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 So. I play entirely too much Civ. Civ 5 is probably my favourite game of all time and Civ 6 is looking all set to replace it when it comes out later this year. I talk about Civ a lot. I bother my friends about Civ. I've done several screenshot LP's of Civ 5 in the past. (Shhh. We don't talk about how those all fizzled out and went nowhere.  )Anyway! I've figured if I'm going to play that much loving Civ I might as well put at least some of it on camera and so now here's a thread for that! Any Civ stuff I do I'll be putting it in here. For now that'll mostly be Civ 5: Brave New World but that'll probably change the nanosecond Steam lets me launch Civ 6. Maybe I'll throw in some rounds of the older games too here and there but I don't like them as much so don't expect it too often. Art and doodles will relating to Civ will also get posted here since you folks seem to have gotten a kick out of that in the past! First up: I'm joined by Alkydere to show you guys the sheer absurdity of The Dutch in Civ 5 if you give them the right terrain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWVI66IEOXE Link to playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWVI66IEOXE&list=PLaNBLK6-j10UhxFXZmVpsQ03SbZiclBWW Game 2: France (LOSS) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A95jy7p91A Link to playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaNBLK6-j10VMsOmCNVQcjol3kx0Xiv6H Game 3: Polynesia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB9QblSjSos Link to playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaNBLK6-j10XJhHy76mlR_cM-ynEVJJaI Game 4: Morocco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnEiAz5Yp5c Link to playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaNBLK6-j10VXiEHbDqPrBRF-73sYSBqM Game 5: Portugal (Loss) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=860pne1NANE Link to playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaNBLK6-j10WKDOUPb2p4NIz5zZrzdeOa Game 6: The Inca https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT8nQOuY3nI Link to playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaNBLK6-j10WpX1kWuxfFAKONbZepdX8s I'm also available on Twitter if you want hot news about the LP but mostly retweets of dog pics: https://twitter.com/@captfargle I stream occasionally over at: https://hitbox.tv/fargle Any Civ related ones will be announced here in the thread. Captain Fargle fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Jun 6, 2016 03:35
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Looking very much forward to seeing more of this. Civ V is a fantastic game, after all.
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Jun 6, 2016 05:19
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Your audio is really quiet, especially on Episode 3. I'm talking hello ear damage if I touch any other source of audio, just to get you up to consistently comprehensible.
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Jun 6, 2016 17:15
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I'm pleasantly surprised that Japan just wanted to friend you immediately. Even in actual history they got a lot from the Dutch, and during its closed-country phase the Dutch were the only European country allowed to conduct trade with them, albeit at a specific location. It's otherwise pretty unlike Civ!Japan, of course, but they are kinda far away from you.
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Jun 6, 2016 17:51
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AweStriker posted:I'm pleasantly surprised that Japan just wanted to friend you immediately. Even in actual history they got a lot from the Dutch, and during its closed-country phase the Dutch were the only European country allowed to conduct trade with them, albeit at a specific location. Didn't Japan also have some trade with the Portuguese? Japanese even has loanwords from Portuguese
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Jun 6, 2016 17:53
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Fish Noise posted:Your audio is really quiet, especially on Episode 3. I'm talking hello ear damage if I touch any other source of audio, just to get you up to consistently comprehensible. Wait. On Episode 3? I double and triple checked all the audio for that. If I play the video back it sounds okay both on Youtube and on my local. Goddamnit. Is anyone else having this problem? If you could tell me now before I get around to mixing tonight's audio and it's too late to change it would be a big help.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:00
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Alexeythegreat posted:Didn't Japan also have some trade with the Portuguese? Japanese even has loanwords from Portuguese 
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Jun 6, 2016 18:04
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Hirayuki posted:Yep, lots of trade and loanwords from the Dutch and the Portuguese. The Dutch contributed a lot of science/medical words (as did the Germans, later) and the Portuguese contributed a lot of terms related to Catholicism and stuff you'd trade, like fabrics, glass, beads, etc. In fact, the study of Western science and culture during the Edo period (while Japan was closed off) was known as "Dutch Studies," as the Dutch were pretty much the only Western power who were allowed to trade with Japan at the time.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:04
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One of my fondest memories of Civ was playing an online game where I rushed Stonehenge and was rewarded with a cry of rage through my speakers as Captain Fargle had picked Byzantium. 
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Jun 6, 2016 19:47
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Poil posted:One of my fondest memories of Civ was playing an online game where I rushed Stonehenge and was rewarded with a cry of rage through my speakers as Captain Fargle had picked Byzantium. That reminds me. Would multiplayer games be something you folks would be interested in watching as part of the LP?
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Jun 6, 2016 19:50
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Captain Fargle posted:That reminds me. Would multiplayer games be something you folks would be interested in watching as part of the LP? 
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Jun 6, 2016 19:54
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I'd be interested in multiplayer games and tutorials as I still don't understand how to play this game. But hey, it's your thread. Do what you want.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:55
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Captain Fargle posted:That reminds me. Would multiplayer games be something you folks would be interested in watching as part of the LP? I would not. Only watched the first episode so far, and I definitely appreciate when you go ahead and explain something despite your co-commentator saying the game is so old everybody knows things. For example, the polders being buildable on desert + river = floodplain, not all deserts. Your audio was pretty quiet.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:58
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Also youtube put a goddamned pucture frame around at least the first video, drastically shrinking the resolution. Why do you do these things to me youtube? :fs:
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Jun 6, 2016 20:28
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Captain Fargle posted:That reminds me. Would multiplayer games be something you folks would be interested in watching as part of the LP? Yes, half of the fun of Civ is the passive-aggressive multiplayer. There needs to be videos of people dicking each other over by strategic city placement.
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Jun 6, 2016 20:40
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I'm just here for the singleplayer stuff. But hey, if it's something other people would like to see, I don't really care if you make MP videos, as long as there's still SP stuff being shown off as well.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:36
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E07_GxyULY Episode 4! Now with custom thumbnail art I made and am rather pleased with and a 20 decibel boost to microphone intake. Does that solve the audio issues for you folks who were having it?
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Jun 6, 2016 23:01
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You're too loud now, at least to me. Near blew my ears out at the beginning.
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Jun 6, 2016 23:55
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i'd say you're a bit loud, though not "Blew my ears out". Besides that, good LP so far. You did forget a thread tag and there's so many good ones to choose.
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Jun 7, 2016 00:02
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The new volume is vastly better, I had to turn my speakers all the way up previously. And that's not a very pleasant or comforting thing to do.
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Jun 7, 2016 00:02
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Huzzah! posted:
There's no way to for me to change that now though, so I guess we're stuck with it.
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Jun 7, 2016 00:12
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Much improved, now comprehensible, slightly loud but not a problem personally. If 20's starting to push it for people, 15 would probably be fine.
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Jun 7, 2016 00:22
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Captain Fargle posted:There's no way to for me to change that now though, so I guess we're stuck with it. Shoot a message to a mod about it. They'll usually change it if you ask nicely.
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Oh, man, more Civ V stuff to watch. Looks like this is putting another dent in the time I should be using to finish the Portugal LP in a timely manner... In all seriousness, glad to see more of this here, and I'll be sure to follow along. Hirayuki posted:Yep, lots of trade and loanwords from the Dutch and the Portuguese. The Dutch contributed a lot of science/medical words (as did the Germans, later) and the Portuguese contributed a lot of terms related to Catholicism and stuff you'd trade, like fabrics, glass, beads, etc. The other major Portuguese influence on the language has to do with cooking. The Japanese word for bread, "pan," is based on the Portuguese "pćo." The food "tempura" is also supposedly originally based on the phrase "temperado" which means "seasoned" in Portuguese, though Wikipedia claims that this is more rumour and that the original phrase may have been Latin. Either way, the food culture of Portugal did bear some impact on the language. Captain Fargle posted:That reminds me. Would multiplayer games be something you folks would be interested in watching as part of the LP? Sounds good to me, as I have only tried multiplayer Civ V once and would like to get a sense of it from a different perspective.
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ModeWondershot posted:The other major Portuguese influence on the language has to do with cooking. The Japanese word for bread, "pan," is based on the Portuguese "pćo." The food "tempura" is also supposedly originally based on the phrase "temperado" which means "seasoned" in Portuguese, though Wikipedia claims that this is more rumour and that the original phrase may have been Latin. Either way, the food culture of Portugal did bear some impact on the language. But yes, there's a touch of Portuguese in Japan's food vocab as well. Little snacks and candies come to mind, like the rock-candy konpeitou and the tiny bouro cookies--stuff that would have stayed edible/tradeable on a sea voyage. Sorry--I have degrees in both Japanese and linguistics with a special interest in loanwords and have taught myself some Portuguese to boot. I'll shut up now.  More on-topic: I really enjoy Civ V, but I'm a rank beginner and awful at it. I follow Captain Fargle's threads to try to figure it all out, and I'm starting to think it might be helping. A little? Maybe?
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well, you can always bug a mod. Episode 3 in the playlist is also a bit boxed in. EditL Oh. I'd geuuess denouncing someone before you war them redudes your unreliability in the eyes of the AI. since it figures "well, they didn't declare out of no-where, you ony went to war with a declared 'enemy'. or it figures 'Well, they haven't denounced me, so they must be friends!' And did you ever explain why bananas are the worst tile? Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jun 7, 2016 |
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Jun 7, 2016 01:34
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Veloxyll posted:And did you ever explain why bananas are the worst tile? I don't think we did, at least not in detail. But the issue is the tile bonus the jungles give you vs. the tile bonus the plantation gives you. Bananas only appear on jungle tiles. Jungle tiles are 2 food naturally, no matter what's underneath as the Jungle over-writes the base bonus, the only thing it keeps are the hill defensive/vision modifiers and movement modifiers (kinda-sorta over-written by the Jungle stuff but if you have a bonus to moving on hills you can walk through jungle hills faster than flatland jungle tiles). Bananas give +1 food, another +1 if you have a granary. That's four food for an unimproved tile. Later on you can also build the university which gives +2 science for every jungle tile within a city's workable boundaries. So that's 4 food and 2 science on a single tile, basically a late-game grassland farm with 2 free science. And beakers are the god-tier resource. However if you have workers automated they'll "improve" the tile by chopping down the jungle and building a plantation. Likewise if you don't automate your workers and have AI suggestions turned on (what I do, even if I ignore them 99% of the time they can be a helpful reminder to connect a resource) there's a "build a plantation here!" tool tip taunting you the entire game. If you do improve the banana tile you get 2 food from the grassland (the jungle overwrites what's underneath, but it's pretty much guaranteed to be a grassland, or grassland hill, beneath), 1 food from the banana, 1 food from the granary....and later on 1 food from the plantation due to a very late game tech bonus that gives all plantations +1 food. So you get 5 food...which isn't bad, but the extra food isn't more valuable than the two science since that's only half a population point's worth of food (each pop point costs 2 food until/unless you take the Freedom tenent that makes specialist cost half). So in short: Banana tiles are actually pretty damned awesome if you don't improve them. Improving them actually downgrades them to merely "very good" tiles.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:35
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Also, wild bananas are a thing (plantains are only one specific type of banana, not the term for wild bananas), they just don't really look like the banana icon.
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Jun 7, 2016 06:48
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Don't Banana Plantations also reduce production by 1? Obviously this doesn't matter for Grassland tiles, but if that Jungle is on a 1F/1P Plains, then it basically becomes a 1F Tundra, which sucks.
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Jun 7, 2016 11:58
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Ilyich posted:Don't Banana Plantations also reduce production by 1? Obviously this doesn't matter for Grassland tiles, but if that Jungle is on a 1F/1P Plains, then it basically becomes a 1F Tundra, which sucks. It's not the Plantations but the resource itself. Even unimproved it still gives the -1 Production.
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Hirayuki posted:More on-topic: I really enjoy Civ V, but I'm a rank beginner and awful at it. You seek Marbozir.
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Alexeythegreat posted:You seek Marbozir. He plays Deity though, which is a much different ball game than anything under Immortal. AI gets 2 settlers in Deity.
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Alexeythegreat posted:You seek Marbozir. Marb has some good stuff but he plays REALLY slow and conservatively and he never loving turns off auto unit cycling. Jesus christ it's aggravating. Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpCPRCBfpN0 Today's episode! We're back to the original, live commentary although the audio issues mean Alkydere is very quiet. Can't really do anything about that. Sorry. I sound okay though which is apparently a loving miracle given what the previous two episodes sounded like before I edited them! Captain Fargle fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jun 7, 2016 |
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Jun 7, 2016 21:15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gXOLRpxJCM
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Rigged Death Trap posted:He plays Deity though, which is a much different ball game than anything under Immortal. Two settlers, a bunch of free techs, a starting army...and the AI treats itself like it's playing Chieftan, and gets the bonuses of that as well. http://www.civfanatics.com/book/export/html/691
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sound levels are still lacklustre  needs to be turned up .I am convinced your sound setup hates you.
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Veloxyll posted:sound levels are still lacklustre That's because we're back to the original recording. I haven't found any way to edit it in order to adjust the volume so it's this or I delete the original commentary entirely and record in post. (Which I'd feel pretty bad about doing to the whole LP because it would mean just cutting Alkydere out entirely.) EDIT: You know what? Since we're having so many audio issues and as of tomorrow I'm going to be away for a while without proper internet I'm going to upload and dump the rest of the Dutch LP into the thread tonight. I'll also put up the first episode or two of the next game, recorded with the new audio settings, and have Youtube do scheduled releases for it while I'm away. Captain Fargle fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Jun 9, 2016 13:52
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAyoU6uXIJs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wXvtu-27Bc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u1NFG2x6gM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ-wwPaaGg8 Here we go! The last four parts of the Dutch LP! Btw, do you folks prefer if I embed the videos or would you rather just have links?
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