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Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.
Hello, I was wondering what average rake at a B&M casino would be for 3/6 limit hold em and SHUT UP I THINK IT'S FUN OK. :v: I'm not really profitable yet, and until I get done paying for lessons, I'd like to give myself the best chance possible.

Also: what's toking typically like where you play? Out here it's usually 1 for a multi way that goes to the flop and two if you drag a(n arbitrarily) large pot, but again, limit player. I definitely understand the dealers don't make much as is, but I also don't want to constantly tip the waiter 35% because I don't know any better.

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Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.
Woof. That does explain a little bit of the slow bleed, at least. I should start setting tips aside into its own category for ROI tracking instead of just a flat semi hourly record, and also the dealers are going to hate me. :negative:

Oh well, that's poker!

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Sheep-Goats posted:

It's okay to just try to play well and accept that you're losing money to the rake or whatever too. If you're trying to make money you should probably be looking at around 5/10 limit (at least -- that usually means 8/16 because you don't usually see 5/10 limit, but maybe you can beat the rake at 4/8) anyway -- the rake is big issue with profitability in the smallest games a room sets usually.

I think they have 5/10, but that's gonna require, what, 200 to sit down and 1500 as a total bankroll? I don't remember offhand but I think 40 and 300 BB are right to cover limit swings.

If I have 1500 I don't need the 5-7 an hour :stare:

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.
The simpler thing to note is that, if you think he has a flush draw, you still have a very good redraw (10 outs) if he hits on the turn. Freak two pair leaves him with six outs, and if he's unlucky enough to have the case five, then laffo.

Literally the only hands I'd worry about here are JJ or 99, and since that's a very specific range, just go ahead and get the money in now. You're in a great position, and if the turn goes bad, you're still stuck to the end.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

AARO posted:

I will say in 2016, even at 2nl, there are tons of multi tabling nits playing 14/11 at six max that just wait for the nuts and then bet like crazy. Perhaps these players are bots or maybe their just Ukrainian grinders trying to make $10 profit a day.

Overal, today the average player at 2nl (I mean the regs) is about what a 50nl player was in 2009. There are actually people grinding out at the lowest stakes. Poker is in a really sad state these days.

We were doing so well online, and then loving Bush and the loving Port Act. :eng99:

e: With that being said, I think there's still money to be made in low stakes B&M multi-table tourneys. How much depends on the consistency of your play, of which mine is not very.

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