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bengy81
May 8, 2010
So, like most other US players, I haven't played since the big crackdown thing a few years ago, but thanks to the OP I'm kind of interested in getting back into online play. Do any of the recommended sites have players in other games like stud or Omaha, or are they mostly just NLHE?

3-5 pl stud was my jam on Full Tilt back in the day...

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bengy81
May 8, 2010
Regarding books, I saw the recommendations from the first page, but I was wondering if any of the older Sklansky books still hold up? Like I have Hold em and Stud for advanced players, and I haven't read them in a few years, just wondering if it's worth taking the time on them or if I should invest in some newer material.

bengy81
May 8, 2010

Sheep-Goats posted:

I think newer Hold'em material would be well worth the small money you'd pay for it over those ancient Sklansky books. Stud for Advanced Players is still used mostly because there isn't much out there in the way of Stud books (same for the 2-7 chapter in Super System 2), at least not in book form. I know Joe Tall has some Stud videos on deucescracked, which is also his site.

Note that the recommendations earlier in the thread were all almost entirely about No Limit Hold'em. Hold'em For Advanced Players is a limit book. You should, of course, read a book about the variation of poker you're going to play. If you play NLHE and have only really read Sklansky's old HFEP book then Small Stakes No Limit Hold'em by Metha/Flynn is basically the best possible book for you. If the price on it is prohibitive to you (like 30 bucks or something new?) you might be able to find a very extended sample of it in PDF form somewhere online.

Thanks, I totally forgot that HE was a limit book. I figured it was worth investing in some newer material, but figured it was also worth asking about.
Poker books are expensive but I think 2 + 2 is running a sale at the moment. Also I would go ahead and say that if a 30 book on poker is too much money then you probably picked the wrong hobby.

bengy81
May 8, 2010
Hey, thanks for the Jcarver recommendation, turns out his stuff is pretty entertaining.

I know I'm like a month late on this question, but how do you feel about dudes like Ferguson and Lederer coming out of the woodwork to start playing in tournaments?
I've seen a lot of butthurt about it and even as somebody that was boned by FTP I have a hard time caring whether or not they are playing.

bengy81
May 8, 2010

Sheep-Goats posted:

It just seems goofy to me. Unsportsmanlike definitely not, if they think they give away that much info with, like, the pulse in their loving neck then go ahead and cover it up. Sunglasses I can understand if you don't want people to know you're looking at them at particular times but I look at the same person at the same time most any hand anyway so there's no reason for me to wear them. Pupillary dilation? Give me a break.

It is however absolutely ridiculous to go in on any of this poo poo at a 1/2 game. If you're playing for a living at 2/5 or up or whatever then you know, fine, I get it, it's your livelihood and you have a right to overdo it. For the lowest game in the house full of casual players? Come on man.

For a while in Vegas (in certain casinos at certain times) they were not allowing people to put their hoods up on their hoodies. I think this was mostly for image reasons as the older locals hate certain things, one of those being black people, and by extension hoodies, especially with the hood up.

Note that wearing glasses and things like that isn't strictly +EV. Sometimes it can be a struggle to see hearts vs. diamonds if you're in the three or four seat and the casino is dark, put on glasses and maybe you make an occasional mistake about that where if you weren't wearing glasses you wouldn't have. Maybe you get a drunk retard coming out of the nightclub who has an extra 1200 in his pocket that he's going to either try to double in twenty minutes or lose because he struck out in the club -- which table is he going to sit at, the one with normal looking people or the one full of people dressed up like the loving Black Mage? If you're trying to make sure the drunks have fun so they rebuy a few more times it's going to be harder to do that wearing a balaclava than it would be with your honest normal face.

I want a lot of people to play poker and enjoy it. Not just because I make more money that way, but because poker is a genuinely good game that makes most of the people who play it better people. It gives a social arena for older folks whose friends have died off. It's one of the purest games for games sake out there with a rule set that's arguably simpler than go (rare beats not rare, you take turns bidding on the pot with certain restrictions on the size of these bids, that's about it) and a set of rules for perfect play that's probably larger and more nuanced. Part of my job as a poker player (and human) is to make what I like as open to other people as I can so that they'll be happy to try it out and do it with me and honestly that's the reason I don't gear up to play poker. The worst thing I do is bring a fanny pack with the faceplate from my car stereo in it and I only do that because my loving car got stolen and the radio cut out of it at the Venetian one time.

Post pics of fanny pack please. TIA

bengy81
May 8, 2010

IED enthusiast posted:

Those were the golden days.


I seem to recall getting about a chapter into this before they suggest reading Professional No-Limit Hold'em Vol 1, where they talk extensively about putting people on hands and planning hands, they have some name for this that I forget. Is this a necessary read or can noobs pass over this on their road to live or online cash riches? (i.e. Moshman has a book on SNG's that is basically replaced by his student Greg Jones).

Also I found Harrington on Online Cash Games to be super valuable in summarizing what I already knew about positional ranges.


I am reminded of this video


So the tournament play here is soft, but I was a little put off when I saw several quad over quad plays in a very small hand sample. I have seen worse, back in like 2007-2009 but it just struck me as odd.




Everyone says good things about Bovada, but I can't justify playing without rakeback. What is the rake structure/volume on MTTs and SNGs there?

Also anyone playing much at Foxwoods or in Chicagoland lately?

Ignition does 10% rake on MTT's. not sure about SNG's.

For what it's worth, they don't usually do more than 1.5 hrs of late reg. and they don't have a million tournies with ridiculous overlay like they did until mid last year.
ACR has way more variety, but Ignition isn't bad .

I've yet to see any quad over quad hands in the last year on either site, so maybe you just have a weird sample. But if you are implying that ACR is rigged than online poker might not be for you.

bengy81
May 8, 2010

IED enthusiast posted:

Here is another live tournament hand I'm pretty much certain I misplayed.

I am BB with about 32,000 in chips. Blinds are 1,000 and 2,000 antes are 300.

UTG calls as do three seats near the button and the small blind. I check T8off and the flop comes.

3 suited Q J 9.

UTG bets the pot and everyone folds to me.

My action.


Also:

Anyone going to FW for their high hand promotion Monday?

What's UTG's stack size? Is limping standard at this point of the tournament? Do we have any history on villain?
Not trying to ask dick questions, I just don't get to play live very much, and I know live plays quite a bit different than online.

bengy81
May 8, 2010
With your stack size I think you shove, unless you have some reason to believe he has a straight that can beat yours take the opportunity to double up.

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bengy81
May 8, 2010

maskenfreiheit posted:

Like, how do you decide whether to fold pre-flop.

I've been folding pre-flop. unless I have at least a pair or suited high cards.

That's seems like a pretty exploitable play style tbh. I mean I don't play tons live but it probably good enough to win at 1/2...but I feel like at best you are leaving some money on the table...
I would at least try to find some decent starting hand charts and memorize those or do some flopzilla or pokerstove work and try to come up with some decent ranges for different positions.

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