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The green/white eldrazi list is actually superior to the mono-whit eone just because brushland is a triland effectively.
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Elyv posted:I've never seen GW Eldrazi in Vintage, but I don't follow the format closely. Got a list? Its on the Mana Drain but TMD is down right now. Its under the eldrazi thread.
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Elyv posted:I've never seen GW Eldrazi in Vintage, but I don't follow the format closely. Got a list? http://www.themanadrain.com/topic/350/white-eldrazi/4 For gw eldrazi. The main takeaway is bushland and horizon canopy are insane, and Noble hierarch pushes you over the top in the mirror, allowing you to push through damage with exalted triggers and wasteland more without colorscrewing yourself. YMMV of course, but it looks great to me.
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Jun 9, 2016 14:28
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AgentSythe posted:They're just lucky I had a wedding and couldn't bring the ultimate in anti-Eldrazi technology Moat Stompy? I dont think that deck can beat turn 1 moat.
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Jun 13, 2016 02:28
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AgentSythe posted:Man, if only there were a deck that played both of these...  Speaking of moats and rest in peaces, I might be picking up the pieces for enchantress soon. That's gonna be all sorts of fun.
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Jun 20, 2016 18:15
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AgentSythe posted:Let's talk about the objectively best eternal format, which is Pauper I'm running a grixis or 4 color (depending on the win con I want) teachings/skred control list. I really really like curse of the bloody tome vs the peregrine Drake list in particular, since they can't combo you if you mill their 1 guy that mills. Also it's just sweet in general. If I'm playing 4 color, it's for sprout spawning to have a win con I can tutor for. Either way, I think I want to be playing a boatload of removal, some crypt incursions and winning with jaces erasure or curse of the bloody tome.
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Jun 22, 2016 06:51
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AgentSythe posted:i need a list immediately This is where I'm at currently. Considerations for changes Im thinking now: 1 more mill card, and another crypt incursion, or blockers somewhere. When I was playing sprout spawning (which I cut because dispel is too common nowadays to rely on it) it was great for making blockers, but this list leans heavily on removal then eventually resolving a crypt incursion halfway through milling the opponents deck to stay alive. its weak to mono-black, but is otherwise decent in most matchups. 4 Evolving Wilds 3 Izzet Boilerworks 8 Snow-Covered Island 2 Snow-Covered Mountain 2 Snow-Covered Swamp 4 Terramorphic Expanse 4 Accumulated Knowledge 4 Brainstorm 1 Chainer's Edict 4 Counterspell 1 Crypt Incursion 2 Curse of the Bloody Tome 1 Diabolic Edict 2 Dispel 1 Echoing Truth 1 Electrickery 1 Jace's Erasure 3 Lightning Bolt 1 Logic Knot 3 Mana Leak 2 Mystical Teachings 1 Pyroblast 2 Skred 2 Staggershock 1 Terminate Sideboard: 1 Circle of Protection: Red 1 Diabolic Edict 1 Dispel 1 Electrickery 1 Hydroblast 1 Muddle the Mixture 2 Pyroblast 2 Relic of Progenitus 1 Serene Heart 2 Shattering Pulse 1 Skred 1 Snow-Covered Plains edit: I also have been going back and forth on muddle the mixture in the main. I may go for 1-3 drift of phantasms for decent blockers and being able to tutor for crypt incursion. L0cke17 fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jun 22, 2016 |
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Jun 22, 2016 18:41
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AgentSythe posted:the Lava Man is fine if you go the bauble/probe/lava spike/mutagenic growth plan and just try and hit people in the face. if you're on that plan you probably shave a few lands and don't mess around with things like Pia and Kirin I think in the current meta, white is a better splash than red. Yes, you dont get pyroblast, but swords/path and disenchant are way better right now than the direct damage spells. If you do switch it up, you need min 6 fetches, maybe 8. two basics of your splash color, and 1 dual to fetch with the off-color fetch.
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Jun 26, 2016 18:08
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AgentSythe posted:Everything you are saying makes sense, except that I cannot use Plains to cast a Hammer Mage Luckily in their infinite wisdom, and in anticipation of this exact problem, WotC has produced a magical card to circumvent this issue entirely.
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Jun 26, 2016 18:30
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Seems like it needs containment priest main. Legacy is slow enough that the interaction between priest and displacer might be actually really good, rather than just a byproduct of maindeck oath hate like the vintage version has. And last I checked, sneak and show was still a thing, right?
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Jul 2, 2016 19:17
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RoflcopterPilot posted:Somebody talk to me about B/W Death and Taxes. I play ANT almost exclusively right now and have always thought building a non-combo backup deck wouldn't be a bad idea. I've seen a few lists around where they basically bring in Scrublands, discard, and Dark Confidants and cut some of the extra fat on the traditional mono white version. Just trying to see the pros and cons with the black splash, beyond the obvious. Here's a list similar to what I've seen. Seems like the mana-base is worse and it's harder to grind with added life loss due to Bob and fetches?
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Jul 3, 2016 07:16
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Tim Raines IRL posted:I have some $ for a new legacy deck. do i go for the better deck and build infect, or should i put together the daretti stax list I've been playing on xmage? it's not great but it keeps your opponent from playing magic at all. Never not Daretti Stax. Its one of the most fun decks in the format that has the chance to be good.
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Jul 6, 2016 15:46
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mcmagic posted:I want to just stick with Grixis for this weekend but I hate the Eldrazi matchup. Talk me out of switching... Just play max strixes and hope to be lucky.
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Jul 7, 2016 17:16
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I have a dilemna. Should I register 4x moat for an upcoming legacy tournament, or 4x chains of mephistopheles? Or try to brew something with both.
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Jul 13, 2016 06:46
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I dont own tabernacle  I think I'm gonna go with 4 plateaus and play blood moon, stompy lands/chrome mox/mox diamond, moats, and a smattering of zany angels, elspeths and nahiris. And 1 emrakul because why not at that point.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:11
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DarkRider09 posted:My LGS has been getting more into legacy recently, so I finally pulled the trigger on a set of Gaea's Cradle after the price settled back down a bit. Elves has always been my favorite tribe so getting to play an insanely powerful version of the deck is great. Now it's a matter of tweaking the sideboard for the local meta. Luckily there's only 1 guy on miracles in the store. Just as an aside, if you are having trouble with miracles Wren's Run Packmaster is a great card for the matchup. Not only does it hide an elf away from terminus, you can flood the board without casting more spells. Also null rod, reclamation sage, and gaddock teeg are your friends from the board.
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Jul 16, 2016 16:12
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Star Man posted:I am going to try it in Modern and retreive Iona or Elesh Norn. Though I have to learn which color to name against certain matchups. Easy, just play mirror gallery, and play 4 Ionas, and some clones. Name every color and just pray they're not running all is dust.
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Aug 1, 2016 18:09
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Before terminus there was no viable control deck though. Without it there would only be aggro-control and combo left.
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Yeah, its been updated to include mentor, and pyromancer, and all sorts of other things such as lab man doomsday.
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Aug 10, 2016 20:16
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Walked posted:Thanks guys; thats the way I was leaning. I tend to shy away from Modern Infect because its lacking in interaction compared to Jund; so while it's effective, it's not the most engaging. Legacy infect just about entirely fixes this. Definitely infect because blue lands and forces are the most important cards to own.
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Aug 23, 2016 14:58
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mcmagic posted:Yeah but the only cards in Legacy infect that are played in anything else are Forces and Trops... Dazes and cantrips too. It's got way more crossover with other decks than D&t which only has wasteland, stoneforge, and containment priest.
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mehall posted:This is what I'm looking to move into, from my current version of Nic Fit, since I feel like I can lose some of the midrange easy-wins as I feel I'm strong enough against the aggro decks I'm facing. Cut the too cute jank like Yosei, play max hymns. Hymn will give you more game vs most combo and control decks, especially since you also have cabal therapies.
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Aug 29, 2016 16:55
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suicidesteve posted:I bought the last cards for UW Spirits yesterday. Now I just need everything to show up in the mail. Good man. I'm trying out a 5 color Pyromancer list with Leovold and new Thalia. It seems marginally promising. Not sure it's actually good (it isn't) but it's really really fun. After 3 years of miracles straight I'm getting bored of counterbalance.
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suicidesteve posted:It's the first halfway competitive deck I've ever actually wanted to play in modern so hopefully it turns out to be real. Is there any kind of concensus on UW vs. Bant? UW seems like the much more common build. I dont know poo poo about modern. I usually just play mill when I have to play it. I stole the list from some other goon in here I think, or maybe some GP or something? I was most excited about russian cards. Theyre so pretty Errant Gin Monks posted:When I get tired of miracles I switch to Lands. I sold my depths a while back. I didnt see myself ever actually making marit lage again. I mostly just want to be casting young pyromancer when Im not on terminus and co. Maybe I should put Junk back together though. Casting knight of the reliquary again seems sweet.
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suicidesteve posted:
Sweet cards! I was going to go to champs, but Im spending the money on a trip with my fiance instead. Especially since I could only borrow dredge.
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C-Euro posted:X-post from the main thread: Zendikar Expeditions concept becoming re-occurring feature in future blocks, re-named "Masterpieces" and themed specifically for that block. In case your decks weren't blinged out enough. If they weren't foil some of them are almost pretty. But foils are gross. I'd much rather the expeditions instead of being old cards in new borders be new cards in old borders. That would make then actually match the typical eternal players collection .
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Sep 13, 2016 02:25
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Snacksmaniac posted:Beggars can't be choosers Heh, my friend offered me the choice. He has the cards for every variant, including the one that boards into depths combo.
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Sep 13, 2016 04:06
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Snacksmaniac posted:I haven't had a chance to play that yet with the funky SB. We played a proxy league for a bit and I loved regular dredge. I just can't get my hands on Bazaars for Eternal Weekend. It's not good. The depths sideboard plan. Just play whatever Sullivan brophy is playing, because his list is almost certainly correct.
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Sep 13, 2016 19:48
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:the depth sideboard owns actually since it dodges all of their hate I'm aware of that, but it's often too slow to actually win a goldfish vs any reasonable vintage hand. I much prefer the 15 card sideboard of anti-hate you get to bring in whatever directly counters their plan.
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Sep 13, 2016 22:40
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:i prefer to not cast spells when playing dredge and using my draw 2 every turn to find what i need So what you're saying is you would rather not cast spells in dredge, but you would only play depths in the dredge list that casts the most spells?
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Sep 14, 2016 16:20
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Snacksmaniac posted:I'm not familiar with the pitch version. It is worse, in general in my opinion. It has 4 force 4 misstep 4 mind break trap and usually prized amalgam to add more blue to the deck. It generally eschews dread return and the worse dredgers to make room. It's slightly less consistent to have some disruption.
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Sep 14, 2016 16:29
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Tim Raines IRL posted:current mission is to cut elfball lands to 75 cards with 3x eldritch evolution, maindeck taiga, 2x trop, Leovold, Magus of the moon, KoTR, Titania. This sounds amazing, do you have a list posted somewhere?
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So the new 3 mana bw1 adviser hatebear looks super sweet for vintage. The more recent sets have really been hitting it out of the park with disruptive dudes.
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Snacksmaniac posted:Just kiss already I can't handle the suspense! Unpowered eldrazi is great though! Turns out my friend loaning me dredge is getting all foreign cards he was missing for the list to loan me. So I get to not only borrow dredge, I get pimped dredge! Also I'm playing 5 color Pyromancer in legacy. It's super fun.
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Oct 13, 2016 20:41
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Snacksmaniac posted:It's doing pretty great in our mini lunchtime gauntlet against everything but oath. I just really want to play Dredge Yeah... Dredge is pretty fun. It's not magic, but at least the rounds will be over fast.
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Dunno when exactly when they announced it, but the VIP playmat for EW is Library. And it looks gorgeous. And you can get it signed there by the artist. Thats strongly worth considering for $60. You also get a bunch of other junk, but the playmat is what matters.
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Oct 17, 2016 20:20
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Buy Power.
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Man, vintage top 8 had some real drama going on this morning. The eventual winner got deck-checked for 20 minutes, was told 2 of his cards (crucible and sol ring) were clearly marked (the only foils in his deck, single sleeved and very curved)had to replace only one of them immediately (the other had to be replaced after the match, which makes little sense if it really was marked) and got no penalty for it. Did get a warning for insufficient randomization though for other reasons we were told. Many people around were quite  about this both ways. Most everyone but his team were mad that he got off completely scot-free for something so seemingly serious, while his team seemed very mad that anyone would dare impugn his honor that way. Apparently his team (vintage magic) have a reputation for being savage cheaters at other events in the past, which made the whole situation that much more charged and tense.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:finally, pauper can return to its rightful place as the best eternal format: Yeah. Drake was boring to both play and play against. Plus it was just so resilient. Can finally get back to playing 4-5 color control!
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