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Minto Took posted:A bit of old news, but Purdue AD Morgan Burke finally has been freed of giving a poo poo about football: http://www.hammerandrails.com/2016/8/31/12727582/goodbye-morgan-burke Wow, this... quote:“Football is a $5 million opportunity,” Burke said. “We will get it. It’s a matter of how quickly we can get the fans back. The fans are there. We’ve disappointed them for three years. It’s on us to shut up and produce.” quote:He sees the ceiling at $5 million more. That’s it. Nevermind that said additional $5 million, if it dropped into the bank out of the sky tomorrow, would still have Purdue dead last in the Big Ten in football profit (Rutgers, in 13th, made $6.8 million in 2014-15 WITHOUT the benefit of a full big Ten media rights share). Is amazing. They made 1.5 million on football last year. How does someone this incompetent keep that job for 23 years? Like, I don't really expect Purdue to be a national power or anything but that's like losing money running a casino.
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go3 posted:wont firing Les cost them a fortune Yeah, but they have a fortune to spend (or could beg it from boosters) if they should decide to do that. I don't think it happens now if it didn't happen last year for the record.
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C. Everett Koop posted:He's On Fire! is now Miles, Malzahn, Jones, Mason, Stoops, and Sumlin, Sumlin gets a boost from that win even if they almost blew it, because of dumb preseason rankings.
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Thoguh posted:Has any other school gone half a century with only 2 coaches? Penn State maybe? How long was the guy there before Paterno? e: Yeah, Rip Engle was there for 16 years pre-Paterno. Florida State has a chance if Jimbo's there for another 10 years. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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Sep 6, 2016 21:04
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Yeah he could, but he is 64 and if he gets tired of recruiting he has no reason to stick around. Of course I think he's a weird special kind of vampire who lives on the blood of 5* recruits so I doubt this happens anytime soon.
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Sep 20, 2016 01:55
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Roasted Donut posted:I'll take Les Miles right now, just no cam cameron Some coaches just can't cut bait with assistants and I think Les is one of those. It's why Bill Snyder originally retired/was gently pushed away, and will probably start happening again if he lasts long enough. So if you do somehow hire him with the stipulation of no Cameron things might be good for a few years, but god help you when the good assistants start getting hired away as head coaches.
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Sep 26, 2016 05:05
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General Dog posted:Nobody gets fired after the bowl game Yessss...he would possibly get fired before the bowl game in this scenario.
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Sep 27, 2016 14:13
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General Dog posted:Please don't post my fanfic unattributed. I don't see anything in there about fracking or apologizing for rape.
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Oct 5, 2016 17:36
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Thermos H Christ posted:Look Charlie Strong didn't know OK all he knew was he had a lot of young men who needed to pull their pants up and knock it off with all that hippin and hoppin who among us would not have done the same Oh I heard this on the radio this morning and meant to post about it but forgot. Gary Barnett is not a Charlie Strong fan. Stripping out just his quotes: Gary Barnett posted:"Well, it’s like a big soap opera down there," Barnett said. "And no, I don’t think he survives this... It’s just one bandaid after another and he doesn’t cure anything, doesn’t solve anything, just creates another crisis." That last bit sounds kinda like BS, especially since the only thing Strong has undoubtedly done right is recruiting, but it was not the blah blah take I expected from a former head coach. Even if said former coach is a real loving jackass. e: Podcast if anyone wants to listen to it, Texas part starts around 9 minutes. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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Oct 7, 2016 06:45
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whiteyfats posted:Some SEC incest would be funny, but there's no school looking to hire Les, sadly. I mean this time last year we would have said the same thing about Muschamp. Jesus Christ how did someone hire Will Muschamp?
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Oct 9, 2016 18:45
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Real Name Grover posted:Here's the names Tom Dienhart spitballed in a column he likely had in the hopper for a few weeks I'm more interested in Sonny Dykes, like, is he assuming Dykes will be fired or does he think Purdue can poach a head coach from a P5 school?
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Oct 16, 2016 20:47
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Sash! posted:Have they ever really had a name? All I remember is that time Kyle Orton fumbled so badly that it destroyed an entire program and that Drew Brees might have been quarterback there at some point. Anything before that is mysterious. Their thing is the Cradle of Quarterbacks. No really. To be fair they have produced three NFL hall of famers. Well 3 whenever Brees gets in.
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Oct 18, 2016 05:24
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Yeah it's not even legal at the high school level anymore, there are (or used to be) a few A11 specific leagues out there.
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Oct 20, 2016 18:24
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Mike_V posted:How long does a new coordinator hire get if they turn a top defense into a bottom 10 defense? Well you see you just can't keep the same system that sent like 25 people to the NFL, gotta control those gaps. He probably gets a pass for at least 2 years because of the system change unless Odom's job is in trouble somehow, realistically.
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Oct 23, 2016 00:57
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DJExile posted:There's some talk going around that Fresno State is looking to bring Jeff Tedford back into the game. I think he's up in the CFL somewhere right now. Was it Tedford who had some sort of really bad health problems recently?
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Oct 24, 2016 14:53
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Thermos H Christ posted:Bobby Petrino Aside from the other reasons you might not want him doesn't Petrino have a gently caress off huge buyout? Like one that would even make Texas blanch? e: After looking it up it's a 10 million buyout plus paying him enough to make it worth his while to move (he's making 4.35 mill/year). I can't see anyone wanting him enough to do that unless he goes on a Saban-like run over the next few years. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Oct 25, 2016 13:53
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DrunkPanda posted:What I don't understand is how the hell Houston keeps getting top flight coaches, one after another? Art Briles, Kevin Sumlin, Tom Herman all in a row? Even blue chip programs don't have that kind coaching talent following each other Briles and Sumlin were guessing right on guys. Briles was a high school coach who had one year as a RB coach at Texas Tech before Houston hired him. Sumlin had bounced around college ball for 20 years as a position coach and eventually Co-OC/WR coach for a couple of years at OU. Herman is different, been an OC for 10 years steadily moving up to slightly better programs (Rice>Iowa State is arguable I guess) before going to Ohio State. After his first year there everyone expected him to take about 100 different jobs but he was super particular about what situation he wanted to end up in. For whatever reason he liked Houston. Also Tony Levine was in there in the middle, so it isn't like everything Houston touches turns to gold.
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Oct 26, 2016 05:58
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LeeMajors posted:and he's never shown himself to be a recruiter. Gruden would almost surely be a great recruiter if he wanted to put the work in. But all he cares about is sitting around and watching tape for 8 hours a day so...yeah he probably wouldn't do that. And yeah, his offense is not something that seems like it would work well in college. Not that it matters because he's making so much money now to work one game a week and get to do stuff he really seems to enjoy, he's not leaving that job even if someone does want to try to outbid ESPN.
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Oct 27, 2016 23:54
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LeeMajors posted:I'm not sure why everyone is so sure he would be a phenomenal recruiter besides being telegenic and being young (which isn't as true anymore). He's excitable and bubbly and as you know if you watch MNF can find something complimentary to say about even the most trash players, his personality seems like it'd be a good fit. But I just can't imagine he'd be willing to put up with constant road trips and checking in on people instead of doing what he actually loves doing. On the bright side this might be one of the last times we talk about him, Cowher's name finally stopped coming up for every job under the sun, it's got to happen with Gruden eventually. On the subject of ex-NFL coach pipe dreams, I still want Herm Edwards to take the SDSU job or a program along those lines.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:55
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ChinaBob posted:Yet your "pipe dream" is Ole' Saint Nick. Interesting. You're being honest about this huh? 5 national championships, yearly expectations (and reality) of being in play to win another one, not good enough for a Texas pipe dream. Better go after John Gruden.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:30
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I thought you were doubling down on this:ChinaBob posted:Right, understood. But if you're going to have a "pipe dream" candidate at least make it something worth dreaming about and not Miles or Saban: Cause I mean....Saban is like the dreamiest pipe dream who has ever coached in college.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:44
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kayakyakr posted:I mean, the only coaches in the nation who are pretty much guaranteed to get you titles would be Saban and Meyer. And I'd imagine Ohio State or Bama would do whatever it took to keep them, even if it is some huge amount of cash. So if you take those two off the table who would you go after? Dabo? Jimbo maybe? Try to steal Petersen from Washington?
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Nov 6, 2016 21:36
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Other than Herman who meets the criteria of a) wouldn't consider Oregon a step down even for crazy bucks but b) you could plausibly pay that much without getting involuntarily committed? I was under the impression given that number that they're going to try to poach someone from a good G5 school.
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Nov 6, 2016 22:39
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Wanvig posted:Regarding Herman, Houston's not good anymore. poo poo I'm an idiot, I meant it sounds like they're going to try to poach someone from a good P5 school.
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Nov 6, 2016 23:48
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Roasted Donut posted:It is a lot to swallow to have to aspire to Vanderbilt's level of success This is a better burn than I expected, Vandy finished better than Tennessee every year Franklin was there.
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LeeMajors posted:That's the rumor, but while Jimbo has done well with FSU's advantages I couldn't really see him recruiting quite so well in the PNW. And for 10m they'd probably want an Urban/Saban kind of guy. Not even sure anyone else would be worth that much--or even close. No one else would be worth that much or even close, but it doesn't mean they wouldn't do it anyway for the next tier of guys which is where I'd put Jimbo. Petersen seems like the best fairly established coach for Oregon to throw money at based on success and location, but if they're really actually thinking about throwing that much money around I bet they call everyone from Dabo to Stoops to feel them out. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Tyrannosaurus posted:$125,000 / month to do nothing for over half a decade is the epitome of "amateur athletics." Who was the basketball coach (Georgia I think?) who had some absolutely insane Bobby Bonilla type contract? And how did that end up, or are they actually still paying him?
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Nov 15, 2016 22:44
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General Dog posted:Purdue plays in the Big Ten and gets the corresponding money that comes along with that. Part of the issue with Purdue is they haven't been spending that money on sports. Which in a perfect world would probably be what everyone does, blah blah. The new AD might be changing that now, but the history there makes any 'Big 10 $$$' appeal questionable from a candidate's perspective.
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Nov 18, 2016 22:15
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What was Les' offense at OkSt like? I think Gundy was his OC, but Les doesn't seem like the air raid type. It wasn't full out air raid but Rashaun Woods was a first round draft pick that people were surprised busted and Josh Fields got a look. Tatum Bell put up a couple of thousand yard years on the ground. They were definitely at least good at offense, which is not what LSU has been recently.
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Nov 19, 2016 00:45
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Mike_V posted:Who are the good Defensive Coordinators that will be available this offseason? Just think of the world we'd be in if Odom got along with Kuligowski. Then cry. A lot.
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Nov 20, 2016 02:00
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:So let's see Big XII openings: Just gonna guess this every year until it happens I take it? K State apparently just got a new school president that Snyder absolutely loves and helped shame out of retirement. I doubt it'll be this year barring health issues or something.
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Nov 20, 2016 18:20
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whiteyfats posted:Arkansas usually does pretty good, considering they play in the SEC West, and usually manage to steal one or two wins from the big boys every year. I can't remember if they ever beat Alabama, though. Probably doesn't matter, not many teams do. Looked it up out of curiosity, in the SEC West under Bielema they've beaten Ole Miss 3 times, LSU twice, Mississippi State and Auburn once. There's also some wins over SEC East teams in there, but for the west specifically.
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Nov 21, 2016 06:16
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Pakled posted:Has a coach ever been fired after a bowl game for on-the-field reasons? I assume some outgoing coaches have coached the bowl game after it being made public by the school they were moving on, maybe some older guys who they were just letting go to one last bowl? I don't think there's any real ethical problems (not that anyone pays attention to those anyway) with starting the search or even hiring your guy to take over after the bowl as long as it's all above board. As far as a situation where the school keeps saying "he's our guy" but the Bowl performance is the dealbreaker I don't know.
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Nov 21, 2016 23:28
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Thermos H Christ posted:I'm starting to panic now. Our AD is a fan/booster with no relevant experience who couldn't successfully hire away Tulsa's non-playcalling OC to take over playcalling duties at Texas for a million loving dollars a year, and in fact got turned down before the University President got on a plane and personally went to the guy's house to salvage the deal. This seems like a function of being Texas and everyone believing Strong was as dead man walking coming into the year barring some great season. That's a particularly hard sell to anyone who is comfortable in their current job and thinks they can hold out for a better/safer deal. Funny how it went down, Texas's offense has largely been fine this year. e: Oops I'd forgotten that the president thing actually worked and they ended up getting Gilbert.
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DrunkPanda posted:We just built the best facilities in the country Um...I'm going to need some proof here. Have you seen the poo poo that Alabama and Oregon do?
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DuckHuntDog posted:I get that this is the narrative and there are always sources talking about unnamed boosters, but I'm not all that convinced Texas is particularly worse than any other large schools. Was it because of Patterson's firing and Perrin not really being a strong voice at the top? That power vacuum is definitely why this whole thing is being botched right now, but I'm not convinced it has much to do with booster meddling as much as really poor communication and control in the athletic department and president's offices since it is such a bureaucratic mess right now. Even the shakeup at top happened because of state politics in the case of Fenves replacing Powers, and near universal disdain for Steve Patterson with the AD shakeup. Agreed that the program will not die a horrendous death or anything like that, like 3 bad years is about the absolute worst thing that can happen because of money/recruiting area/willingness to go absolutely crazy about this type of thing. You yourself said that Strong is the worst coach in school history but there's no question there's a fuckload of talent on that team. But I do think Texas is uniquely bad. Maybe not because of boosters exactly, but goddamn is it always something with Texas. I don't really remember what happened in the coaching search after Mackovic was fired so specific to searches all I've got to go on is Charlie Strong. But from the Big 12 conference troubles to the Pac-16 to conference expansion or lack thereof (nice job hoodwinking Houston there) to the Longhorn Network to everything else Texas is the school that creates the most batshit insane rumors that people actually believe, just because they're Texas. Ideally that type of bullshit doesn't matter to actual decision makers, but Texas is consistently so far up their own rear end that I have no doubt a decent amount of the leaked crap is coming from people who actually are in a place to influence things at least somewhat. e: For the record Strong should absolutely go, I'm not arguing against making a move. I am arguing the process is likely to annoy the living poo poo out of everyone, if it doesn't I'll be amazed. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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LLCoolJD posted:On the other hand, it shows that Texas wouldn't be quick to can Herman. LSU, by comparison, fired its national-championship-winning coach early in the season. The other side of this equation is Texas, who fired their own national championship winning coach (albeit after a season was over) and is about to fire their subsequent hire when he didn't hit the ground running* *-They're going to be completely justified in firing him, but I think coaches generally expect to get four years at non-super competitive schools to get all their own recruits and stuff in place. I'd say the expected loyalty factor is a wash here at best.
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That Works posted:3 years and "worst record in that span in school history" are enough and getting fired for that isn't really going to make HC candidates wary of the program. No I agree, but that's a slight add to the 'fire a national championship coach' with the way Mack was treated on his way out. LSU did a little worse to Les with the whole flirting with Jimbo, no just kidding thing (which I'd consider a lot worse than an in-season firing). But honestly they're both snake pits as far as this particular argument goes.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:What about the rumors about Holgo I could have seen this maybe, I don't know, not out of the realm of possibility happening if this was his 4-8 year at WVU and he wanted to get out while Houston looked like a good place to end up. It's like someone at Houston had the same thought in 2013 and just kept thinking it, ignoring that he's having his best year at WVU since they joined the big 12.
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Thermos H Christ posted:IDK if Herman is gonna be the truth or not but it seems obvious that we needed to make a change and Herman is obvious choice as far as a guy who understands the football scene in the state of Texas. I will give Texas credit. Although there were annoyed rumblings since like, day one, it was only a little over a week of seriously everyone knows he's gone before they fired him and then actually hired someone right away. This is much better than last time. Bonus no sub-credible Saban rumors, or Tomlin, or whoever else was thrown around last time.
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