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Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

schmitty9800 posted:

all the illegal guns flow in from Mike Pences Indiana

Says who

Gun control in the city makes little difference when you can drive 20 minutes and buy them

Furthermore, if you make guns really hard to get, I'd wager you'd be seeing crates of fully automatic weapons making their way into the city

Gun control, morality, racial factors... these are all moot points when it comes to drug trafficking.

As long as there are millions and billions to make illegally the violence won't end. Unless the gangs solidify into larger groups and divide up territory in a truce.

But the last time the gangs stabilized the police chopped all the heads off and it degenerated into block by block fighting

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Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Weekends are getting worse,

52 shot: Pace of gun violence in Chicago remains high over another weekend

More than 50 people were shot over another violent weekend in Chicago, a level of violence that has marked many of the summer weekends this year and has pushed the total number of people shot in the city to more than 2,600. The number of people shot during all of last year was 2,988. Between Friday evening and early Monday morning, at least 52 were shot and nine of them were killed, according to police. The weekend before, 49 people were shot, nine of them fatally. And the weekend before that, 52 people were shot, seven of them fatally. The month of July saw 65 fatal shootings, the most for a July in the city since 2006. Last Monday nine people were shot to death, the deadliest day in Chicago since 2003. The deadliest period over this past weekend was between Saturday afternoon and early Sunday when five people were killed and at least 19 others were wounded.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-weekend-shootings-20160815-story.html

Here is something from a related story,

40 Of Weekend's Shooting Victims Had Been Arrested 672 Times, Top Cop Says

Of the 52 people shot between Friday morning and Sunday night, police said, 40 had prior contact with police. Together, they had 672 arrests on their records. Johnson singled out Anthony Nelson, who was shot to death in Park Manor Sunday morning, saying he had been arrested 13 times. In March 2015, Nelson was sentenced to six months of probation after being charged with unlawful use of a weapon, police said.

"These gun offenders don't care. They could care less if it's an 80-year-old grandmother or a 5-year-old child out there," Johnson said. And that's our fault. Because we have constantly shown that we are not going to hold them accountable.

"CPD is arresting them. We need our legislative and judicial partners to help hold these individuals accountable," he added. "Kids getting shot out there is just stupid."

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160815/bronzeville/40-of-weekends-shooting-victims-had-been-arrested-672-times-top-cop-says

Mr. McGibblets
Sep 17, 2015

by Deplorable exmarx

Jastiger posted:

Just visited Chicago for 3 days.

3rd best MIdwestern city (The non shooty poor parts)

Des Moines is 1, Minneapolis/St. Paul 2, Chicago 3.

I should write a review for GBS.

You put this in reverse order just to be edgy....admit it.

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
I'm going to Chicago next month with my girlfriend and I'm looking for an Airbnb to rent for a few days before her corporate hotel room is open.

I know nothing about Chicago. Where can I stay that's cool and also which parts of the city are the horrible death zones?

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


TsarZiedonis posted:

I'm going to Chicago next month with my girlfriend and I'm looking for an Airbnb to rent for a few days before her corporate hotel room is open.

I know nothing about Chicago. Where can I stay that's cool and also which parts of the city are the horrible death zones?

Parts of the south and west side are scary areas, but most of the rest of the city is perfectly fine. And even then, 90% of the people getting shot in Chicago, or any US city, are people who are involved in drugs, gangs, and other sketchy poo poo. You could move into the worst ghetto in pretty much any city, and if you're a white yuppie fart-tester who minds your own business, you're probably at worst gonna get some mean looks/comments, or get your car broken into, or maybe get robbed. Half the time people will think you're a cop or there to buy drugs.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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TsarZiedonis posted:

I'm going to Chicago next month with my girlfriend and I'm looking for an Airbnb to rent for a few days before her corporate hotel room is open.

I know nothing about Chicago. Where can I stay that's cool and also which parts of the city are the horrible death zones?

Ukrainian Village, Bucktown, Logan Square on Milwaukee, Noble Square. Any of those will be cheap and are good neighborhoods that will be pretty cheap to stay in. Not to mention they're all packed with restaurants and bars. Lincoln Park, Gold Coast, Boys Town, and Andersonville are gonna be more expensive but are also safe and have a ton of poo poo to do in the neighborhoods. Basicallly avoid the southside, Humboldt Park (nowhere will say Humnboldt, so just avoid anything between Western and Cicero and North and Chicago). That should keep you in the clear.

Solice Kirsk fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Aug 17, 2016

Neutrino
Mar 8, 2006

Fallen Rib
I've never heard of anyone getting shot or murdered in the outer harbor of Chicago. Safest place in the city, IMHO.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

TsarZiedonis posted:

I'm going to Chicago next month with my girlfriend and I'm looking for an Airbnb to rent for a few days before her corporate hotel room is open.

I know nothing about Chicago. Where can I stay that's cool and also which parts of the city are the horrible death zones?

What are you trying to do when visiting

Solice is right on, except Wicker Park is probably the best place to stay

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Gold Coast is great. You can go to a check cashing store and in two blocks be at a Bentley dealership. Or if you only walk another two blocks at nice little restaurant and mini park area where you can watch wealthy older men woo women younger than their grandchildren.

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
Mostly I think we would spend most of that time having sex and then walking out of the room to get food and booze, so I was hoping to stay in a nice, livable neighborhood without too much of the tourist stuff.

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Sep 7, 2014

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TsarZiedonis posted:

Mostly I think we would spend most of that time having sex and then walking out of the room to get food and booze, so I was hoping to stay in a nice, livable neighborhood without too much of the tourist stuff.

Bucktown has almost no tourist stuff, but is within walking distance of Wicker Park and its various stores/restaurants

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
Thanks, guys! Now my problem is that Airbnb rates in Chicago are stupidly high, after fees, deposits and a substantial state tax. Hotel rooms seem similarly expensive... I didn't know that Chicago was such a pricey town!

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Sep 7, 2014

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TsarZiedonis posted:

I didn't know that Chicago was such a pricey town!

Enjoy the 10.25% sales tax

e: Chicago is a financial battleground

Cephalectomy
Jun 8, 2007
Chicagos lovely violence has spread a lot. I live down by Galesburg and with the recent uptick in chicago transplants there has been a massive uptick in violent crime and murders. Galesburg was never a great place, but it has gotten exponentially shittier in the past couple years. They constantly have to patrol the railroad station with dogs and geared up cops ready to rumble.

Mr Hands Colon
May 7, 2009

requiescant in pace.

Cephalectomy posted:

Chicagos lovely violence has spread a lot. I live down by Galesburg and with the recent uptick in chicago transplants there has been a massive uptick in violent crime and murders. Galesburg was never a great place, but it has gotten exponentially shittier in the past couple years. They constantly have to patrol the railroad station with dogs and geared up cops ready to rumble.

Galesburg wasn't that bad when I went to Knox back in the late 90s but recent alums have painted a completely different picture of that place.

Cephalectomy
Jun 8, 2007

Mr Hands Colon posted:

Galesburg wasn't that bad when I went to Knox back in the late 90s but recent alums have painted a completely different picture of that place.

It got kind of crappy in the early 00's but in the last 5 years it has turned really loving ghetto. Theres so many meth heads and gang bangers around town now that even Lake Storey has been having murders and robberies going on and most of the buildings around town are starting to crumble and fall over. The mall has like 2 stores in it, and its so worthless the owners just sold it for 300,000. Most of the big name retail stores have moved to the outskirts of town right off the insterstate exits away from residential areas.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Cephalectomy posted:

Chicagos lovely violence has spread a lot. I live down by Galesburg and with the recent uptick in chicago transplants there has been a massive uptick in violent crime and murders. Galesburg was never a great place, but it has gotten exponentially shittier in the past couple years. They constantly have to patrol the railroad station with dogs and geared up cops ready to rumble.

Iowa is seeing the same thing. Jastiger can attest to the imported chi town crime.

schmitty9800
Feb 10, 2003


the police http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/29/us/where-50000-guns-in-chicago-came-from.html

i mean it's not like it's IN alone but out of state guns are over half the source

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

Gun control, morality, racial factors... these are all moot points when it comes to drug trafficking.

well i mean, don't expect anything really progressive

schmitty9800
Feb 10, 2003

Barudak posted:

Gold Coast is great. You can go to a check cashing store and in two blocks be at a Bentley dealership. Or if you only walk another two blocks at nice little restaurant and mini park area where you can watch wealthy older men woo women younger than their grandchildren.

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Barudak
May 7, 2007

All gelato sucks, so they're correct I guess?

Also its located at the exact spot where extremely horny old men form a Viagra singularity.

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Autopsy: Paul O'Neal fatally shot by police in back

Paul O'Neal, the black teen fatally shot last month by Chicago police in a controversial incident captured in part on video, sustained a single gunshot wound to the right side of his back, the Cook County medical examiner's office determined in an autopsy made public Wednesday.

Toxicological testing found no drugs in O'Neal's system, according to the autopsy report.

The medical examiner's report repeated claims that an officer believed O'Neal may have fired shots during the chase.

The officer, "believing the shots being fired we're coming from O'Neal fired his Glock 9 mm handgun five times in an attempt to stop the threat," striking O'Neal, the report said.

Authorities have said that O'Neal was unarmed.

Acting with unusual swiftness a little more than a week after the shooting, city officials released nine video clips from police dashboard and body cameras that showed apparent procedural errors by three officers who opened fire at O'Neal, 18, as he fled July 28 in a reportedly stolen Jaguar and then on foot. Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson moved quickly to strip the three of their powers, citing potential policy violations.

The Independent Police Review Authority declined to give the officers' names in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by the Tribune, releasing a document last week with the officers' names blacked out. The agency cited, among other parts of state records law, a clause that allows an agency to withhold information if disclosure would "endanger the life or physical safety of law enforcement personnel or any other person."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-paul-oneal-autopsy-20160817-story.html

Videos capture dramatic police shootout with carjacking suspect

For the second time in less than two weeks, the city moved quickly Wednesday to release video footage of a police-involved shooting — this time of officers opening fire on a carjacking suspect after he shot into a police cruiser, police said.

Unlike the videos released Aug. 5 of the fatal shooting of an unarmed 18-year-old suspect that highlighted potential training deficiencies, the footage of the shooting Tuesday night in the Roseland neighborhood spotlighted the dangers police face, Superintendent Eddie Johnson told reporters Wednesday at police headquarters.

"These police officers face this kind of thing every single day," Johnson said. "Law enforcement all over the country right now is being scrutinized for everything that they do. But yet, these officers didn't go away from this. They ran to it."

Audio and video from dashboard cameras captured the dramatic pursuit Tuesday night of the vehicle that police said had been stolen earlier in the day. The chase escalated after the suspect extended an arm out the driver's window. Shots could then be heard, and a flash of light appeared.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-officer-shot-video-met-20160817-story.html

Lime Tonics fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Aug 18, 2016

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Barudak posted:

All gelato sucks, so they're correct I guess?

lol someone's never been to Italy

Neutrino
Mar 8, 2006

Fallen Rib

Moridin920 posted:

lol someone's never been to Italy

Eataly is in Chicago on Ohio Street

Bouillon Rube
Aug 6, 2009


Just spent a week in Chicago, what the gently caress is wrong with the Uber drivers there? They all got lost/distracted really easilly and didn't seem to know where anything was in their city

I've used Uber extensively in several other cities and it's never a problem anywhere else

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Cops in Chicago are bad shots.

Chicago police shootings: data reveals 92 deaths and 2,623 bullets fired

There were 435 officer-involved shootings in city from 2010 through 2015

Findings show about four out of every five people shot were black males

After threatening to sue the city’s police department, the Chicago Tribune has obtained official data tracking every time an officer has opened fire in the city over the past six years. The vast majority of those shot, the newspaper found, were black men or boys. According to the data, there were 435 police shootings in Chicago from 2010 through 2015, in which officers killed 92 people and wounded 170. In all, officers fired 2,623 bullets.

“While a few of those incidents captured widespread attention,” the paper wrote, “they occurred with such brutal regularity – and with scant information provided by police – that most have escaped public scrutiny.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/27/chicago-police-shootings-deaths-tracking-data

More of the same,

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/4-dead-16-wounded-in-chicago-weekend-shootings/

Labor day weekend is soon, stay safe.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

police are the only ones with enough training to competently handle a firearm

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Blue Train posted:

police are the only ones with enough training to competently handle a firearm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxWWJaTEdD0

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Lime Tonics posted:

Cops in Chicago are bad shots.

Chicago police shootings: data reveals 92 deaths and 2,623 bullets fired

There were 435 officer-involved shootings in city from 2010 through 2015

Findings show about four out of every five people shot were black males

After threatening to sue the city’s police department, the Chicago Tribune has obtained official data tracking every time an officer has opened fire in the city over the past six years. The vast majority of those shot, the newspaper found, were black men or boys. According to the data, there were 435 police shootings in Chicago from 2010 through 2015, in which officers killed 92 people and wounded 170. In all, officers fired 2,623 bullets.

“While a few of those incidents captured widespread attention,” the paper wrote, “they occurred with such brutal regularity – and with scant information provided by police – that most have escaped public scrutiny.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/27/chicago-police-shootings-deaths-tracking-data

More of the same,

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/4-dead-16-wounded-in-chicago-weekend-shootings/

Labor day weekend is soon, stay safe.

Well who's committing all the crime?!

Ferdinand Bardamu
Apr 30, 2013
all the violence and 50% rent increase in my neighborhood = all worth it to not live in the suburbs/watch the cubby wubbies at wrigley/eat ethiopian food twice per year.

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Dec 12, 2003

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WaryWarren posted:

all the violence and 50% rent increase in my neighborhood = all worth it to not live in the suburbs/watch the cubby wubbies at wrigley/eat ethiopian food twice per year.

Awesome. Everyone is very proud of you.

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Sep 7, 2014

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WaryWarren posted:

all the violence and 50% rent increase in my neighborhood = all worth it to not live in the suburbs/watch the cubby wubbies at wrigley/eat ethiopian food twice per year.

god bless the billy goat curse

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Police: 6 Killed, 31 Wounded In Labor Day Weekend Shootings

Six people were killed and at least 31 others have been wounded in shootings across the city over Labor Day weekend, according to Chicago Police.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/09/05/police-6-killed-31-wounded-in-labor-day-weekend-shootings/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-violence-labor-day-monday-20160905-story.html

'Shooting All Over The City': Man, Pregnant Woman Shot on Chicago's South Side

Two people—including a pregnant woman—were shot in Chicago’s Back of the Yards neighborhood, police confirmed Monday afternoon.

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Wow I suddenly care less about cops murdering citizens for some reason.

Bubble Bobby
Jan 28, 2005

The Sphinxster posted:

Wow I suddenly care less about cops murdering citizens for some reason.

The thread is about shooting violence in chicago. Are you contractually obligated to race bait in every thread you post in?

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Bug Bill Murray posted:

The thread is about shooting violence in chicago. Are you contractually obligated to race bait in every thread you post in?

Darth123123 posted:

Well who's committing all the crime?!

roymorrison
Jul 26, 2005

Lime Tonics posted:

The update is worse,

""Watching that video, I feel like that was a tear right down the middle of the relationship between the community and police," Brown said. "I saw an officer stomp a lifeless body in the back with his foot, while other officers stood over his body and screamed at him to put his hands behind his back. You could tell, watching these videos, that the narrative to cover this up had already begun before anything happened. You could hear officers telling other officers to cut off their body cameras."

Partial video in link,

http://abc7chicago.com/news/paul-oneal-chicago-police-shooting-video-released/1458110/

edit : jesus,

"It's unclear as to whether or not he was the actual shooter, but you are going to hear one of the police officers say, 'Now I'm going to get a 30-day suspension,'" said Michael Oppenheimer, the O'Neal family's attorney.

lmao after watching this i'll put my bottom dollar on at least half of all officer involved shootings being friendly fire straight up those guys are aiming directly at each other on multiple occasions and just loving shooting. like lmao the dude is shooting at the car and shooting while the car is heading directly at another cop car. literally they are shooting at each other in the entire video lmaooooo

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Lime Tonics posted:

Police: 6 Killed, 31 Wounded In Labor Day Weekend Shootings

Six people were killed and at least 31 others have been wounded in shootings across the city over Labor Day weekend, according to Chicago Police.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/09/05/police-6-killed-31-wounded-in-labor-day-weekend-shootings/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-violence-labor-day-monday-20160905-story.html

'Shooting All Over The City': Man, Pregnant Woman Shot on Chicago's South Side

Two people—including a pregnant woman—were shot in Chicago’s Back of the Yards neighborhood, police confirmed Monday afternoon.

Honestly I thought it would be worse since it was so nice out. This week is speed to be hot so I'm sure we'll hit double digits before Saturday.

Ferdinand Bardamu
Apr 30, 2013
I'm scared... thinking of Jastiger's spare bedroom in DMX.

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
Welp, I'm going there on the 21st for a week, wish me luck, goons!

Also gently caress Illinois tax on hotels, Jesus. It's cheaper to rent mansion in DC than it is to rent a room in Chicago.

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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Be sure to hit up Kumas Corner while you're here!

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