Kimsemus posted:

VC in some ways are the most fun faction to play, hands down.

DiHK posted:

CA did an incredible job with unit balance this go-round; there's only a few units that could be called broken and even then it's not a deal breaker.

John Charity Spring posted:

I'm not sold on the Luminark. Yeah, it does pretty good single-target damage, but that's really unimpressive and never feels effective - 20 seconds between shots and each shot takes 1/10th of a giant's health off, wow, I'm so impressed. Whereas a battery of great cannons loving pummel that giant and keep it staggering and bellowing until it goes down, and can also wreak havoc on troop formations too.

Helstorm rockets, great cannons, steam tanks, and to a lesser extent mortars: good Empire artillery/war machines. Helblasters/Luminark: not that impressive I think.

madmac posted:

I actually enjoy playing Gelt and his starting army but seriously, Searing Doom is the one spell in the game so bad that it does literally nothing.

Third World Reggin posted:

grimgor too good and most mounts that fly for mages are for position not combat

Grumio posted:

"Summon the Elector Counts!"

Triskelli posted:

Olive Branch posted:

Has anyone been able to initiate an ambush as Empire or VC? Underway interceptions are always doable but my hidden stacks on 70% ambush chance territory keep getting spotted. Maybe I should just make a VC general with full points in "Ancient Cunning" and park outside settlements like some bastardized German horde against the Roman Empire.

Arcturas posted:

What's the best way to deal with light cavalry spam? In my empire campaign (now finished, thank god) the northern raiders constantly sent stacks with six plus units of throwing axe cavalry at me, and it is such a pain. I can't sent knights to charge them because they run away and have a second unit shoot my knights in the back. I can't ignore them or they chew up my artillery.

I eventually dealt by just sticking sacrificial spearman with shields on the back and flank of my army and ignoring their horrible casualties while crushing the line and then slowly chasing the cavalry until they gave up, but there has to be a better way. Pistoliers, but better used?

Even later on I just remembered to bring gunners or crossbows who dealt well with light missile cavalry, but that was usually easier because by that point there were only one or two units in each stack. (And I could justify camping the cavalry by my back line to deal with chaos Knights or whatever strong cavalry they tried to flank with)

Ilustforponydeath posted:

No raiding stance. Currently at 82% corruption, chaos themselves take attrition, but the developer golden boys just power through without a hitch.
They're a MUCH bigger threat than chaos itself at this point.

mornhaven posted:

They seem fine, though you could probably increase Rune of Grimnir, Grave ward, and Dodgy Geezer.

In Molay's Spells & Artifacts Dodgy Geezer gives a 20-25% speed boost, which does make a difference but doesn't seem broken. I haven't tried it with the mount mod though, so that might make it broken.

Deified Data posted:

So as VC what do you guys do after taking out Templehof and Schwartzwafen? I feel like I'm in a delicate diplomatic situation and I want to piss off as few people as possible.

Operant posted:

Playing my first Chaos campaign feels weird as hell. Am I supposed to be constantly running a negative income and just staving it off with the stupid amount of money I make from sacking cities?

Ammanas posted:

Great epic battles are rare in my campaigns unfortunately but finally had a good one against mousseline. My empire 1.5 stack vs 3.5 undead. Took 3 attempts but finally triumphed. It's pretty cool how wildly battles can swing based on player tactical choices.

First battle was a disaster due to the reinforcement bug, 2nd time was loss due to poor tactical alignment, 3rd time was victorious thanks to smart crossbow use

Mr. Wookums posted:

dunno if you're modding but I have never had this issue.

Chomp8645 posted:

I think "won't fight without 1+ stack advantage" is an exaggeration but the AI is definitely a big bitch boy who will run from a fair fight like it's trying to talk them about Jesus. If it can't gang up on your army to the point you have 30% of the bar or less it would rather just not fight at all and run around making a big rear end in a top hat of itself.

Deified Data posted:

Well that's pretty much totalwarhammer.txt, it's described all 3 of the campaigns I've completed so far.

How do yours typically play out? I can't imagine any scenario where the AI would ever engage battles it doesn't have a huge advantage over and run from anything else. I have no aggressive agents and movement boost in owned territory installed, but that's it.

Deified Data posted:

I have one currently in Templehof, and it seems to be working.

Deified Data posted:

Yep, pretty much. What they try to to for me is run far away and resettle a ruin somewhere. Block army is easily the most important hero skill in the game, IMO. I don't even try to ambush anymore, I just spam block army and try to funnel them into a waiting doomstack.

I mean I still love the game and plan on playing indefinitely but good, heated battles on open ground are so rare. Using lightning strike is really the only way to catch a single full stack with their pants down.

Jamwad Hilder posted:

Sorry if you already answered this, but what difficulty are you playing on? When I did my first campaign on normal to learn the ropes of the different factions it seemed like the AI just waited for me to come kill them. When I increased the difficulty I ended up in a lot more field battles, plenty of them were pretty even odds too.

drat Dirty Ape posted:

I think trolls are a little under powered for their cost and ridiculously terrible leadership currently. As it is now, as long as my army has a couple of siege weapons I almost never have to fight an enemy troll unit as long as I remember to target them first.

Dandywalken posted:

Man, Irondrakes loving suck. Their small unit size makes em useless for me, Im disappointed.

Anyone find a good way to employ them? They should have some sort of AoE value to bathe a unit in damage, since it seems they kinda just kinda piss in a stream of piss rather than 'palm.

Grognan posted:

It is the Uber of voip and it doesn't work well and it bundles with adware. The incentive program has them shilling it everywhere they can. It is not a good product.

Kestral posted:

The faction as a whole doesn't seem to have anything you could call a murder machine. Every other faction has a unit that you can point to and say, “This thing is good,” like demigryphs, blood knights, ironbreakers, minotaurs, etc. Something that, if you could pack a silly endgame victory-lap army full of it, would trivialize the campaign. Not so much with Athel Loren, whose very best units seem only to rise to the level of "I would field this and not expect to get steamrolled." Further tests continue to suggest that Wardancers and Wildwood Rangers are the cream of the crop, and they're not all that exciting.

Wafflecopper posted:

I know this is old news, but holy gently caress why is the encyclopedia so loving bad? Why can't I mouse over traits like Forest Stalker and Master Ambusher to see what they actually do? It's loving 2016 CA, and you've been making games since 2000. That's sixteen years as a professional video game developing company. This poo poo is UI 101, how the gently caress do you not know how to do this by now? I have zero experience designing UIs and I could do a better job. Holy loving poo poo fire the drooling retards you have designing this crap and hire someone who has some idea what the gently caress they are doing.

Kestral posted:

Has anyone determined whether the faction-wide effects of Athel Loren buildings stack? Building space is tight, but I will happily make room if it's possible to get +8 ranks to Wardancer recruits.

fnordcircle posted:

If WoC and Wuzzrag are any indicator, fighting your own race constantly gets old very fast.

SickZip posted:

Someone make a mod that makes everyone require 12 points for lightning strike. Except Wood Elves. Beastmen, and Night Goblins commanders who get the current default position of 6.

Also make the blue skills largely not garbage

Kaza42 posted:

Does anyone have any preferred mods for making the chaos invasion harder? Even when I'm playing in the south and ignoring it, it tends to get crushed around Talabheim/Middenheim rather than being a real threat

sassassin posted:

What's the earliest you can get the Lady in the Lake tech? Turn 17?

Wood Elves keep Brettonia around as a buffer in the lore and it's for damned good reason imo.

Martout posted:

Yep, mine killed all 4 Beastmen lords in the final oak battle just now.

I lost 29 dudes total, starting to think Welfs might be a bit too strong tbh!

Panfilo posted:

I wish caster legendaries like Gelt and that Necromancer dude had better versions of existing spells. I mean look at what they did with Rune lords; their three active runes are twice as effective as their runesmith counterparts.

Deified Data posted:

Anyone have a favorite mod to spice up the old LLs?