 2016 06:38
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Here's the IGN rundown of the whole book. http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/21/dc-universe-rebirth-1-full-spoilers-leak-online
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May 21, 2016 06:53
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TFRazorsaw posted:I realize the scarab being technological was itself a retcon but Are you asking if Geoff Johns gives a poo poo about an old thing? Really?
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May 21, 2016 07:50
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I think after reading the various rundowns and articles the thing that surprises me most out of this is how much of a complete indictment of the New 52 this seems to be. I mean the book is basically telling you "The last five years of stories were bad" and that's either a big realization on their part or them just coming clean after knowing the whole time. Either way it feels they realize what the problem is and are at least attempting to address it. Also I don't think Johns is trying to say he's innocent in all this. I think he realizes that he was doing wrong as well and this is him trying to course correct. Just because you've screwed up doesn't mean you can't try to fix it even if you fail spectacularly.
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May 21, 2016 23:10
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As much as I rag on Johns, and I don't think he's a very good writer now, I love his Flash run. That's why it was so disheartening to me that he was the one that basically destroyed the character that he and Waid did such good work on. If that was Johns we had been seeing for the last 10 years I think I'd have a very different opinion of him right now.
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May 21, 2016 23:32
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That's kind of why I see him writing Wally as the focal point of all this being his "Yeah, I know I hosed up" moment.
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May 21, 2016 23:36
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BrianWilly posted:...Except that he's not writing any more books after this...so, evidently we'll have to see if whoever DC picks to helm the big Dr. Manhattan punchathon will be able to deliver on what Johns is selling here. Well, that article above has Johns saying that the confrontation with Manhattan will not be a punching thing. But then again he won't be writing it so who knows.
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May 21, 2016 23:50
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https://twitter.com/robertliefeld/status/734044325206597637 https://twitter.com/robertliefeld/status/734044764987740162 Come on Rob, New Coke is a little harsh huh? It wasn't that bad.
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May 22, 2016 00:13
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Edge & Christian posted:Remembering the New 52 Fallen: I couldn't even tell you what half of these books were about. The only one there I'd even be interested in is Captain Atom, I always liked him but I remember not liking the writer on the book when it launched so I never read it. I forgot who it was though. Has DC completely abandoned the idea of Hawk people? I can't remember the last time I heard about them being in a comic.
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May 23, 2016 01:11
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Is there a full shot of that art anywhere?
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May 23, 2016 03:57
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Rhyno posted:The Robin next to Nightwing does not appear to be Damian. That's Tim, we've already seen his costume on the cover of Detective Comics. He's still Red Robin, but he's wearing the classic Tim Drake Robin costume.
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May 23, 2016 04:00
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Mr. Oz. Oh whoever could that be?
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May 23, 2016 05:22
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Soonmot posted:Ffffffffffffffffggggggffffffffff Google tells me this is a character that Johns himself inserted into the Superman story during his run well over a year ago. I wonder if it's a happy accident that it lines up to work with the twist or if this is something he actually planned on doing a long time ago. Apparently the only appearances of the character never really show him well and just show him monitoring Clark on giant screens.
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May 23, 2016 06:14
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Four Score posted:I would pay 100 bux to change the name of BSS to gently caress SCOTT LOBDELL (FSL for short) even if it was just a week You only say that because you think it's not possible for it to happen. When it's totally possible.
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May 23, 2016 08:39
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Here's the book Wally's going to be in. Written by Abnett so probably will be no good.
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May 24, 2016 01:17
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The solicit implies that all the Titans remember the pre-N52 universe as well. quote:Friends. Teammates. Titans. Donna Troy, Arsenal, Garth, Lilith and Nightwing were all that and more until a mysterious force erased their memories, forcing them to forget what they could accomplish together. Reunited with their memories returned, the Titans must destroy the interdimensional demon that broke them apart and threatens reality itself.
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May 24, 2016 01:25
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Here's Bleeding Cool trying to piece together some stuff that might tie into this big twist. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/05/24/what-else-has-geoff-johns-been-hiding-under-our-noses-the-whole-time-dc-universe-rebirth-1-spoilers/
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May 24, 2016 21:20
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Because Pandora is terrible and doing away with her completely is preferable to trying to redeem the character by giving her even more importance.
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May 24, 2016 22:03
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TwoPair posted:I don't know why Rich keeps saying Mr. Oz/Ozymandias(?) "trained" Nu52 Superman. I just went back and read Johns' Superman run. Mr. Oz doesn't do poo poo except talk cryptically to screens and send Superman a black notebook at the end. I mean, it's implied that he orchestrated the events of that run, but I'd hardly call that "training", unless Lex Luthor's been training Superman since the 30s. Well in the panel posted right there Oz says that he taught Superman.
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May 24, 2016 23:30
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Noted New 52 Hater Geoff Johns will be on Late Night tonight to presumably ruin Rebirth for everyone just hours before it's released.
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Firestorm & Martian Manhunter are so forgettable they get completely obscured by text.
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