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2x is a normal open for a lot of players that would c-bet these days, opening to 3x is old hat in tourneys. 2x is seen as enough to buy the folds you get at 3x, but that means you still need a c-bet bluff percentage to be +EV
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There is so much LOLanalysis going on here. These are micro tournaments right? MP probably thinks "I have a decent hand I should raise" and is likely c-betting when checked to him almost every time. Check calling is fine, leveling yourself into bet folding is stupid. Check folding is the worst option.
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Imaduck posted:Check with the intention of check-calling most action unless something really weird happens. Sheep-Goats posted:Why do we want our hand to improve? JaySB posted:There is so much LOLanalysis going on here. These are micro tournaments right? MP probably thinks "I have a decent hand I should raise" and is likely c-betting when checked to him almost every time. Check calling is fine, leveling yourself into bet folding is stupid. Check folding is the worst option. So I do check, MP cbets 7000 into about a 15,000 chip pot, the Button calls, and I call. The pot is now 36,000. The turn comes: 2h The board is now: Jh, 6s, 4d, 2h My action. IED enthusiast fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Can you please just post full HH and ask for analysis. Debating every action on every street in without full information isn't ideal. Your flop action could potentially change since the button called the c-bet from MP which you didn't tell us.
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Hey JaySB, you confounded the Poker Guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdBI04Jg45I I have a theory about what you were doing there. What do you think of their analysis? Was there anything going on that we didn't see? (you should also tweet at them - they love it when the actual players tell them what was up) Imaduck fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Imaduck posted:Hey JaySB, you confounded the Poker Guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdBI04Jg45I There's some actual really good analysis in the comments sections mixed in the with the idiots. During the 3 months between making the FT and playing the FT I spent a good deal of time convincing everyone that I was going to be a super nit. JC knew this. I knew JC knew this, I know JC is perfectly capable of opening his SB light against me. In this spot specifically I didn't want to play post flop with JC because he was certainly capable of out playing me if I don't flop a set. I also knew he was frustrated so I 3 bet. After he 4 bet I spent a good bit of time looking at him trying to get a read and I didn't think he was extremely strong, I thought I could get him to fold 77-99, AJs and AQo. I knew how strong clicking back in this spot looks, I'm really only representing 5 hands of which he blocks 2. And because he thinks I'm a super nit and he thinks that I'm really not trying to make moves because of pay jumps, my bet appears even stronger in my mind.
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JaySB posted:During the 3 months between making the FT and playing the FT I spent a good deal of time convincing everyone that I was going to be a super nit. quote:JC knew this. I knew JC knew this, I know JC is perfectly capable of opening his SB light against me. In this spot specifically I didn't want to play post flop with JC because he was certainly capable of out playing me if I don't flop a set. I also knew he was frustrated so I 3 bet. After he 4 bet I spent a good bit of time looking at him trying to get a read and I didn't think he was extremely strong, quote:I thought I could get him to fold 77-99, AJs and AQo. I knew how strong clicking back in this spot looks, I'm really only representing 5 hands of which he blocks 2. And because he thinks I'm a super nit and he thinks that I'm really not trying to make moves because of pay jumps, my bet appears even stronger in my mind.
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Imaduck posted:Other than what was shown in TV, how did you do this? Did you like, post stuff on social media saying you were just going to try to fold your way to heads up or something? JC and I have a lot of mutual friends through poker, we all spent a bit of time traveling to poker tournaments between July and November that year and all of our sponsors sent us to WSOPE. So I would "talk strategy" any time I could with the guys telling them I planned to nit it up and that I was running sims and I was gonna be upset if I didn't get at least 4th based on my stack size and table position etc etc etc. I'm a firm believer that a HUGE aspect of live poker that gets overlooked is your perceived image at the table. I basically never bluff people I don't know because I look at myself in the mirror and say "I'd probably call that guy" I look like I would play hyper laggy and be a station. Being seated directly next to JC, I was able to see his eyes behind his glasses and he just didn't look pleased with the way the hand was playing out. I think he took a bit more time than normal to 4 bet me there and I thought his sizing was smaller than previous re-raises I'd seen from him. We had played a few hands together throughout the tournament as well. But I guess mainly it was just gut feeling. e: I also didn't think JC thought I was capable of 3 betting him light much less 5 betting him JaySB fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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So how do you decide if you're going to try to see the flop? Pair or better? High pair or better? Some other scheme? (Newbie here)
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maskenfreiheit posted:So how do you decide if you're going to try to see the flop? Pair or better? High pair or better? Some other scheme? (Newbie here) "Can I make money seeing the flop?" is the general answer. Obviously not a very helpful answer to you right now but it's almost always about the profitability of the overall situation, almost never just the cards. If I'm in position against what will probably be three other players going into it there are a ton of things I play when I wouldn't out of position against one person who is decent at poker. And it's not as simple as just adding stuff on in some kind of gradient either, there are hands I would definitely play vs one person that I would think very little of in a lot of three or four way pots. If you're brand new see the flop with any pair or any two picture cards in position for one bet, out of position any pair 88 or better or any ace plus picture or KQ for one bet. raton fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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maskenfreiheit posted:So how do you decide if you're going to try to see the flop? Pair or better? High pair or better? Some other scheme? (Newbie here) 1. You should not be playing very many hands at all. At a 10 person table, most solid strategies involve playing only 20-30% of your starting hands. Poker is a game of patience. 7-8 times out of 10 you should be folding, and typically as a new player, you should be on the tighter (more conservative) side of this. 2. There are basically two types of classes of hands you should play: hands that are naturally strong, like AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQ, KQ, etc., and hands that aren't necessarily strong on their own, but have the potential to make really big hands, e.g. TJs (the 's' means "suited"), 89s, 22+ (we're just trying to make three of a kind with small pairs), etc. These types of hands typically give us easier decisions as the hand progresses. Hands like Q7o ('o' means "offsuit") are difficult to play, because even if we hit our queen or 7, we won't know if it's the best hand since there are often going to be higher pair cards out there, or our opponents could have us out kicked. Hands like TJs are usually easy to play, because you can have flush and straight outs, and typically always have a decent idea where your hand stands by the river. 3. Never "limp" pots preflop. "Limping" means simply calling the big blind, instead of raising. Limping is a bad strategy, because it lets lots of other players into our pot for cheap, and often defines our hand as at least somewhat weak, which lets other players attack us too easily. Playing multiway pots is very difficult, and we want to maximize our ability to make good decisions by avoiding difficult spots. Raising lets us thin out the field. If a player bets in front of you, you should strongly consider raising or folding, and rarely should you call. If you are going to call in a multiway pot, you want to do so with more speculative hands like 78s, as opposed to strong hands like AA (although it's okay to raise both). AA doesn't handle multiway pots too well, and our opponents will be able to attack us pretty easily if they sense weakness. 4. Practice positional poker. Basically, being closer to the button is an advantage, both when you open your hand preflop where you'll have less people acting behind you that can attack, and after the flop, when you'll act last and always have the most information when you make your decisions. You can raise weaker hands preflop from the button, and if you're under the gun at a 10 handed table, you shouldn't really open things that are] worse than big pocket pairs and AK. There are a variety of charts out there that can give you a general idea of which hands you should be playing in what positions, e.g. this. As a new player, stick to those and commit them to memory. Down the road, you'll learn more about the game and can learn when it's okay to deviate from these plans. 5. Always raise 3x what the last bet was, unless there was a call. If there's a caller out there, you raise more (basically start with a baseline of 3x the last bet, and then add in each caller's bet to that total). There are mathematical justifications as to why you'd should stick around this bet sizing, but for now, just stick to it as a hard rule and you can learn the theory later. If you're finding that your 3x raises are getting called too often and most pots you open are going 4 or 5 way (this happens a lot in live games), raise fewer hands, and make your raises bigger, like the 4-6x range.
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Sheep-Goats posted:c/r button all in, get snapped by 35dd, ggggggggggggggg This except 64s. I hit a Q on the river and got away with it... JaySB posted:Can you please just post full HH and ask for analysis. Debating every action on every street in without full information isn't ideal. Your flop action could potentially change since the button called the c-bet from MP which you didn't tell us. Ok, I prefer it that way, I just recalled seeing hands posted this way at some point. How about this hand. LHE live cash session. KsKc UTG, I bet from seat 6 and I'm raised from seat 8, who is raised by seat 10, calls from seat 1, 2, 3 and 5. I cap it and everyone comes along. Flop comes Kh, Qh, Td. Seat 5 checks and I check. The 8 seat bets and is raised from seat 10, called by seats 1,2 and 5, (3 seat folds), and I CR and seat 8 caps everyone calls to the turn. 6s. Seat 5 bets, I raise, seat 8 raises, seat 10 completes, 1 completes, seat 2 folds,and before seat 5 can act I complete and am bitched out by seat 8 for acting out of turn, (honestly I was exhausted and on hour 12 or so of a 24 hour live session trying to get free monthly slotplay by hitting a reward tier that awarded such nonsense). Seat 5 completes anyway and I call. River 5s. Seat 5 checks, I check, seat 8 bets, seat 10 calls seats 1 and 5 fold I call. IED enthusiast fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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You can probably slow down on the raising on the turn, even C/R that flop 7 ways to a flop is questionable after a bet and a raise. There's a pretty solid chance someone ends up with AJ/J9 there with that action. Although I play basically no LHE so I don't know wtf I'm talking about. I can probably find a river fold as I don't think those idiots are re-raising on the river without nutted hands.
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With that much multiway action I don't think top set is good by the turn. I didn't add up the bet bets but I'm pretty sure you're required to stay in there to scream PAIR THE BOARD on every street at the guy with the shakes and the hairpiece. I haven't played LHE for like 15 years though maybe so w/e
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Sheep-Goats posted:With that much multiway action I don't think top set is good by the turn. I didn't add up the bet bets but I'm pretty sure you're required to stay in there to scream PAIR THE BOARD on every street at the guy with the shakes and the hairpiece. This was pretty much my understanding of Ed Miller's SSHE. Better to call the river than to fold a giant pot. I probably could have avoided a fourth bet on the flop... but more often than not you want to push AA out of there and ward off straight and flush draws, (or at least charge them for each card). Nothing to be done against a flopped straight. I really wish the last (or second to last) card had been both a heart and paired the board. Next time I guess. Poker is more exhausting than I recall. I need to more actively document hands... but in LHE it is harder to recall the action when the pot goes 6 or 7 ways. I'm also a bit worried that LHE is loving up my NLHE game.
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Question for the poker guys here... As you can see I'm a long time goon here... I just started working as a dealer over 2 years ago...I just started dealing poker about 5 months ago and I'm floundering for tokes in the poker room. Help a fellow goon out and tell me what makes you throw a little extra the dealers way in the casino poker room. TBF my concerns are my rack, my rake, my players change, and then the pot. I'm slow to recognize the winner (we just got pai gow and that's helping with the speed there) and I second guess myself a lot listening to the players but I'm getting better with every hour on the table. Just could use some constructive criticism from the 1 thru 10 seats if possible.
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Being fast and keeping the game moving are huge. Make sure players know the action is on them when it's their turn. You might have to constantly prod drunk and otherwise distracted players. New players need to be reminded of things repeatedly. Reading the board correctly at showdown is super important. Focus on getting it right for now. Speed will come with time. I've found talkative dealers that joke with the players get better tips, as long as they're not slowing the game down. Every dealer has their own style when it comes to this, so figure out how to use your personality to make the game more interesting. If you're in a place with lots of tourists, give them recommendations on what to do around town.
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Best way to get more tips is deal more hands. Most players are going to be regulars and most regulars are consistent with their tip amount. Maybe there are some things you can do to squeak out an extra dollar once in a while but if you're not naturally personable it can be hard. So, things that help you deal more hands -- like Imaduck says, helping or chiding distracted players. Pointing to the 1 seat when it's hard to see the 10 seat already acted. Knowing when action has ended on a street and continuing without delay. Sorting out showdowns quicker. That will lead to a linear increase in tips. I don't think pitching mechanics actually make that much of a difference. Yes it's awesome when a dealer whips out all the cards in under two seconds. Yeah sometimes a dealer feels like they are going slow as molasses. If you think about it, dealing is only going to take up about 2-3 minutes of every hour. If you could magically deal instantly you would fit in 2 more hands. It's not what slows the game down, but it is the most noticeable part. You probably know this but never take a side in an argument or say anything favoring a player at another player's detriment. There will always be horrible mean grumpy people but that's one thing you can do to stay off their never tip shitlist (you will end up on this list anyway when you deal them some cooler eventually)
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I've been grinding hard in the Upswing Poker Lab. If you're at all serious about getting better at poker I'd highly recommend it. I was not paid to say that and had to pay for access to the info but the few tweaks I've put into my game since then have been well worth the cost.
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JaySB posted:I've been grinding hard in the Upswing Poker Lab. If you're at all serious about getting better at poker I'd highly recommend it. This UI reminds me of codecademy. I wish something like this existed for LHE. Just watching the promo video for now though, if someone has an affiliate link or sth I'll use it if I decide to try it out, although it wouldn't be for a while, I'm still studying LHE for now/building a roll for NL200 (feel free to send a PM). But once I am satisfied with my LHE knowledgebase/build a proper roll for NL200 I am planning to pivot to NLHE live/online cash. Right now I'm just over 700BB in 4/8LHE. The key thing I have learned from LHE and MTT study is that preflop hand selection is paramount. It is also the easiest leak you can plug. Whether you get your pfh charts from a website or a book isn't that important, you can add/remove hands from your ranges as you go/adjust against bad/tricky players, but it helps to have a solid strategy memorized so well that you can recall starting hands to open with, to see a raise with, and to reraise and 4bet with blind preflop from any position (especially in LHE as the play is much more straightforward than NLHE). For MTTs I have been using the tool snapshove on iOS and I'll swear by it. Crushing online SnGs has a good syllabus for learning SNGs, and their pivot tables can sub for snapshove if you prefer a book to an iphone app, or don't have hundreds of dollars for an annual subscription service (snapshove is only like a 15 or 20usd one time fee, the online training sites, cardrunners, TPE, or upswing as JaySB recommended all cost between 30 and 60usd/month) although the value is definitely there. I am approaching online services and coaching as I would a session with a TF/TA in college, learn as much as I can, read all the material in preparation, and go to them with lingering questions, problems I truly cannot solve with as much prep as possible so I spend as little time/money as possible, however it could be that the online services/coaching could teach all these concepts much faster and in a more digestible fashion, but I still think it is best to show up to these platforms/sessions prepared to learn. People tend to think you're a fish as well when you have a book on the table, they're all, "oh are you on chapter one," I printed out the charts from COSNGs, SSHE, HEPFAP and use them to check my decisions after I make them and to review a range from a position if I can't recall the range perfectly (easier in live play than online, although online you can pull this all up on your screen in an excel sheet). You can adjust your charts to better serve your range in excel and print them out for live play, I print on half sheets (booklets) so they fit nicely inside the sleeve of a book. As for studying ranges I use pokerstove, it is a highly visual interactive tool that helps with the memorization portion of the hand range and provides a visual reference that becomes second nature after a few hundred iterations. The best format for memorizing hands from books I recall came from Crushing Online SNGs. The range format went pairs, high card unsuited range, high card suited range (e.g. 88+, AJ, ATs, KQ, KJs, etc). I prefer this format because it is how I plug my range into poker stove for memorization, as a result when I learn a new range, I adjust it into this format if it is provided in some other format, e.g. SSHE, HEPFAP both have different hand range formats that I converted for the sake of memorization. For mental game stuff, since I saw it on the upswing site, I would strongly recommend tendler's The Mental Game of Poker 1 & 2 as audio books, (I was able to buy the ebook on amazon and get the audio book offering for like a dollar more but I am not sure if this is still possible). These books gave me a blueprint for working through my other leaks, and the ALM gives a great way to see just how well you have mastered those leaks as you are in the process of plugging them. IED enthusiast fucked around with this message at 22:27 on May 2, 2017 |
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Stormfang1502 posted:I just started working as a dealer over 2 years ago... I agree that the more action that occurs the more money you will make. It seems like people tend to tip because of the way a hand goes, i.e. when they win, so the more hands that people win, the more tips you will see, so deal more hands! Remind players that you delivered when they keep asking for winning hands and you finally deal one. 2+2 has a dealer's handbook, I'll let you know if it is worth reading if I ever get around to it. In my limited experience the tips aren't much better at higher stakes but the players tend to have more experience/cruise more venues more often than the lower stakes guys, (esp. in limit). Listen to those players, they'll complain about things that bother them when they go to other casinos/or when another dealer annoys them (unless you're that dealer), e.g. last month I heard one 50/100 reg complain that at the Borgata the dealers were washing every hand without being asked, don't do that unless it is forced on you by the floor or the table requests it (votes it in). They'll also stir up tips for you if their game is ever not running, another 50/100 reg came down to 4/8 one night because nothing else was running, and got some kid so excited they were fighting over who would give the bigger tip if they won a hand. I would suggest playing a bit or watching what the dealers who make the most in tips do if possible. I have seen that at higher stakes the players will try to entertain new players by making jokes and being friendly. They're obviously incentivised by easy money, but I think they probably learned this trick from the dealers. Personally I find card tricks/flourishes cool, and I also appreciate when someone remembers me. IED enthusiast fucked around with this message at 22:47 on May 2, 2017 |
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For Push/Fold decisions I tried SNG Coach by ICMIZER. It's neat and powerful but hard to conceptualize and improve for use at the table, at least for me :/
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wide stance posted:For Push/Fold decisions I tried SNG Coach by ICMIZER. It's neat and powerful but hard to conceptualize and improve for use at the table, at least for me :/ I have read somewhere people swearing by this, I haven't tried it out. I feel like rote memorization of shoving ranges in comparison to the blinds is likely sufficient, which is why I prefer spending a nominal one time sum on a book/app. Once I feel like my recall is more or less effortless, and have a serious db of sngs to look at, (sadly someone stole the laptop I used from 07-10) perhaps I'll take a harder look. I seem to recall people loving sngwizard.
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A good dealer is fast, doesn't get confused, and doesn't act/look like Droopy Dog when he's dealing cards. It's also a plus when you don't have to tell them "four cards" every round on the PLO table but I understand every other table in there is doing two card so ok. Also I'm sorry that I'm a bad tipper. I worked as a bartender before so I understand how lovely it is to have regs that don't tip well or often, but I have rules about when I do and don't tip (pot has to be 50BB+ and I have to currently be up for the session and it's always a dollar -- I realize the "session" demarcation is artificial and it's solely there to cut my tipping roughly in half) and there's probably not a lot you can do to get me to break them. The dealers in the Venetian universally told me that you make more on a 1/2 table there than you do on a 2/5. This is because so many of the players on the Venetian 2/5 tables were (probably are) regs that they also see tipping as cutting into winrates rather than part of the fun game they play. There is one dealer there that I always tip (actually two, the second one is a friend though) and that's because she's the best poker dealer in the world, easily. Half Dominican woman, fast as lightning, error free, remembers every reg like a database, always upbeat, shakin the old white haired men into action promptly. But she's superhuman in that regard, I don't think I've ever honestly met a dealer that was half as good as her and there are a lot of really good dealers in Vegas (and a few turds). There's a guy that's a part time room manager at the Flamingo that is very good as well. One thing that I see a lot of good dealers do that a lot of bad dealers don't is to use a hand to prompt action. Usually this is the deck hand and they put it out in front of players that need to act as a reminder, especially the 1 and 2 seats. It's probably a strain to be doing this all day which is why not everyone does this but it really helps keep the game going if you've got some guy telling Vietnam Vet stories to his biker buddy over there and they're both on about their fourteenth Coors Light. raton fucked around with this message at 06:58 on May 5, 2017 |
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IED enthusiast posted:I have read somewhere people swearing by this, I haven't tried it out. I feel like rote memorization of shoving ranges in comparison to the blinds is likely sufficient, which is why I prefer spending a nominal one time sum on a book/app. Once I feel like my recall is more or less effortless, and have a serious db of sngs to look at, (sadly someone stole the laptop I used from 07-10) perhaps I'll take a harder look. I seem to recall people loving sngwizard. The key thing about SNG Coach and ICMIZER is that it accounts for all chip sizes at the table, not just your own and the guy pushing before you. Also future game simulation (FGS), aka upcoming hands. Also the payout structure. All making it super complex. When running the calculation it can sometimes take my 5th generation intel desktop CPU more than a second to complete. For instance if you're in the small blind and the action folds to you, your push range should take into account the chip size of the big blind and the total number of players remaining, in addition to your own stack. In some cases it's any two cards you should push in this scenario, or it could be under 10%.
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I tip the dealer as they sit down at the table and again as they leave. That's it. Unless I win some monstrous 100+BB pot or something. It's not personal but it cuts into my win rate. Also last time I was at the world series was 2010, and even though it was a recession the cash games were juicy as hell. A winning pro player mentioned to me that he thought it was juicier in 2010 than it was in 2016, which I found puzzling. Has the juiciness noticeably decreased since 2010?
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May 8, 2017 05:42
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How is a 100bb pot monstrous?
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I play live 3-5 and people often don't have more than than 175 bb in their stack.
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If you aren't playing 100+bb pots at the mid/low stakes live you aren't 3 betting enough.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:I tip the dealer as they sit down at the table and again as they leave. That's it. Unless I win some monstrous 100+BB pot or something. It's not personal but it cuts into my win rate. Tables weren't juicy really at all at WSOP 2015 imo. Players are very bad at deal making though so you can make good money playing those satellite-for-entry type things or their feeders and then selling the tokens to your friends that are actually doing the events (or using them yourself). The edge really isn't in the poker so much as you get to the final two with half their stack and go "hey buddy you're my buddy wanna chop??" and they go "yeah! I wanna chop" and you go lol I played at Harrah's quite a bit when the WSOP is going on because the hillbillies like Harrah's for some reason and they're terrible at poker. Probably Wynn was also good to pick on rich fools.
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The last time I was in vegas was 3 years ago but I liked the Wynn because they had 1/3 500 cap which is a fantastic game, they had 2/5 and the one time I went all the backpack+hoodie grinders sat themselves at the same table because they are stupid and left all the fishies to me, and they have a really good drink menu like mochas with whipped cream with a cherry on top :3
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I should add that the WSOP is probably a lot better for people who play 5/10 as their reg game. The Vegas 5/10 regs can be pretty tough to make a living against and they're probably relieved to see fresh blood for a while each year.
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Sheep-Goats posted:I should add that the WSOP is probably a lot better for people who play 5/10 as their reg game. The Vegas 5/10 regs can be pretty tough to make a living against and they're probably relieved to see fresh blood for a while each year. Ehhh the Wynn 5/10 used to be the best game in town. Uncapped game and guys would just come dump money. 5/10 is still decent around town but the 10/20+ games get really good during WSOP. Most people are probably better off game selecting well for a 2/5 game than playing a tougher 5/10 though.
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The WSOP killed off the November Nine: https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/The-WSOP-will-no-longer-have-a-November-Nine_100909/ I'm happy to see it go, but I'm curious what your thoughts are about it Jay. Do you feel like you would you have benefitted from no November Nine during your run, or were you glad to have the break for study?
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Prancing Shoes posted:The WSOP killed off the November Nine: https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/The-WSOP-will-no-longer-have-a-November-Nine_100909/ Study? Lol I drank the whole time. I think it's not good for the player and probably not good for the average fan. The break allows time for the Nine to get sponsors and ESPN to build hype around them. Coaching, etc etc are all pretty important to most people. I think some players will want to carry the momentum they have going into the FT and not have a break though.
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I wonder what percentage of players actually used the break to study. It seemed to me that number was always much lower than it should be with millions in equity on the line. People making push/fold mistakes or having no idea what to do short handed/heads up.
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May 15, 2017 22:27
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It's probably really high and there's a lot more that goes into studying for the FT than memorizing push/fold charts which you know ICM plays a big part at the FT. And if you're not a HU specialist or short don't have much experience playing short handed it's gonna be near impossible to play perfect factoring in everything else.
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May 16, 2017 01:40
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Would you enjoy poker and play it for fun if there was no money involved? It seems to me that most of the appeal of the game is due to gambling, if you removed the money do you think there would still be a professional scene like chess? Bet with fake money or points and try to win the world champion title? Pit your wits against Deep Flop the ultimate computer poker AI opponent?
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That's kind of a fundamental question for anything. If you enjoy something you do it, but it's way better if you can get paid if you're good at it right? I love the social aspect of poker. I also love taking other people's money.
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