suicidesteve posted:

I did it. It felt great. Nothing like selling an UNL U Sea you spent $180 on for $400.

Fingers McLongDong posted:

Any UW control players here given any thought into changes in the deck now that jtms is unbanned? I'm almost certainly cutting the single Jace AoT for one, and I'd been messing around with the Ojutai version but that card is always just a win-more so I'm going to cut it for a 2nd jtms. I think two is probably the right number to start. Not sure if the rest of the deck changes composition as a result of including jtms though, or if it's still on the same plan of stall until t4 and wrath. I don't know if the deck wants to start playing mana leak again to improve odds of landing a safe jtms but I doubt it.

Alternatively, people are discussing modern UW miracles? Anyone seen testing of that to indicate if it's better than normal UW draw-go?

C-Euro posted:

Yeah if I ever get the chance to play Magic again I'll have Swans completely built by the end of this week save for the SB Glorious End (and really I'm just too lazy to go to the store in town and get a copy out of the bulk binder).

Flash poll for the non-rotating deck-havers: what is your longest-active deck, both currently-active and all-time (even if you've since taken it apart)? I've had some form of Mill built in Modern since I got back into the game in 2013, it's rarely if ever been the best deck in the room but I've had the most success with it, and the most fun even when it's not playing so well. Once or twice a year I contemplate selling off my collection and just keeping that deck and stockpiling other potential Mill cards but then I realize that any competitive events and my own deck ADD require me to have a "real" deck available as well.

After that I had Titan Breach built for almost two years, I kind of regret talking it apart but it got very same-y after a while and stopped putting up results. Oh well.

The March Hare posted:

Solidarity is the best deck. Also: unban dig through time.

Tim Raines IRL posted:

Purphoros has stolen me a few games; last night I had someone bolt a nest with him out, clearly not thinking about the consequences. Chandra is really strong here, both because the card is stupid in general and because in a pinch it can deal 4 to a nest. Obviously it's an expensive card, but I've been running 3 in otherwise stock Ponza lists because that's how good it's been.

In other spicy news, one of my friends just took #18 out of ~240 at a regionals with this "Naya Ladies" list:


I just finished building it because I only needed ~$20 in cards to do so, and running 3 Ice Age Fiery Justice in a modern 75 is something I need.

C-Euro posted:

Double-post to say that my LGS added Legacy night to its rotation of Friday events a while back, but I just learned that it is full proxy Legacy and now I feel obligated to put something together. If money is no object, which Legacy deck strikes the best balance between "doesn't take a ton of practice to learn" and "leads to fun and interesting games"?

Tim Raines IRL posted:

Real card top, current generation of Chinese counterfeits bottom.

These are the best fakes I've ever seen. The texture is very slightly too glossy, but I think that would wear off with a bunch of riffle shuffling. The title font is not perfect, and that's the biggest tell: rosette looks good to me, we're doing black on top now, light test result is convincing. Tearing these apart, the core looks like the core of a real card. There's no way these would be noticeable in sleeves.

This is gen7 from this particular criminal counterfeiter. The earlier generations were basically nice proxies, but the tech has improved a lot, and at this rate I'm going to be surprised if we don't start seeing cards that I cannot differentiate anymore.

(Note: my personal code of conduct is that I'll never sell/trade/give these away, obviously never use them in sanctioned play, and I'm also not going to talk about where they come from except to say that it's trivial to find). I'm taking these into my LGS with a printout of that zoom so local guys know what's up, after that they're going into a proxy cube.

Tim Raines IRL posted:

I haven't played sanctioned legacy in 14 months and I'm pretty tempted to liquidate everything and rebuild in proxies.

If I do it with these, though, I will probably get a permanent-ink PROXY stamp to deface each card with in permanent ink, because I don't want someone to steal these and then dump them on the market proper.

Agree that carrying around 5+ digits in cardboard at conventions full of randos is a bad feeling.

Walked posted:

GOOSE IS LOOSE

Sleeving up RUG Delver tomorrow

Sampatrick posted:

RUG Delver lacks the resources to take advantage of Pyromancer. RUG has a stronger mana denial suite than Grixis and mana denial is going to be very powerful without DRS bolstering everybody's mana bases. Maybe Mandrills can see play now given that TNN will be worse and there will be less delve threats.

Sampatrick posted:

I don't see why it is. It's fine to call Jeskai Control just a Control deck instead of a Control deck with some burn elements, it's also fine to call KCI a Combo deck rather than a Combo deck with some control elements, it's perfectly fine to also call Humans and Spirits Aggro decks.

Walked posted:

So my buddy and I sleeved up some sorta jank tonight.

Standstill on his end, and Planeswalker Nic Fit on my side.

Holy moly I won't say either deck is good but it was quite possibly the most fun I've had playing magic since middle school

Walked posted:

Miracles is so fuckin fun right now

Tim Raines IRL posted:

Yes. 2nd highest meta share on goldfish @ 8%, 8% on mtgtop8, frequently showing up in paper T8s.

What did it's share peak at right before the top ban, 25% or something dumb? 8% seems fine to me, 25 is not.

Walked posted:

I'm on an AK build. It's just so much smoother than predict/portent.

Generally speaking:
3 Terminus / 1 Verdict
2 Jace (sometimes 3) / 1 Teferi
2 - 3 Mentor
2 Back to Basics (main; 1x side)
No counterbalance main (2x side)

Deck runs incredibly smooth and performs great. It's a bit of an oddball build but I love it.
I waffle over running the red splash because I have sweet beta Volcs but I personally feel that UW is a little better right now.


Yeah its real good. Back to Basics is great; and Accumulated Knowledge is a turbocharger with DRS gone.

Skyl3lazer posted:

The new miracles is so much air that it's unsurprising people keep trying to jam SFMs in to it.


e; I saw a sweet UW delver list that played SFM alongside daze/delver because it puts another card in your hand and brainstorms get better.

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

no but maybe in grixis or some of the slower urx control decks. doing something like turning your baleful strix into another pithing needle or turning your hate piece into a gurmag angler to end the game a turn sooner might be ok

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

you right. the principle still stands tho

Skyl3lazer posted:

It's crazy to me that they're playing 4 cards from the most recent set.

Skyl3lazer posted:

Not sure the exact look of it now, but Anuraag is playing lists like these

suicidesteve posted:

Mezzanon posted:

But now the companion app makes cross pod play mandatory at drafts

Mezzanon posted:

Have you ever been in a 6 person pod and played against someone from an 8 person pod whose deck is the same archetype but better in every possible way because they saw 6 extra packs worth of cards?

Because I have, and it’s the reason I don’t play flgs drafts anymore.


Maybe I’ll come out of limited retirement at a face to face open if i scrub out of a main event