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http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/06/digging-into-the-dev-documentation-for-apfs-apples-new-file-system/ APFS is apple's new filesystem and replacement for HFS+, and it's loving awesome  some of the features it includes: - write coalescing with copy-on-write - snapshotting/cloning - full disk encryption (AES-XTS and AES-CBC) with multiple modes of operation - space sharing - asynchronous TRIM - fast directory sizing we all know HFS+ is Dog poo poo Garbage, and it's pretty sick that there's finally a viable replacement. currently it's only a developer preview and lacks a lot of functionality that will probably be a dealbreaker for most users (time machine, filevault, etc), and it can't be used as a startup disk yet, but you can still try it on other disks and play around with it also, filesystem chat? RISCy Business fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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A Pussy Fart Smell
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im afraid of all the bad software thats going to break when they move to a case sensitive file system
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online friend posted:http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/06/digging-into-the-dev-documentation-for-apfs-apples-new-file-system/ in the docs, every time cow is mentioned but once it goes out of the way to qualify it with 'cow metadata', and the other spot is for the file/dir clone feature. it makes me think it's not cow all the time like zfs or bttrfs, just when you use the clone thing and the metadata.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:im afraid of all the bad software thats going to break when they move to a case sensitive file system like afaik everything made by adobe
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Citizen Tayne posted:A Pussy Fart Smell A Piece of loving poo poo
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will I get more hard drive space like when I upgraded my fat 16 to fat 32 that one time back in the 1990s? :hanson:
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We were so close to getting official ZFS support in OSX, gently caress Oracle for crushing that dream 
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error1 posted:We were so close to getting official ZFS support in OSX, gently caress Oracle for crushing that dream ZFS and APFS can both be good. this is not a zero-sum game
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Dr. Honked posted:A Piece of loving poo poo Anal Pustule and Fissure System
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Pardot posted:in the docs, every time cow is mentioned but once it goes out of the way to qualify it with 'cow metadata', and the other spot is for the file/dir clone feature. it makes me think it's not cow all the time like zfs or bttrfs, just when you use the clone thing and the metadata. 
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:im afraid of all the bad software thats going to break when they move to a case sensitive file system HFS+ can be formatted in case sensitive mode. everything is hilariously broken if you try to use it for anything non-unixy. this has to be a beta limitation, no way in hell they can ship a case sensitive FS now. I'm not sure why you would even want to.
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Pardot posted:in the docs, every time cow is mentioned but once it goes out of the way to qualify it with 'cow metadata', and the other spot is for the file/dir clone feature. it makes me think it's not cow all the time like zfs or bttrfs, just when you use the clone thing and the metadata. metadata is always cow. data is when it's needed, like when there's a snapshot retaining a copy of the original. also unlike zfs the snapshots seem to be read only, there is only one writable version. seems good enough for a file system for phones and laptops.
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apfs... great filesystem for all those people who use os x... oh wait. lol
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Jun 16, 2016 23:14
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Case Sensitive File Systems are dogshit garbage.
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Powercrazy posted:Case Sensitive File Systems are dogshit garbage. excuse me, the concept of "case" does not apply to sequences of arbitrary bytes in which everything is valid except 0x00 and 0x2F
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The Management posted:HFS+ can be formatted in case sensitive mode. everything is hilariously broken if you try to use it for anything non-unixy. Breaking aggressively incorrect software is a virtue. It's not like apps that need to like Spotlight/Finder or even NSFileManager can't just transparently provide the case-insensitivity for user convenience.
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Powercrazy posted:Case Sensitive File Systems are dogshit garbage. symbolic names for files are dogshit garbage for dumb humans. we should just use inode numbers for everything.
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case insensitive poo poo is dumb
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:case insensitive poo poo is dumb why?
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my use case requires I have both file.txt and File.txt in the same directory!
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FS-level case insensitivity as implemented is bigotry. rear end.jpg and aß.jpg should be the same and olé.txt and OLÉ.txt and πooп.png and ΠooП.png and カカ.gif and かか.gif
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it's not apple's fault that other languages/cultures failed to adopt ascii, the superior text encoding.
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GameCube posted:apfs... great filesystem for all those people who use os x... oh wait. lol it's apparently going to be used on all apple devices, not just macOS
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emoji posted:FS-level case insensitivity as implemented is bigotry. well they should have invented it first then every international pilot and air traffic controller in the world speak english because the wright brother did
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emoji posted:FS-level case insensitivity as implemented is bigotry.
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could this really unlock the true potential of the finder? does this mean i wont have to eject things before unplugging them? will it make itunes better?
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:could this really unlock the true potential of the finder? 2. maybe 3. no
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emoji posted:Wow racial inequality
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differences with ext4? op?
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where's the data integrity checks
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ComradeCosmobot posted:where's the data integrity checks 
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d&d is a weird place
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ComradeCosmobot posted:d&d is a weird place u wanna send me some of ur fav pov occulus hentai?
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Smythe posted:u wanna send me some of ur fav pov occulus hentai? srry im not really into giantess porn
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ComradeCosmobot posted:srry im not really into giantess porn NOT cabbagepots parachute spotted
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