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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
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Breath Ray posted:You could argue that the Scots had their chance and voted to stay in, tying them to the destiny of the UK. You certainly could. Just like the UK voted to join the EU, forever joining that great country to the Union.
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jre posted:Wtf, Did he live in Germany ? He's remarkably fluent The presenter says at the end he worked as a journalist in Vienna for some years. Fortunately seems to have managed to avoid picking up an Austrian accent though. e: And yeah, I find it hard to fault what Sturgeon has been doing the last few days. She's got the support of all the major Scottish parties other than the Tories for talking to the EU, and she's made it clear to Europe that Scotland considers itself European and painted the country as being unfairly and undemocratically removed from a union it very much wants to be a part of. Her MEPs have done a good job there too. While of course the EU can't come out in support of Scottish independence I think that it's going to help them look sympathetically on Scotland, especially in contrast with the big gently caress you they've just had from England (or the UK if you prefer). Beyond that, it would have been irresponsible of her not to explore all the options for Scotland's relationship with the EU. Scotland voted to remain and she has a responsibility to find out if and how that's possible. That it looks like the only answer for staying in is independence from the UK is politically fortunate for the SNP, but even if that weren't her and her party's goal I'd argue she should have been having these discussions no matter what. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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Jun 29, 2016 22:14
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Yeah pretty unfortunate to go from speaking Schwyzerdütsch to Doric. No matter where you go people think you have a dreadful speech impediment. 
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Jun 29, 2016 22:23
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Coohoolin posted:It's actually an easy transition, lots of similar sounds. I bet you'd get on well with Dutch. The vocabulary already has a lot of correlates with German and Scots (sure you can figure out "Ik ken waar je een kerk kijken kan" from either language). And I reckon Swiss German in particular sounds sort of similar, plus for a German speaker the grammar is really simple.
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Jun 29, 2016 23:18
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Coohoolin posted:I thought it was a kirk but "I know where you can see a church" is a weird sentence. Yeah I maybe got a bit carried away with the alliteration.
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Jun 30, 2016 12:26
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tithin posted:I left Scotland to move to aus before I needed to move out of my parents place, so I never got to experience that but it surprises me that landlords keep the deposit money in Scotland. In Australia, all deposits are lodged with a government agency and only released if both parties agree to a distribution of funds between the parties. As the article says, that's how it's meant to work in the UK now too.The letting agency was fined for not doing so. My experience has been that this is still somewhat common practice, especially among student letting agencies - I lost a deposit that wasn't protected myself, but it was a relatively small amount and given that I'd moved to another part of the country I didn't want the hassle of taking them to court over it. I imagine they get away with it a lot for exactly that reason.
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Jul 5, 2016 12:35
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OwlFancier posted:I mean it's not like British nationalists have better tat. Is there some way I can combine the two and get a timepiece with a gnomon?
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Jul 5, 2016 16:05
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Jedit posted:Shortbread is not legal tender. Finding myself in agreement with David Coburn, what is the world coming to?
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Jul 17, 2016 14:13
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Among EU members, Denmark would clearly be the most appropriate. Not only are there historical links, we bring experience with North Atlantic dependencies to the table. Denmark seemed pretty miserable while I was there - grey, rained a lot, people all looked glum. Basically it and Scotland would be a perfect fit.
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Jul 21, 2016 23:36
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Coohoolin posted:Median and average are different things tho? The median is an average. I wonder what the national income mode is, probably £0 I guess.
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Sep 17, 2016 02:38
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Happy Burns night Scotpol friends!Hoops posted:Having been at lots of burns nights where people are trying haggis for the first time, it's always funny to see people fearful and apprehensive like it's some crazy out-here local delicacy like monkey brains or fish eyes, then they try it and seem shocked that it tastes like mince lamb with some oats and seasoning. Unfortunately it's not possible to get haggis in this benighted country, but I imported some last year and held an out of season Burns night in October so had the joy of introducing haggis to apprehensive foreigners all the same (they all liked it).
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Jan 26, 2017 16:10
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I hope she stands again, she's my MP and I've been pretty happy with her work in Parliament. Voted mainly Correctly, given some good speeches, generally seems to care about what happens to Paisley and be keen on the right sort of stuff.
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Mar 12, 2017 22:08
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I've not had a reason to visit her surgery myself but she seems to be active in the constituency and brings up its interests in the House.
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Mar 12, 2017 22:36
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I have to assume that Scotland remaining a part of the EU as opposed to rejoining following independence is not something even the SNP is still considering, but I guess we'll hear plenty more about it from the First Minister in the near future.
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Mar 13, 2017 12:59
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Brexit should be delayed until after the Scottish independence question is settled. After all what's more important: the fundamental makeup of our great Union, or a bunch of vague promises we made to the frogs and krauts that we don't really intend to keep to anyway?
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Mar 13, 2017 14:29
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jBrereton posted:Not like nationalism/unionism couldn't turn very nasty very quickly in Scotland if the SNP was just told directly to gently caress off by the UK government. No true Scotsman would stoop to violence over matters of petty tribalism.
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Mar 13, 2017 14:34
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Presumably a united Ireland would need both NI and RoI to hold referendums and come to some agreement in terms? Also the negotiations would I guess be between the Dáil and Westminster with Stormont advising rather than acting on their own behalf, unless NI left the UK before trying to unite?
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Mar 14, 2017 01:30
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Irish politics always seems complicated to me but I feel I learned a lot from that article.
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Mar 14, 2017 01:59
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Looking forward being courted by Theresa May for my vote in the upcoming IndyRef. Suggested policy: if Scotland votes remain every eligible voter gets to slap a member (of their choice) of the Tory cabinet.
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Mar 15, 2017 00:35
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I just can't decide who to use my slap on. Boris Johnson is an obvious choice of course, and I'm sure that would be fun. But Chris Grayling has a face custom designed for slapping. It'd be dynamic. Jeremy Hunt seems like a good candidate on paper but I feel like it'd be ultimately unsatisfying, like slapping a cool, damp flannel. Phil Hammond could be alright I guess, his face looks like it probably has some nice elasticity and you'd get a decent expression, but tbh I only really have an intellectual dislike of him, it's not so visceral. Really a tricky one, shame IDS isn't in cabinet any more.
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Mar 15, 2017 00:49
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jBrereton posted:No love/hate for Rees-Mogg? Not in Cabinet, and anyway I don't think he's on the same level as the others. I mean his views are awful and he's a Tory MP, but I don't think he's a really terrible person so much as an idiot.
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Mar 15, 2017 00:58
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Aramoro posted:I have to say that as someone who voted No last time but is very much thinking about switching to Yes I think a solid commitment to join the EU is a requirement. I just don't think trying to peddle the soft line to appease the Yes/Leavers is ultimately going to work. I'd think that's a pretty safe bet, Sturgeon's whole justification for calling a second referendum is the UK leaving the EU and Scotland voting to stay in it. She's been banging the drum of 'Scotland in Europe' pretty hard, it would be very odd for her not to commit to EU membership. I have to admit I find the timing a little strange too though.
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Mar 15, 2017 11:21
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It's rather difficult to make that kind of comparison without knowing anything about what a post-independence Scottish economy would look like. In the EU, in the EFTA, in neither? And then, a socialist hellhole economic model with fully nationalised health service, transport sector, energy etc. is going to look rather different to a turbo capitalist tax haven/financial powerhouse. It's not going to be just how the money is brought in and how much of it there is, but what is done with it afterwards. Until we actually see a plan of some sort (presumably from the SNP, because I don't suppose Scottish Labour or the Conservatives will outline a plan for an independence they oppose) there's only so much that can be really said.
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Mar 16, 2017 01:39
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mehall posted:In terms of winning, I'm not certain now was the right time to be gearing up. That was my initial feeling too, but I think actually it's good to get it out there. That Sturgeon was going to call for another referendum sooner or later due to Brexit was obvious, and getting it in now, as well as trying to hold it before the UK leaves the EU, means that the government has to actually talk about what Scotland's place in a post-Brexit UK would look like. It also means that the choice is between two different flavours of radical change - there is no status quo vote this time around. I'm sure that May would much rather have continued ignoring the other three countries that make up the UK and just focusing on English issues, but that's not going to work if she has to fight an IndyRef at the same time as doing Brexit negotiations. If Scotland remains in the UK then we won't have been forgotten in the negotiations, and if it leaves then it'll be doing so with eyes open. As opposed to post-Brexit when the pressure is off and May can just say "everything will be great, stick with the status quo".
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Mar 16, 2017 21:30
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Good luck to Pissflaps and his glorious bid for freedom from Scottish oppression.
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Mar 18, 2017 22:08
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The Scottish Krone.
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Mar 19, 2017 22:37
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There was a whole advertising campaign around meeting under the clock a year or two ago. I don't remember just what it was advertising, possibly the usefulness of the clock for meeting under.
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Mar 21, 2017 23:36
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Yeah I'm familiar with it but the station had posters and stuff up about it a while back. Maybe it was a clock anniversary, I'm not sure.
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Mar 22, 2017 02:01
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Pissflaps apparently just scrapes on to the high score list for posts in D&D, but scores a respectable 38th on the most ignored users list. If there's a forum wide most posts/hour statistic I'm too stupid to figure out how to find it.
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Mar 26, 2017 02:19
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A midwife friend of mine shared an article about baby boxes on Facebook and half the comments were American women railing against it as unwarranted government interference into the sanctity of child birth. There were even cries of "socialism!" but one did mention that Finland has a lower abortion rate than the States so I guess the debate is ongoing.
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Mar 26, 2017 11:52
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Drinking in a bar named for a political campaign sounds like hell no matter whether you agree with the stance or not.
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Apr 11, 2017 12:26
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Have you given up Aberdeen for the bright lights of Glasgow then, Coohoolin?
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Apr 11, 2017 16:42
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I'm not too worried, although I'm sure Jedit will miss you. Hope you have fun down here anyway, Glasgow is awesome.
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Apr 11, 2017 16:53
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Davidson has certainly done an astonishing job in making Scots willing to vote Tory again, partly by being personally charismatic and apparently not too awful by Tory standards, but in no small part by disassociating herself as far as possible from the Conservative brand. When I last had Tory leaflets through the door you could be forgiven for thinking she represented the Ruth Davidson Party, because it barely even said "Conservatives" anywhere on it. Hopefully people will remember at the polling station that a vote for her is still a vote for May and the Westminster Conservative party.
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Apr 25, 2017 14:27
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All True Scotsmen learned to read exclusively from 1970s Broons and Oor Wullie annuals so standard English is a real chore for us.
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Jun 17, 2017 16:18
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Hoops posted:I'm not aware of any job losses that were related to the possibility of independence happening. I can think of at least 21...
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Jul 5, 2017 18:43
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Sounds like there wasn't much of a big climax either.
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Aug 14, 2017 17:12
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Nenonen posted:Why not just build a wall. Wouldn't work, Scots border policy is an unsolvable riddle until we can define exactly who is and is not a True Scotsman.
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Dec 13, 2019 17:31
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