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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

sweet geek swag posted:

A more accurate read is that section 31 is probably just 10-20 people who have wormed their way into critical but not necessarily high ranking positions throughout Starfleet.
Gonna turn out they all have these weird spikes sticking out of their necks.

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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Eighties ZomCom posted:

Holo-Brahms would've thrown herself at Riker if it was his simulation, and would've self destructed if it was Barclays.
I wonder how far the holodeck AI goes to accomodate your personality and flatter you. I always figure, like JOI in Blade Runner 2049, it's got to be hardwired to upsell you and your merits. Riker probably can't even play the trombone, the jazz club is just the 24rd century's version of Guitar Hero.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Imagine being a daycare teacher on your first day on the Enterprise, just back from the briefing where they told you what red alert means and you figure, okay, pretty intense, but surely it's one of those things you need to know on a ship like this but no one anticipates an actual emergency

and it just keeps going off

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

in his quarters and at Ten-Forward.
or are they

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

sweet geek swag posted:

The borg were custom designed to be defeated by a civilization that has +10 to mad science as an attribute.
I want to see the Pakled meet the Borg.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

WilWheaton posted:

seems better than picard
If they'd had Roddenberry have his way without any sort of editorial control...

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

a Star Trek TNG porn parody where the battle and saucer section gently caress

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Commence separation maneuver. Commence connecting maneuver. Commence separation maneuver. Commence connecting maneuver. Commence separation maneuver. Commence connecting maneuver, deeper.

Captain, if we used the sex drive to slightly reposition ourselves, we could achieve a more than 37% increase in separation and reconnection speed. - Make it so.

Commander Riker, I want you to execute the maneuver manually.









oh yeah baby keep going don't worry I've had my Jefferies tubes tied

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

you mean Doctor Pudenda

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

How do you come up with and shoot an episode like Yesterday's Enterprise and not have Worf appear at the end as the Klingon captain, that kind of twist should have been TV writing 101 even in the 90s.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Imagine living next to Worf

like you're that daycare teacher fresh from the red alert briefing and you're told, oh yeah your quarters are next to the chief of security's. Oh good, you think, he's probably pretty straight laced but bound to be a professional, maybe I'll get to know him. And I mean you'd be right in a way but

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Drink-Mix Man posted:

Actors hate that sort of stuff, it sucks all the energy out of their performances when their physicality is limited for long stretches at a time.
oh is that why we got Aerobics Troi & Crusher?

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Tribbles

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Powered Descent posted:

If memory serves, they one showed someone walking into or out of it once, in seven years: Number One walking out onto the bridge, presumably after taking a Number Two.
adjusting his pants, the rarely seen Reverse Picard Maneuver

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Danaru posted:

We look for things that make us go
Worf: I know of a juice, but they hardly seem worthy of it.

Communist Walrus posted:

Giving up on makeup and saying "ah gently caress it, they're still aliens" is a rich Trek tradition. See also Troi, Guinan, Malcolm McDowell in Generations, the immortal muck farmers in Insurrection, and a bunch more that I'm probably forgetting. Like they don't even give any of them a wacky hairstyle.
There's a stretch of 3-4 episodes almost back to back mid-season 3 where it's all perfectly human aliens and for some reason they're also all about revolution in some way, and the revolutionaries are always decked out in budget Mad Max gear with 80s hair.

On the one hand it was pretty clever to make the Pakled all fat and jolly looking and it would have been neat if they'd similarly made some budget alien civilizations just by casting actors who are really tall or short or bald have some other common external characteristic. On the other that kind of approach needs a very sensitive touch or you get Ligonians.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Facebook Aunt posted:

A problem for dealing with holo Doctors who are unfit for purpose is what do you do with them? You can't just discharge them to find their own way because they need a specialized environment with holo-emitters everywhere. (Assuming they didn't have the ability to just replicate portable emitters for all.) They aren't programed to enjoy just sitting around doing nothing, they need purpose.
You put them in the Matrix, same as Moriarty. Next ethical dilemma, please.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Frog Act posted:

i enjoy in-universe explanations but for the TOS pilot it's really just: they had no idea what they were doing yet
I'm making my way through TNG for the first time since it aired originally and as I'm sure you're aware that notion carries on through a good deal of it.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

And also as head of security the whole process is handled by Worf

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Mulaney Power Move posted:

You know what? Why does everyone get to sit except that position?
That's why it was such a big deal when Worf broke his spine: couldn't have manned the tactical station anymore. Cause future society might not care if you're bald or blind but Starfleet bridge architects sure as hell care that you're not in a wheelchair.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

alpaca diseases posted:

(Transmits the goatman to enemy viewscreen)
Under most circumstances, this would be unconscionable.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Temba, his anus wide

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

The Defector is very good.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Neelix isn't a hard character to fix (aside from the whole Kes matter :barf:), the trick is to frame his happy-go-luck disposition as covering for a whole lot of depression and bad memories that he'd rather forget and let the mask slip once in a while to remind the audience.
Sounds like he'd be right at home in Picard.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Lister posted:

The people in charge believe that a story beginning and ending in a single episode is less likely to get watches on streaming platforms compared to stories with a mystery or hook that resolves little by little throughout the season.
I only wish the hooks would resolve, instead they only ever set up the cliffhanger for the next season and the whole rotten business goes on and on forever until the executives pull the plug when the show drops below some arbitrary return of investment threshold and then it ends on a cliffhanger as well. Say what you want about Voyager but those motherfuckers at least got home.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Get Taika Waititi to direct and I'm sold. Make a sister show about young Dr. Lazarus and his half-sister who get along just great.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Tighclops posted:

My prediction about Lower Decks is that it will more closely resemble other things that are popular than Star Trek as per the last two CBS projects
Something like Bojack Horseman I reckon (of which I know nothing but it seems the kind of thing Trek would go for in this context).

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I do and they would have made it either a one-off themed planet that clashed with Federation values for an episode, or the Ferengi homeworld.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Makes me wonder if Phil Farrand watches Picard and writes about it. Probably still in shock from the swearing, if so.

e: or frantically rewriting his TNG books because Picard added new elements to The Canon

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Arcsquad12 posted:

Well, I just watched The Offspring. That made me hate the Picard show a whole lot more and now I am sad.
Lal may be inexperienced in human matters but god dang if she doesn't know immediately what Riker's deal is.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Oh my god... I asked for a Marenghi-type mystery with an opponent capable of defeating Data.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Allegiance was an interesting one to watch against the background of the current "how much does the crew learn" question.

Like, if you're Picard, do you eventually tell everyone who was in Ten Forward that it was an impostor, or do you swallow your pride and let them believe that sometimes the Captain holds a singalong session?

e: and hypothetically if you ever get made into a puppet of Starfleet's greatest enemy and used to murder hundreds of your peers, are you ever tempted to reuse the impostor excuse?

My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jun 7, 2020

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

You start out like "I worked so hard to get assigned to the Enterprise, it's everyone's dream to work under Captain Picard, I'm so glad it worked out" and three weeks later you're holed up in a Jefferies tube with an illegal subspace transmitter frantically broadcasting PLEASE GET ME THE HELL OFF THIS SHIP I'LL TELL YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW STARFLEET DAYCARES ARE RUN on Romulan hailing frequencies

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

I remember reading somewhere that Patrick Stewart would drive the production staff crazy by saying "hey, this seems like a great time to separate the saucer. shouldn't we separate here, guys?" during shoots. Or maybe it was notes he'd send the writers after he read the script, I don't remember.
On a similar note, did anyone ever point out during shoots how the holodeck would solve all the problems involved in taking people from pre-warp civilizations and/or the past aboard?

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I wonder what kind of racist caricature the Ferengi was in the original rejected pulp adventure script that eventually became Captain's Holiday.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Prism Mirror Lens posted:

Does Picard have a “falls in love with something clearly not real” moment? Can’t remember
We've talked about Captain's Holiday and I'm still not convinced Risa isn't just an elaborate holodeck facility, I was genuinely expecting that to be an act 3 twist.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Gutcruncher posted:

Wasn’t there an episode where Picard and Riker were fighting over the same holo-lady or was that just one of my sexy dreams.
11001001, kind of? She's programmed to keep their attention so as soon as Picard walks in on them both she goes "well look at you" and Riker's like "hey"

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Arcsquad12 posted:

I wonder how much of that episode had to be rewritten because Stewart was stamping his feet that he wanted to be Indiana Jones for a change.
Oh man I thought this was a funny quip but I looked it up and it's quite literally how the episode took shape. I bet he must have told them it couldn't be a holodeck deal but had to be a real thing that happens to Picard.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

It's been actual decades since I've read Phil Farrand's pedantic books but I distincly remember him extrapolating that Riker's love interest must have a penis and going on about how he didn't have him down as someone interested in, I believe the phrase was "flat-chested boys".

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I actually lied, I'm re-reading his takes on each episode as I make my way through the show, out of curiosity, and maybe to reconnect with my teenage self I guess?

let me tell you he has very strong opinions on Who Watches The Watchers and also The Final Frontier

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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Riker you have no business getting huffy about Barclay's holodeck scenarios, he never got the Enterprise jacked

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