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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
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What is our next PM Angela Leadstrom's policy on Scotland? Would she give us indyref 2, or is she going to send the tanks in?
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Time to party like its 1956!
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Jul 9, 2016 14:26
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So I saw the headlines on the Tory papers today were all about May going to Scotland to talk to Nicola to save the union. Is she going to let us stay in the EU? Or maybe give Holyrood full control of immigration policy? Change Barnett to give us more money? Full communism now? I can't think of anything remotely plausible that she could offer us that would make up for Brexit.
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Jul 15, 2016 16:52
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bitterandtwisted posted:How's Ireland/NI going to work after Brexit in terms of free movement? I guess Scotland/rUK would be the same in the event of independence? Pretty sure they promised there would be an open border with the south, but that they would also simultaneously somehow stop free movement with the rest of the EU. Whats to stop an Eastern European EU migrant from perfectly legally flying to Ireland and strolling across the border, I do not know.
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Jul 16, 2016 12:23
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Extreme0 posted:To be fair. Who the fucks wants to live in the UK now when you land in Ireland? It's true. Turns out all we had to do to stop immigrants wanting to come here was to destroy everything good about Britain.
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Jul 16, 2016 13:27
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If Jedit said the SNP were pro independence I'd ask for another source. We got any Indy ref 2 polls?
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Jul 24, 2016 16:11
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That poll is very disappointing. So now I suppose if there is no shift in opinion the best outcome will be a soft Brexit that keeps freedom of movement and common market access, and we are reliant on a bunch of xenophobic Brexiteer clowns to negotiate this. loving hell.
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Jul 30, 2016 18:21
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I guess we will have to wait until article 50 is invoked before most Brexiters are shaken out of this fantasy that they can get common market access without accepting freedom of movement or paying into the EU budget. And then we can see what a real deal would look like and respond accordingly. I had pretty much assumed the path to independence was clear so I'm not enjoying all this uncertainty. Jedit posted:No, it suggests that the number of Remain/No voters is roughly the same as the number of Leave/Yes voters. What? I don't understand your point. marktheando fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jul 30, 2016 |
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Jul 30, 2016 18:40
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Are we independent yet?
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Dec 31, 2016 17:50
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baronvonsabre posted:No worries, I should have been clearer on which I meant at the outset. Yeah absolutely. Sturgeon is the only major party leader who has been handling this whole disaster competently. She obviously has her eye on independence but the right thing to do, regardless of your views on independence, is to fight hard for single market membership and freedom of movement. That Labour aren't doing the same, and are instead pandering to xenophobes, is depressing.
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Jan 17, 2017 18:18
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I'm pretty amused that Pissflaps has been obsessively posting about Scottish Independence for several years now and has never even talked to an Indy supporter IRL.
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Feb 16, 2017 13:40
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Pissflaps posted:Is every Yes voter a Scottish nationalist now? Well that depends on what you mean by Scottish nationalist, doesn't it. I assumed you meant in in the broad sense of anyone who supports Scottish independence since you have used it that way in the past. So you have spoken to Yes voters IRL? And discussed the referendum with them?
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Feb 16, 2017 14:07
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Well it would be quite funny, yes. So by Scottish nationalist do you just mean SNP members? Because the ones I know are the the opposite of Trumpy.
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Feb 16, 2017 14:17
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I reckon they are trying to decide between an early referendum as part of the Brexit process so we won't have to leave the EU, or a late one after Brexit with a better chance of winning.
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Feb 20, 2017 14:41
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Pissflaps posted:Scotland will have to 'join' the EU one way or another. If Brexit is quick (i.e. follows the two year timetable) I don't see how there's enough time for Scotland to negotiate its entry to the EU without spending some time outside of both the UK and the EU. jBrereton posted:hahahahahahaha There would need to be some interim arrangement, but EU people have said it would be possible. The question is though, is if it's winnable before the worst of the Brexit chaos happens.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:05
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It's impressive that May can give a speech that's so far removed from reality. Britain is kind, generous and outward looking? Lmao Also Pissflaps you are going to have a kid? I could have sworn you said your wife gave birth a few months back. Is this a second kid?
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Mar 27, 2017 13:51
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Pissflaps posted:Certain individuals in this forum cannot be trusted with even the scantest personal information but yes this is a second child, though my wife had our first two and a half years ago rather than a few months. Ah time flies, thought you were still a new dad. Congratulations!
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Mar 28, 2017 12:24
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What's with all this talk about a snap election? How would that help anything?
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Apr 9, 2017 13:47
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Yeah I was baffled by the headlines myself. Something the tories are pushing for I guess? Can't see it doing the SNP or Labour any good (especially not Labour haha).
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Apr 9, 2017 15:41
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TomViolence posted:The orange order are hegemonic, supremacist pricks and the only reason folk don't lump them together with fash as a matter of course is because the targets of their campaigns of intimidation and provocation are white and christian. That's my scorching hot take. Yeah they are vile, and much more dangerous than most of the tiny hate groups that do get banned. It's deeply shameful that they are still allowed to march around intimidating people.
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Apr 12, 2017 12:17
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If English voters are so terrified of a do-nothing centre left party that they won't vote for any party that might go into coalition with the SNP and choose instead to vote Tory, I don't see how that makes the SNP bad. The fact is, if the recent polls are at all accurate, this is a two horse race between the SNP and the Tories. If you don't want a Tory government you need to vote SNP. Scottish Labour are dead.
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Apr 23, 2017 14:38
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Jedit posted:Newsflash: there are 591 constituencies that are not in Scotland. They count too. Well no poo poo, but this is the Scotland thread. Our choice is between adding to the Tory majority, or voting SNP.
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Apr 23, 2017 17:51
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Jedit posted:Or thinking beyond your petty provincialism and giving Labour enough seats to be an effective and above all accountable opposition. This is a fantasy. Labour are going to be wiped out. Vote for a party that can defeat the tories- in almost every constituency this is the SNP. I'd rather vote Green for sure. But my seat is SNP vs Tory so that would be throwing my vote away.
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Apr 23, 2017 19:53
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loving Christ that's a horrifying map.
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May 10, 2017 14:31
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I don't have any illusions about independent Scotland being a socialist paradise, it's just politics in England are so hosed and awful. Even Jeremy Corbyn treats immigration like a dirty word.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:13
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forkboy84 posted:This isn't true. In the debate he was promising free movement will end, while Angus Robertson was actually making a positive argument for more immigration. His Brexit policy is almost as deluded as May's- saying we can lose free movement and still negotiate for tariff free access to the common market. It's a fantasy.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:25
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I know this thread is pretty down on the SNP these days, but blaming them for English idiots being afraid of a coalition is really stupid. The SNP letting the Scottish public know that they will support a Labour govt and oppose a Tory one is a statement aimed at Scottish voters who might be afraid to vote SNP out of fear of the tories getting in. It's not some 11 dimensional chess to help the tories.
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Jun 28, 2017 13:25
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A Labour/SNP government with Ed in Nicola's pocket would have been good IMO.
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Jun 28, 2017 13:38
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CoolCab posted:well, yes. it would be good for Scotland. that's kind of the point It would have been good for all of the UK.
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Jun 28, 2017 13:47
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The idea that Scotland has some kind of duty to vote Labour is a big reason for the Scottish Labour collapse. If SLab want people to vote for them then perhaps they should stop being so poo poo, rather than just whining about the SNP non stop.
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Jun 28, 2017 14:00
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There is no reason the SNP can't form a coalition or confidence and supply arrangement with Labour. You are being silly about the SNP again Jedit. Wish I could say I'm surprised you seem to like the DUP more than them...
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Jun 29, 2017 13:29
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Jedit posted:Thanks for assuming that because I said the SNP and DUP are different, it must mean I like the DUP. That isn't in any way an ad hominem strawman. Well remind me what your reason is then, I can't think of one.
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Jun 29, 2017 13:59
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It’s Burns night? That explains why I saw so many posh students in kilts on my way home from work.
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Jan 25, 2018 19:31
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How many babies have been murdered in Finland by these fire traps?
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May 9, 2018 17:45
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My sisters baby box arrived the other day. It’s huge, like twice the size I was expecting. Though my sister was complaining about how cheap and plasticy some of the items are. I read the book, it was rubbish. I didn’t try setting fire to it though.
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May 10, 2018 18:03
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I remember you saying the same thing about free prescriptions Flaps. Why do you love means testing so much?
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May 11, 2018 13:12
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Pissflaps posted:Your memory is faulty. Prescriptions aren’t means tested. Well no not in Scotland, that was the point.
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May 11, 2018 17:50
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So you are saying that people from certain groups that usually have less money don’t have to pay, but it isn’t means tested. Interesting.
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May 11, 2018 18:15
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Pissflaps posted:That’s right. There is no testing of their means. Certain people are exempt from prescription charges. Well that sounds like the worst of both worlds. You should switch to free prescriptions IMO.
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May 11, 2018 18:20
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cargohills posted:Why not just save the time of working out exemptions and keep prescriptions as they are then? Yeah that would be sensible. It’s the same issue with any universal benefit- some people get very concerned about middle class people who can afford to pay getting them.
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May 14, 2018 11:59
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