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knowing apples history that's probably a bad assumption on my part
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cremnob posted:why would apple ever use anyone else's filesystem in 2016 especially some ancient legacy poo poo like ntfs
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Jun 17, 2016 19:32
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lol @ a bunch of Linux losers hating on ntfs. go back to your hosed up file systems that don't even have working permissions, let alone auditing, encryption, or compression.
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Jun 17, 2016 19:34
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ACLs are hard!
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Jun 17, 2016 19:42
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as far as I can tell NTFS is actually p deece but so is ext4??
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Jun 17, 2016 20:33
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NTFS is better than ext4 because ext4 was designed with Linux and the limitations of Linux in mind.
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I wouldn't call NTFS ACL permissions "working" Try updating permissions for a volume that has a couple million files on it, or enabling auditing at all, god help you if you actually use compression or encryption. NTFS will poo poo the bed so fast it's not even funny. Corrupted volume shadow copies are also a constant headache, and it's SO loving slow! Good luck backing up your data! Two of my favorite retarded windows-as-a-fileserver things is that mounted folders do not support browsing previous versions of files, it MUST have a drive letter: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753975(v=ws.11).aspx And if you have a directory full of user homes Explorer will show all of them as "My Documents" instead of the real subdirectory name http://serverfault.com/questions/566279/shared-home-folders-on-file-server-listed-as-my-documents Especially that last one is hilarious because Microsoft pretty much said "eh, it's too complicated to fix so we won't" on their own technet forums
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the way permissions work is correct because each item needs a security descriptor otherwise the client has to compute it from parent descriptors every time. also sounds like you've got a bad setup or something cause I've never had a problem w/ ntfs or file shares. Also wrt the home directories you are doing it really wrong somehow. you've got a shared drive and each folder is somehow flagged as a my documents link (which is a special link) instead of being a regular folder. Ive never seen user homes implemented in a way that would do what you're seeing.
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Jun 17, 2016 20:41
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a real good way to do user homes nowadays is to mount a vhd for it from the network.
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NTFS sucks.
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Jun 17, 2016 21:01
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Nope. NTFS is the best
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Jun 17, 2016 21:04
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Shaggar posted:the way permissions work is correct because each item needs a security descriptor otherwise the client has to compute it from parent descriptors every time. i'm p sure the documents and other "special" shell folders are just defined by the contents of the desktop.ini file within, still. it's not a special folder attribute or anything, just data read from a file within the container so yeah, you could cause that by having some idiotic folder redirection setting that put everyone's "document" folders in the same place, rather than the bog standard of giving each profile a subfolder based on the username
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Jun 17, 2016 21:06
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Shaggar posted:Nope. NTFS is the best it sucks, actually.
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Jun 17, 2016 21:06
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praying to the posting gods to remove shaggar from this hallowed thread
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Jun 17, 2016 21:07
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online friend posted:it sucks, actually. yeah it gobbles a large one, and yet it's better than all the alternatives
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Jun 17, 2016 21:08
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infernal machines posted:i'm p sure the documents and other "special" shell folders are just defined by the contents of the desktop.ini file within, still. it's not a special folder attribute or anything, just data read from a file within the container The idiotic folder redirection is built right into AD, actually  It's the established standard since forever, both because lots of software doesn't support UNC so you need to map the path as a drive letter, and if generally want users to see as little as possible of the world outside of their little box of user data. The site specific fuckup might be to redirect My Documents directly to the user folder via GPO instead of a Documents subdirectory but it seems like a very common annoyance. The best part is that it didn't appear on windows 2003, but the new behaviour has been the same since Vista, and still exists in Windows 10 / Server 2016 afaik. I haven't bothered looking into it too much, I just use a different utility than explorer.exe to browse those user directories.
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The Free Dictionary has not been updated yet Acronym Definition APFS Australian Pink Floyd Show APFS Apparent Places of Fundamental Stars APFS Animal Production Food Safety (USDA) APFS Afternoon Programmes Follow Shortly (website) APFS Action Plan for Financial Services (EU) APFS Armour Piercing Fin Stabilized (ammunition
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Jun 17, 2016 21:48
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error1 posted:The idiotic folder redirection is built right into AD, actually lmao. what's it like back in 2004? you know there's going to be a black president in four years? crazy right? but seriously, that thing in ad is legacy as hell, you don't use that for a user profile or shell folders unless you want poo poo to break. you use folder redirection via gpo to map the profile folder to a unc path or if you have RDS/VDI use user profile disks like shaggs said aslong as you don't override the defaults and push everyone's documents folder into the same location what was described simply doesn't happen and windows handles the appropriate folder ACLs on its own
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Jun 17, 2016 21:58
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i don't know what the hell you're using that doesn't support unc paths but functions properly on windows 7, but it probably sucks
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Jun 17, 2016 22:05
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infernal machines posted:it probably sucks tbf this applies to most software
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:tbf this applies to most software also most posters
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Jun 17, 2016 22:13
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lol drive letters.
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Jun 17, 2016 23:28
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zfs stops working when your file system is 80% full lol
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Jun 18, 2016 00:07
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zfs takes massive amounts of memory
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zfs is the absolute best btrfs is getting there apfs sounds like apple catching up to 2006 level technology but they will hail it as the most advanced fs of all time ntfs has better permissions than any of the other ones but its garbo otherwise
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Jun 18, 2016 08:19
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spankmeister posted:
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Check it out! Now you pay for something with the credit card info you already entered on [a website that isn't Amazon or Google or PayPal]!
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Jun 18, 2016 15:12
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it would be the most advanced fs in a consumer device that a human would want to use, yes
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Jun 18, 2016 15:16
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:it would be the most advanced fs in a consumer device that a human would want to use, yes
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:it would be the most advanced fs in a consumer device that a human would want to use, yes Consume this, Bitch.
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Jun 18, 2016 17:03
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Shaggar posted:trash for Linux mods
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Jun 18, 2016 17:49
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spankmeister posted:zfs is the absolute best btrfs is rly bad
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Jun 19, 2016 01:36
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is apfs apple fs or app fs
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btrfs kernel panicked my laptop like 8/10 times i booted it so gently caress btrfs
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apfs is the most advanced file system ever created and the best
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Jun 19, 2016 06:12
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mishaq posted:apfs is the most advanced file system ever created this is not true mishaq posted:and the best probably the best tool for the job, yes.
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Jun 19, 2016 06:39
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The Management posted:this is not true WOT is the best?????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Jun 19, 2016 07:46
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no, the best file system was invented in 1975 by judy, a 73 year old retired librarian. she used it to catalogue her recipes.
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The only reason Linux losers don't use NTFS by default is because most distros have extremely bad compatibility so they're forced to use extremely inefficient and slow trash like ext3 and ext4. Or maybe its not the file systems fault but the fault of insanely poor I/O software. At the end of the day though Windows just reads and writes files way faster than free as in garbage software.
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whatever happened to WinFS
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