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Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
OK I am going to watch Voyager

everyone knows it's worse than DS9 but is it better or worse than TNG

I have a gut feeling it's gonna be worse



poo poo there's 7 seasons of this

Monkey Fracas fucked around with this message at 18:20 on May 23, 2016

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Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
the presence of Furry Foot Fellow makes me feel like it's gonna be worse than TNG

I will find out if you're lying to me OP so just come clean right now

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
first ep Voyager impressions:

-they begin by reminding you a superior show, DS9, exists
-the Paris character is a walking repository of bad one-liners thought up by drunk writers at 3:00 AM who are also bad at writing and I hope the character dies in the first season or something
-Neelix actually fairly unobjectionable so far
-I find Janeway to be kinda bland and uninteresting so far- what is this character supposed to be?
-I already like Holo-Doctor
-I like that the tribal-looking dudes wearing rags with dirt and poo poo caked in their hair also have bigass spaceships

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
In the like third episode the Alien of the Week steals Neelix's lungs lol

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I think Voyager is a silly show that I will mostly just enjoy having on while I do something else in the house or listen to on long drives like it's a radio drama or something

I feel like it will also be the worst Star Trek show I have watched overall

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

shadow puppet of a posted:

So you haven't watched Enterprise then?

It's next after I burn through TOS at one point or another

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

The General posted:

Come on. I'll start too. Who's with me?

I'm watching it, but not like actually watching it

It's background noise and I feel like that's all it deserves


I wonder if this is like the other Star Trek shows where they take a season or two to really hit their stride

Monkey Fracas fucked around with this message at 15:03 on May 25, 2016

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Star Trek Voyager hits its limping, pained stride in the very first episode


"UUrrgghh why did you creattee meeeee" says Star Trek Voyager

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
The one way Voyager could potentially redeem itself is by being ridiculous and corny enough to make me at least laugh at it

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
oh my god the episode where in their Lust For Coffee they accidentally bust open an enormous intergalactic organism's skin and then decide they have to go back in in there and fix it is ridiculous but somehow boring at the same time

Neelix the waaaaacky furry guy remarks how stupid it is at multiple points in the episode and I'm like "yeah that's right Comedy Relief Character this is dumb as hell"

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Oh so we can go home but we'll be 20 years in the past?

gently caress yeah let's get outta this craphole and ditch this weird Space Hobbit

Ohhhhh noooooo we can't, y'see time problems and blah blah blah blah


This is like the third episode that deals with time shenanigans and the show's writers don't seem to be able to really handle it

I mean tough thing to write but maybe save it for the barnburner season finale instead of leading with it in the first season

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Ahhh they couldn't even make it through the first season without doing a holodeck episode

Not that I'm exactly complaining- it's a Doctor - focused ep and corny nonsense is entertaining to me anyway



Man Janeway is still just not coming together as a character

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I think my favorite character is Tuvok

just completely nonplussed and unimpressed by all the stupid bullshit going on in Voyager


he's kind of an audience standin in that way I guess

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
how long are the episodes going to keep randomly starting with Janeway's British holodeck novel

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Who is supreme goony weirdo geordi or barclay

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Upon reflection Geordi is obviously the worst, yeah

Worse than Barclay who's just kinda nervous and insecure and misses work because he's playing holo-waifu-dating sims

Worse than Worf with his klingon weeaboo space bushido

Worse than Data who is just a robot with a touch of the 'tism

Worse than Wesley who at least has the courtesy to gently caress off like halfway through the series

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Oh yeah the psychic alien that incapacitated the entire crew with visions out of their brains? Yeah gently caress you if you think we're explaining that one was it even reeaaallll man?

There seem to be a lot of episodes they just don't know how to end

Like unless they're setting a lot of stuff up for later episodes or something

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
So for real in 7 seasons how many good episodes did Voyager have

When do these happen

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Y'know before I started watching Voyager I thought I'd not like Neelix because WHOOAOAAAA WAAACKY COMIC RELIEF but it turns out I don't like him because he's in a relationship with a 2-year-old being that looks like a teenager and it's real creepy doubly so because he looks like a gross space hobbit

I kinda hope Kes dies soon or something because it's real weird

WTF Voyager why did you choose to do this

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I just made it to the episode where she almost cooks Tuvok alive with her brain powers

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

treiz01 posted:

Ugh how are you guys pushing through this awful show? I am so goddamned lucky that Netflix Canada doesn't have it up, otherwise I'd probably follow along. I am unwilling to download 60gb+ of :filez: just to watch Voyager.

I'm watching it most of the time while I'm doing something else like preparing food or cleaning or playing Picross 3D or something and occasionally looking at it

most star trek shows would allllmost work as an audio drama with like no changes

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I'm probably going to skip a lot of Voyager eventually

when does the show hit its horrible debilitated shambling stride again, when all the Borg stuff starts happening?

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

shadow puppet of a posted:

AHahahah. This is genuinely funny that you think it doesn't collapse into crawling and then lying in a reeking mound.

Like I'm disappointed that it isn't worse actually if that makes sense

it's just kinda... there


heeeyyy folks time to check in on your pals on the starship Voyager

in this episode the gang gets... *yawwn* stuck inside some kinda... space... organism and can't just shoot their way out because of Starfleet Protocol or something so they play around with the *insert 15 straight minutes of :techno: here* until they find a solution that somehow changes nothing and works... for everyone

I am OK with this conclusion says Janeway as she files away her logs for this week's nonserialized syndication-friendly adventure in a beige folder in a beige holocabinet by the old holowatercooler

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Worf is pretty much an alien punching bag or comic relief (intentional and non-intentional) on TNG

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YaTlkmjy-Y&t=41s

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
When I first started watching DS9 I was like "Oh great O'Brien's here" but I warmed up to the character pretty fast

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Pulaski was great

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

JediTalentAgent posted:

Of if you want to be inhumane, route intruders through to the holodeck and trap them in the hell that is an endless Voyager episodes.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Also lmao just watched the episode where Paris goes to Warp 10 and can see everything that is or ever will be and this causes him to evolve into a weird fish frog salamander thing and then he kidnaps Janeway and they both turn into weird fish frogs and have fish frog offspring together and at the end of the episode they go "huh that was weird eh?" and turn them back into humans in approximately 2 seconds (I think they even do it during a commercial break; can't be sure as obviously I'm Netflixing this) and the episode just ends

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I gotta say when I thought "dire consequences of going to Warp 10 a theoretically infinite speed" I was not thinking hyper-evolved salamanders so uh like good on Voyager for subverting my expectations there I guess

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
And if they were able to cure them of their Future-Salamanderism so easily why didn't they explore Warp 10 a little more

y'know give it a shot it worked once at least

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
ya gotta have a furry guy chock full of seemingly useless anecdotes; that's the lynchpin of every major scientific breakthrough


Or Whoopi Goldberg in a silly hat, that works too

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
if you separate her from her silly hat she loses her powers, just like Samson and his hair

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Watched the episode where Tuvok mind melds with a murderer and goes kinda crazy

I actually kinda liked it

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
In the ep where Tuvok goes murderey he creates a holodeck simulation of Neelix being extremely annoying and he cannot stop himself from brutally killing him lol


hmmm what can I use to see if I can handle being about in the general population

what is the most annoying thing I can think of

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I just can't believe how much Voyager there is holy hell

24 eps a season × 7 seasons × 50 min an ep= 140 hours of Voyager

But by God I will get through it

Voyager is now the background noise to my life when I am home; I pay attention whenever something remotely interesting happens

Like the Q episode where one of them wants to kill himself and the Q Continum is an old gas station in New Mexico, that was kinda neat

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
in this episode Neelix hits a man with a wrench and throws him into the warp plasma conduit thingy or whatever it is

Neelix getting better and better; is pretty much the best thing on the show

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Man I kinda forgot they were even doing a NuTrek show

hope it's good but outlook is poor

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Gammatron 64 posted:

Worf is probably the best, most comedic character in the entire franchise precisely because he's so humorless and takes himself way too goddamn seriously.

Like earlier on it seems like the writers don't "get" this but later on it's definitely played for laughs sometimes and it's great either way

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Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Fister Roboto posted:

Close, that's what's known as a "personal oomox aid".

You can find that model and many like it at bad-nagus.com

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