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Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
they showed two shrines and shrines are mini dungeons with like one puzzle and then you're done

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Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Jsor posted:

No, they've only shown shrines which are little mini dungeons where you get infinite use items.

wait are items not normally infinite use

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
right ok, i didn't realize that you had infinite arrows / bow in shrines

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

ArmyOfMidgets posted:

So. NWPlayer, hacker that is best known for datamining Splatoon and uncovering and making videos of weapons before they came out, basically is helping out a guy leak out the E3 demo. This guy just shoved an SD card into a Wii U at E3, copy/pasted the 16gig demo and now they're working together to get it out there, apparently it'll be out tomorrow and you'll need a modded Wii U for that.

lmao, no. the booths don't have consoles visible, they're development units and behind lock and key.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
i was at work all day so are there any archives of the stream yet i can catch up with

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
everything i have seen looks good except the last shrine they showed. half life 2 wants its rigged physics puzzles back

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

JOHN CENA posted:

This game sold me an NX on day one.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-on-wii-u-and-nx-will-be-t/1100-6440876/

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Do people think this game looks bad??? I don't get it

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Kassad posted:

They do sort of know where you'll go first, though. It doesn't look like you can leave the plateau area until after you've got the bombs, magnet and freeze tools and the old guy gives you the glider.

Bill said he got the glider and then jumped off and never unlocked a warp point. Oops.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
now what incentive will the speedrunners choose for the botw charity marathon run

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
and none of that will technically be sequence breaking

yes, i agree, this game is really looks really fun and good

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Jsor posted:

I didn't think so, but I did note during the streams that the music that plays while fighting the guardians sounds a ton like the music when you fight twilit monsters. It's that exact frantic, discordant set of sounds.

what if, the twili didnt make the guardians, but the guardians made the twili???

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Rocketlex posted:

I want David Cage to make a Kirby game.

Anyway, I think the weirdest thing about this game is the idea of Nintendo making a heavily physics-based game. Playing around with physics objects really isn't the kind of gameplay Nintendo's done in the past, at least not on this scale. It's so strange to imagine solving Half-Life-esque physics puzzles to beat a Zelda dungeon.

I even started writing an article talking about how Nintendo never does physics but now I have to scrap it.

http://magcius.github.io/npx.js/npx.html

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

thanks alot assbag posted:

Skyward Sword had this too. Does no one remember?

Not that it's not cool or anything.

noone remembers skyward sword

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
I want Mario to have a speaking role.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/CrushedGAF/status/743205919048273920

aonuma: the gamepad is a car wreck

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
30m day/night cycle on Nintendo's website.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/zelda/movie/top.mp4

6:30 - something huge moving on the mountains??
16:30 - meteorite falls to the ground??

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
i'm getting the video game on the wii u because it won't be any different and i alreaedy have a wii u

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

greatn posted:

Well the graphics will be different

says who? not aonuma

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-on-wii-u-and-nx-will-be-t/1100-6440876/

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
yeah, there are close to 300 people working on this game alone, from four different companies, it's absolutely insane. must be one of the biggest budgets for any video game, ever.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
I thought watch underscore dogs, which was one of Ubi's biggest games, had a reported 250 people on it?

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Hey, it's better than the Wii U prototype.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Jonas Albrecht posted:

What is this?

Nobody knows. It appeared as part of a giant 30 minute long backdrop on the Japanese website for the game.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiAAJQ6ZMdY

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Amppelix posted:

Is it? I didn't think anything of it until everyone started pointing it out. What's so weird?

Nintendo has never included any physics engine in their games until now

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
I don't like SS's combat because it's "do the correct swing every time", no options about strategy. It's not really engaging when it tells you exactly what to do, and you really don't have any options. It's long, boring, and drawn out. The only time it worked well was with Girahim where the game didn't telegraph things for you 100% and you had some options as to what to do.

Also, Fitts' Law says that in order to perform a swing, there's first an anticipation pre-swing, and sometimes the game picks that up and swings in the wrong direction.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
No, people just didn't realize that there was a key at the bottom of the middle room; it was a puzzle. The 3DS version fixed this by having the camera pan on that block when you raised the water afterwards.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
That's the second to last dungeon. You're in the home stretch.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Waltzing Along posted:

GC ... did not have dual analog sticks

do you even know what a gamecube is

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

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Fun Shoe
the implication is that with minor tweaks you can make SS into a good game, but no minor tweaks would make TP a good game.

i disagree, i think they both have The Good Part and also lovely Unfixable Zelda Moment that makes me sigh but that's just my opinion.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

SylvainMustach posted:

So I asked in the old WiiU thread when TP was supposed to get fun.

I kind of have the reversal of that question.

When is Skyward Sword supposed to become un-fun?

Because I'm enjoying the hell out of it and I actually dont dislike the motion controls. For what it's worth, the motion controls never gelled in Star Fox for me so it's not like they're something I use often or have a bias towards. But it feels alright here.

Does this game take a huge nose dive that I should be prepared for or what?

yeah basically. it eventually becomes boss refights, escort quests with bad ai, sneaking missions, and collectathons with bad swimming controls. it's like they thought the game was just too fun so they put in a bunch of those things everybody hates.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
the dungeon itself owns but then it just has to go with a boss that keeps making dreamworks faces at you

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
With Wind Waker, every item has multiple clever uses and it really contributes to the game as a whole. Twilight Princess's items aren't used after the dungeon they're contained in except for that one recall puzzle.

Wind Waker's dungeons range from unmemorable to OK. The quality of Twilight Princess's dungeons are on par with OoT / MM.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
is barrier skip RTA practical yet

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Art direction of Twilight Princess was to be noisy and brown, with crazy multiply blending for the lights to make everything bloom. Even the places that aren't brown, like the fishing pond, tend to use streaky shading giving everything shimmering highlights.

It was the style at the time. It hasn't aged well.

Wind Waker used pastel, muted colors and flat, detailless textures to give a clean look. It ages really well.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Breath of the Wild seems to be shaping up to have nice ambiance as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IyjIMe2R78

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Switch has been confirmed for March 2017. BotW has not been given a date other than just "2017".

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Hey Fingercuffs posted:

So some weird Legend of Zelda news today. Nintendo is partnering with Scrap to do a LoZ Escape room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyxHSGPIxy8

http://scrapzelda.com/

Of course it's not coming reasonably close to me but for those of you close to the 8 cities it is coming to go have some fun with up to 6 people.

oh nice it's in my city -- let me see if I can get some coworkers to go. any goons in SF want to team up?

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Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
I think Majora's Mask is one of those games that is greatly improved the second time around. While today, you know what you're getting into, you know that there are four dungeons, you know how the sidequests work, etc., a first time player doesn't know anything about the game or how it's put together. The time system sort of discourages exploration, since you lose all your resources at the end of a cycle, no matter what. Any treasures you find are going to disappear, and you have no idea if when you explore, you're going to end up in a small side area, or a giant sidequest that could waste a day and reset all the progress on your half-finished dungeon you wanted to take a break from.

Every player, after resetting after beating Ikana Swamp for the first time and noticing everything being gloomy and reset, is going to say "ugh, I have to do that again?" and put the game down.

Knowing how the game works, it's a lot of fun, but it's not kind to first-time players, and I can definitely see it being incredibly harsh and unfun for someone who just wanted Ocarina of Time's sequel.

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