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Should I stay or should I go?
This poll is closed.
Please stay 195 31.20%
Go away 136 21.76%
Who cares? 99 15.84%
gently caress you op, your soccer sucks and your tea tastes like poo poo! 195 31.20%
Total: 625 votes
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Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
"NO SECOND REFERENDUM" SAYS MARGARET THATCHER THERESA MAY!

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:captainpop: HOLY gently caress! DAVID CAMERON RESIGNS! :captainpop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXNV3Ad0qQ0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh0ac5HUpDU

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FINAL RESULTS:

Moral of the story: NEVER accept pig blowjobs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqFN3NJjhnU

Somewhere in New York, John Oliver is crying forever.

UK LEAVES EU FOR GOOD!

LEAVE: 17,410,742

REMAIN: 16,141,241

382/382 declared

BBC results

The Guardian results



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Britain has a bad track record of keeping isles and nations happy, two years ago they had to stop Scotland from splitting up even though they've always been loving with them for centuries, this year they got so pissed off of never winning a single Euro League, or a Eurovision since Making Your Mind Up, they decided "you know what, gently caress this" and now they want to leave the EU for good.

In 24 hours, Britain has to vote whether they want to stay or leave the European Union, but if you're outside the UK, why should you care what we think? Mainly because it's fun for the rest of the world to watch us brits tear ourselves apart over it. Ladies and gentlemen, THIS IS BREXIT WATCH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLQJVKP3YlM

Several hours ago, The Telegraph ran an article on the current odds of the EU referendum. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/20/eu-referendum-poll-tracker-and-odds1/

:( okay maybe that doesn't show a clear view of which side's winning, but as you can see the UK are really stumped on which vote matters most.

Let's weigh the pros and cons for either side.

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VOTE STAY

PROS -

The purpose of the European Union is that all nations in the Europe continent are joined together so that:

quote:

People, goods, services, and money can move around the EU as freely as within a single country.
http://europa.eu/pol/singl/index_en.htm

Ironically, almost every other European country abandoned their local currency to start using the Euro (EUR) currency...except for the UK who still use the GBP sterling (and it's worth 30 pence more than the EUR in its current state).

If Britain leaves, not only will they kick out EU citizens, but imported goods would have to jump a few hurdles just to ship them to the UK. So that would be a bit of a letdown. :ohdear:

Also Britain gets a good rep for allowing immigrants into the country, compared to the US where they have to pay up if they want to stay in American soil. Please correct me if I hosed up on US border rules

Of course the EU doesn't want Britain to leave, but so do other countries around the world like Japan, Canada, Israel, India, China, and America. Except Russia for some reason.

Countries like Albania, Macedonia, Serbia, Turkey, and Montenegro are now potential candidates that could be joining the EU in the future, so the UK might have even more integrated citizens in their country (for better or for worse, job-wise, but that would get too complicated) and we might even get some new Eurostar stations.

http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance/international/non_eu/candidate/index_en.htm

CONS -

Nothing personal, but sometimes the voters who want to stay might come off as a bit extremist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgKHSNqxa8

Although I do like John Oliver and I think his segments are funny and makes valid points here and there, this one was very biased, and he doesn't even live in the UK anymore, so does he even have a vote or say in the matter?

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/21/11989128/john-oliver-brexit-rant-postponed-uk

:ohdear: Oh well at least he tried.

This wasn't the only referendum topic he's covered:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YkLPxQp_y0

Even if Britain stays, how does that change the state of policies in the EU overall? Do the UK and Europe improve on their rules and regulations? Will they abandon the GBP for good? Or worse, will both parties do nothing and go back where they started like with Scotland? Unless the EU make some changes for the better to keep a strong bond with Britain, maybe this vote won't make any difference.

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VOTE LEAVE

PROS -

The ones who want to leave feel they're losing control when they're partnered with other european countries, they feel UK laws are overruled by EU laws, Britain would gain independence and start implementing its own rules if it decides to leave.

Britain would supposedly be allowed to do independent trade deals with growing economies and countries like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, China, and India without getting permission from the rest of the EU.

http://news.cbi.org.uk/business-issues/uk-and-the-european-union/eu-business-facts/10-facts-about-eu-trade-deals-pdf/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/19/what-would-brexit-mean-for-british-trade/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36078092

One major point leavers bring up is the UK pays £350 million per week to the EU instead of the NHS, the vote could affect whether Britain can keep doing free health care or they'll have to start privatising hospitals.

CONS -

The £350 million per week claim isn't entirely true, it's actually down to about £248 million per week. Also the EU sent a budget of £4.4 billion to the UK last year.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2016/may/23/does-the-eu-really-cost-the-uk-350m-a-week
http://infacts.org/uk-doesnt-send-eu-350m-a-week-or-55m-a-day/
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/483344/EU_finances_2015_final_web_09122015.pdf#page=18

Leaving would presumably cut off connections and transport to other EU countries like France and Belgium, so bye bye Eurostar! :wave:

One major downside is Nigel Farage of UKIP is supporting the Leave campaign. If you have no idea who he is, congrats on avoiding the general election last year. Nigel Farage is an extremely racist bigot who gets little to no love from anyone. You'd be wrong to say he's the UK version of Trump (because that's Sir Alan Sugar) but he does get an equally bad rep as him. He's far worse than Nick Griffin and BNP. Just to give you a taste of how loathed he is, watch him insult the audience during the BBC debate last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7DrRDro4So

By the end of the debate, he was left all alone. :smuggo:

To make matters even worse, one supporter murdered Jo Cox, an MP who supported the Stay campaign, this was a tragic incident that never should've physically harmed anyone and could make the Leave campaign lose the winning vote.

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Well that's all the information gathered from both parties, what's Britain going to do next? Could they possibly screw themselves over? Find out on 23rd of June! :cheers:


as requested by A ILL BREAKFAST

Junior Jr. fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Aug 31, 2016

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Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

Ork of Fiction posted:

He's more propaganda than comedy now. It's pretty terrible, losing all respect for a guy who was a clown to begin with.

huh that reminds of another comedy turned propaganda machine.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

Y-Hat posted:

i want wales to win Euro 2016 so they can start the campaign to make this a reality. also because gareth bale owns

ramsey is a prick who can suck a dick

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
I'm still waiting for an article where J.K. Rowling bribes donates a large sum of money to ensure that the majority of the UK's population vote to stay.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

8 track betamax posted:

Only one thing is certain and that is that this thread should brEXIT gbs!

so I take it you vote leave

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

Wurzag posted:

Lol if you think Corbyn will ever be prime minister

It's a shame, he looks like Britain's bernie sanders.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

RobattoJesus posted:

If we "Bremain" then I agree, but his only shot is that we Brexit and then the entire country tanks so hard that people will do anything to get rid of the Tories (which in our 2 party system means Labour)

I'm seriously fed up with Cameron, all he's done is gently caress us over for 6 years and I just want him gone.

Even if there's a decision that could gently caress up our nation permanently, I'd do it if it's at his expense.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

Tramadol Junkie posted:

On the poll station website Leave is 81% - Remain %16

http://www.pollstation.uk/eu-referendum/poll/

:eyepop:

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Think of the EU as a cashier, they make the UK pay up a weekly fee, and in return they give them back some pocket change to fix up their own country.

What I'm getting at is the EU is kind of a loan shark.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

Kitchner posted:

The best reason to vote remain is it will kill the career of Boris Johnson.

Oh and that if we leave families in the UK will be £1,000 a year worse off by 2030.

Better yet, we leave and kill off Cameron's career.

Boris's was already gone.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Just saw thunder and lightning outside my window. Holy poo poo the EU storm is brewing! :eyepop:

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
IT'S NOW 23 JUNE, 12AM IN LONDON! BRITAIN HAS TO MAKE THE CALL!

If you're a UK goon, polling stations around the country will be open from 7AM till 10PM! (GMT)

NOW GET VOTING!

Junior Jr. fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jun 23, 2016

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

White Phosphorus posted:

make Britain Great Again!

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

Tramadol Junkie posted:

I still got an onlive box and controller.

I'd feel sorry for you, except no cared about onlive for years.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

Tramadol Junkie posted:

It still in the box, console & controller, well looked after. I am only asking my dignity back

ftfy

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Well I finally got off my arse and voted...but I'm not saying which one until the results come in. :smuggo:

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
THE POLLS ARE NOW CLOSED!

Now let's see if we've hosed up our nation or not.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Because I've got nothing else to do, I'm going to pull an all nighter checking the results until the morning. The OP will be constantly updated with the current Leave and Remain votes.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

Placid Marmot posted:

Constantly updating the OP doesn't sound like a practical thing to do. Why not just link to the BBC results?

Trying to find an embed version of the results to post in OP.

This is the best link I could find.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Looks like Gibraltar is 84% remain.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

Actually that's a better link. Updated it in the OP now.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
19,322 votes REMAIN for Gibraltar.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Newcastle upon Tyne voted 50.7% REMAIN

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Orkney Islands 63% REMAIN

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Clackmannanshire vote 58% REMAIN.

Yes they're actually called that.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Sunderland have voted 65% LEAVE

The woman confirming this looks like she's about to cry. :ohdear:

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Gonna take a short break for a bit, will be back to check results very soon.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Looks like we will be using the Euro after all.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Oh gently caress now I lost count of which boroughs left, I'll have to pick up and count the results and double-check them.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

spud posted:

loving a pig.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

lol-han

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Hartlepool votes 70% LEAVE

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
I'm not posting every borough, just finding the biggest ones that matter because they'll hold the most votes.

When we get to London for example.

Oh and Basildon left btw.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Also don't we have Goonroom for IRC?

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
It's so annoying the BBC keep pulling down the results as boroughs finish counting votes, they're making it harder for me to keep the OP accurate.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
So Leave are leading by over 110,000 votes.

Maybe Remain might turn the tables though.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
If I know american news stations like CSPAN and CNN, especially FOX news, they might as well be overexaggerating a debate they're not even part of.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
It's just fun seeing the percentages keep going apeshit. Nobody can give an educated estimate at this point.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Okay, clearly counting each region was a bad idea, it's just confusing overall. I'm just counting the total votes and keep it more simpler.

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Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
since when did Lindsay think she was a UK citizen all of a sudden?

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