Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce

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Which Thread Title shall we name this new thread? This poll is closed.
Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce	44	21.36%
ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress	19	9.22%
Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin	9	4.37%
Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country	14	6.80%
ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit	8	3.88%
Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died	24	11.65%
Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country	14	6.80%
ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread	17	8.25%
ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter	15	7.28%
ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming	2	0.97%
Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy	10	4.85%
ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union	5	2.43%
ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die	25	12.14%
Total:	206 votes

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Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Preety sure that Pretty is spelled with two t's and one E, OP

# ¿ Jun 27, 2016 12:49

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# ¿ May 2, 2024 03:47

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Glad to see ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die is polling strong

# ¿ Jun 27, 2016 13:36

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Yinlock posted:

hahaha the dichotomy between that heartfelt, impassioned speech and the immediate allcaps insane UK nationalism below it is sublime.

I thought you were joking but...

GO THEN JOCK --WE DONT CARE WE DONT NEED YOU --NO MORE ROYAL FAMILY NO MORE BENEFITS NO MORE NHS --WILL EUROPE GIVE

YOU THAT ----NO THEY WONT ---GO SCOTLAND WE DONT CARE --WE DONT NEED YOU --WE WILL BUILD A BORDER BIGGER N BETTER

KEEP THE ABUSE COMING --JOCK --- I GOT BROAD SHOULDERS I GOT MY COUNTRY BACK ---YOU GOT gently caress ALL ---WE ARE ENGLAND

# ¿ Jun 28, 2016 12:04

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Mr. Fortitude posted:

To be honest, at this point would it be a bad thing if Scotland ditched the Pound? I can't see it ever recovering to the same levels it once was.

This seems pretty alarmist. Is it not too early to say 'well, this poo poo is non-recoverable'

# ¿ Jun 28, 2016 17:36

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

forkboy84 posted:

If you think the central belt got destroyed by Thatcher, well, formerly industrial Wales got it at least as bad and has had a fraction of the recovery. The Valleys have really been forgotten, in that sense I can understand why they probably viewed voting to leave the EU as bloodying the nose of the establishment. If only because the case for the EU was made so abysmally.

you could make as good a case as you want but for the last 10 years the drum of 'immigrants and the EU are bad we agree' has been beaten by politicians, while they've never actually done anything to address why these things might be bad. This entire loving thing is an abject lesson in why we have a representative democracy rather than a referendum based one.

It should also be a good loving lesson about why particular elements of traditional rhetoric should be no longer acceptable.

but lol it's all because of racism

# ¿ Jun 28, 2016 18:16

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Baron Corbyn posted:

Stuff like this just makes me sad about Wales and the state of it. We should be really loving angry at the British government but instead we just meekly follow English nationalists like lambs to the slaughter.

That's the thing though. People were angry at the British government but rather than get a viable alternative the only one that was there was... this.

Jedit posted:

Wales got shagged harder than their sheep. When people were bandying about the figures for % of average per person contribution to claim that Scotland was net wealthier than the UK, the Welsh figures came with. I believe it was 78%. You can talk about the lies on immigration and the NHS and everything else all you want, but the single lie that Westminster would keep paying the EU's subsidies to Wales and Cornwall swung the referendum. Without that the two regions would have been harder to Remain than Scotland.

When someone in Aberdeen is making sheep shagger jokes holy gently caress

# ¿ Jun 28, 2016 18:34

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Extreme0 posted:

Urgh. Why has there been no news so far on Important figures and the Scottish parties stances. I want juicy details.

Most likely after Article 50 is triggered.

Also juicy polling done with voting intention.

p much everyone is shell shocked.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 10:28

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

PiCroft posted:

I'm very disappointed they didn't ape GTAV and call it BAWSAQ

I worked on GTA 4 and there are so many dumb, wee Scottish jokes in it. There's a Greek take out joint on one of the islands called Gyro Day.

# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 11:05

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

BRAVE

PROUD

ADJECTIVE

# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 15:13

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

moonraker posted:

So has the world come to a end yet ? Is there still food in the supermarkets ? Do i need a wheel barrow to carry 600000000 rubles to buy a loaf of bread ?
Imagine if the rest of the country had to bail out the financial sector London "ohh sorry I forgot that happened already under the EU eutopia that shields us from all evil"

Yep project fear failed big time and now its time for project spit are dummy's and stamp are feet and call every one a racists idiot who knows not what he are she voted for .
Best part of it is some of you people think your the solution when the truth is your the minority problem and the days of spurting left wing dribble from a bubble and getting paid for it are over. Doesn't democracy suck when your on the wrong end of it :P

Only question I wonder is how on earth G Osbourne has the nerve to show his face in public again . Truly a classic example of a two faced scare mongering politician if there ever was one , just a few weeks ago he try's to intimidate pensioners and scare cancer patients with lies , and the loving left forgives it all as they tend to do if it suits there agenda and mean while that Evil man Mr farage post a factual picture of refuges that the BBC used its self just last year and people cry murder lol .

Then we have the BBC left wing fascists who are born with a inbuilt hate of all things British and if you happen to be a white middle aged male well they just hate you that bit more . EU gravy train is sunk.The next target is the BBC gravy train soon all you will have left is retweets and likes on facebook and comment section in the Telegraph to reconfirm your Champaign socialist views .

Hell even a party leader with a massive majority of labour party members backing him is now subject to the, never done a days work in are life Champaign socialist revolt .
Angela Eagle what a loving joke that women is she was born in a think tank and has as much substance as a fart in the wind and now because democracy did not go her way decides she should rule over a elected leader that is in place .

Christ they all stood and watched that Muppet Ed Milliband sink that party with his dribble for the past 5 years and suddenly the public votes to leave the EU and these Muppets want to blame the leader of the labour party for it , good on Jeremy Corbyn for saying a big gently caress you to them all I have new found respect for the man.

Also thanks for the week ban I was given for no reason what so ever, I Understand you people don't like it when people give it back to you I know its cold out there, but its been glorious watching all the tears in this thread, its like 40 ED miliband clones spawned at once in a thread.

I leave you with a nice little clip of GO and a pic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRpG3olg3JY

P.S Yes I am a vile middle aged racist who cant spell for poo poo

First off, I don't think we were going to have to use Rubles for anything. Second, it's our, not are.

So, what, because something didn't go the way you wanted it to you should shut up and stop complaining about it? Like- when a political party gets voted in, should all the other parties go 'yes well done fair enough we'll be quiet for the next five years'? Also I find it hard to believe you're so far divorced from reality that you'd accuse Osborne of cutting and running when pretty much every leader of the Leave campaign has set a fire and walked off. They're the dog that's caught the car it was chasing.

Also your probation was, I'm guessing, because you signed your post and closed it off with an image macro. Or maybe it was saying that israel and the illuminati were behind 9/11. Or the claim that North Korea could get missiles into London in 20 minutes 'just like Iraq' could. Or it could be that you're named after the shittest James Bond movie. Or that the only other thread you post in is the Star Citizen thread (a bannable offence imo.) Or because your youtube channel also contains this fuckin' miracle of technology.

# ¿ Jul 10, 2016 02:44

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Extreme0 posted:

You're actually falling for this?

I think it was suppose to be posted in UKMT honestly.

At this point with Leave voters it's super hard to tell

# ¿ Jul 10, 2016 03:26

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

moonraker posted:

I will leave this circle jerk think tank Byeeeeeeeeeeee

No you won't.

moonraker posted:

Yes i wil be off else where things are still a bit tender in here .Your about the only cool head in this place

behold

Pissflaps posted:

That's very kind of you to say.

A more damning indictment of Pissflaps, I have never seen.

Sion fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Jul 10, 2016

# ¿ Jul 10, 2016 11:39

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

forkboy84 posted:

I cringed so hard it caused me physical discomfort.

I call that 'rupturing a cringe pipe'

# ¿ Jul 18, 2016 15:54

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

One fisherman dies, hopes fade for second.

I mean, I don't like fishermen much but I don't think i'd hope for them to drown or something....

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 11:36

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Pissflaps posted:

This sort of thing makes me wonder about how nationalists would react if any future referendum question didn't require a 'yes' or 'no', answer - going for something like the EUref's Remain and Leave instead perhaps?

I think the SNP would be desperate to build on the emotional capital built up in the word 'Yes' - and it's at the root of their campaign being able to portray itself as the inherently positive choice, despite all the negativity in their arguments.

You mean, how future referendums are going to be carried out? :v:

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 10:55

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

That's a good front cover from the National.

It's a good front cover of some horrifying poo poo that i've seen. When the wee boy wipes his face and just sees all the blood on his hands. Just... what the gently caress do you even say to that.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2016 09:45

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Pissflaps posted:

Might anyone in this thread be at risk of developing this?

I think if there's anyone at risk of blowing out a lot of air and making a lot of terrible noise ITT it's you, Flaps~ <3

# ¿ Aug 23, 2016 10:50

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

TheHoodedClaw posted:

Haggis pakora is proper tasty fusion cuisine

I saw that on the menu at a curry house a year ago and was like 'lmao that is just an awful thing lets get some ironically to laugh at it' and was then 'holy poo poo this is the best thing'

# ¿ Sep 4, 2016 11:16

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Coohoolin posted:

Service industry, mostly, which is having a bit of a boom, it looks like. Loads of places hiring, new restaurants and bars opening up, places expanding. I'm not proposing using oil as a prop, but we can at least stop pretending it's completely worthless.

bars will make up for the loss of oil, good point

# ¿ Oct 14, 2016 20:47

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Leggsy posted:

In some good news, minimum pricing is finally on track to being implemented.

As someone who has been a massive proponent of minimum pricing, i'm over the moon. Although it's a disgrace that it's taken this long to finally be delivered.

Why?

Like- you want to regulate bamjuice, right? If you do it by unit you run a pretty big risk of hitting one of Scotlands most noteworthy exports.

# ¿ Oct 21, 2016 16:50

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Leggsy posted:

God forbid we do anything that might actually reduce consumption, lest it affect middle-class student drinkers.

EDIT: I'd like to see what policy you lot would put forward as an alternative that is equally supported by statistical and case evidence. Or are we going to fall back on the old chestnut of "education", which works fine as a buzzword but does gently caress-all to actually help people.

It's cool that you've gone straight for the 'you classist gently caress, sion' angle. That's rad as hell.

Alternative post:

Attempting to reduce consumption is fine but it's a blanket 'let's raise the price' is a poo poo way of going about it. It's not the bottle of Talisker 25 once a year that're getting into a fight outside a pub, so why should that product be included in this to the same extent as, say, a bottle of Abbey's Finest or La Brew Esp�cial? It's not the super loving aggressive marketing of late night drinking sessions, two for one deals or poo poo like that, is it.

Also, what other countries have minimum pricing laws? I've done a bit of googling but come up empty on it. Canada appears to have something, but they feel a lot more like an advisory and seem to be pretty easy to avoid. Is this one of those 'no way to prevent this, says country where this continually happens' things?

Leggsy posted:

It's regressive in the sense that rich people will benefit less from the policy, I guess.

Explain this one to me.

Like, if it's done by unit then cheaper, stronger drinks (ie, the drinks that are usually consumed in large quantities) will be hit. This will raise prices and further raise poverty levels. Raising taxes on smoking did not seem to have that big an impact on the number of people that smoked.

If it's done by number of cans bought then, hey, just switch to that gigantic bottle of white lightning for 2.99.

Sion fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Oct 21, 2016

# ¿ Oct 21, 2016 18:11

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

forkboy84 posted:

I dunno. This is really bad. Now, I know it's The National and so obviously will be embarrassing, but they've come up with this monstrosity. Yes, a really ugly cover for your passport that will let you pretend Scotland is a real cover. Jesus.

This is some pretty tribalist poo poo, but none more than we've come to know and expect from the national.

# ¿ Oct 31, 2016 11:24

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

forkboy84 posted:

The Scottish Government really are bewildering sometimes.

URL is also the word 'tableau'

# ¿ Dec 13, 2016 19:49

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Angepain posted:

I assume this is how you spend every morning

At least during his private time.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2016 14:21

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Acaila posted:

Happy 2017 Scotgoons. Lang may yer lum reek and all that.

EDIT: Ooooh, happy postiversary to me!

hah scots isnt a real language u nerd

(Happy new year

)

# ¿ Jan 1, 2017 03:59

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

What's the polling data now?

# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 01:12

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Soft Brexit means Indy Ref is off the table

Polling numbers figure into nothing, clearly.

# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 10:54

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

A question settled for a ~~console~~ generation.

# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 15:29

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

vegetables posted:

I mean, while it's only been 27 months since the referendum, I'd argue that the Western World has changed more significantly than it has in the past 27 years. When I voted No in 2014 it was with the vague idea that a unified UK in the EU was important to the defense and coherence of the West as a whole, but I didn't expect the UK and US to veer away from Europe to the extent that they now have. I think it's wrong to say that generational changes can't happen abruptly, and if they do I'm not sure it's unreasonable to ask constitutional questions again regardless of how much actual time has passed.

Putting aside how strongly I disagree with the statement of '27 months greater than 27 years' (Berlin Wall, 9/11 being pretty solid contenders for 'bigger events in the western world than brexit and a tangerine ballbag becoming president' imo)...

When we do the referendum dance again does it not become more likely that the requirements for asking the question will get lower? this feels like one of those slippery slope things where it's just 'keep asking until you get the answer you want' things.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 12:55

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

vegetables posted:

The Berlin Wall didn't fall in the last 27 years; I chose my time period carefully so I could exclude it in a sophistic way. But I honestly think 9/11 is vanishingly significant compared to the realignment we're seeing now.

9/11 and the ensuing war on terror is vanishingly insignificant, aye?

also, fair point about the Berlin Wall. I was 2 months out.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 13:11

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

vegetables posted:

Jedit is literally the most anti-SNP member of Something Awful.

Stay on target.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 13:15

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Pissflaps posted:

...why are you telling me this?

Sion posted:

Stay on target.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 13:27

Sion: Oct 16, 2004; "I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Pissflaps posted:

I don't understand this post.

I think people are trying to have a discussion about something that doesn't involve going 'this guy is a poo head' 'no this guy is/i don't get what you mean'

By telling people to stay on target, I am attempting to keep the thread on the target of discussing scottish politics rather than the people posting in the thread about scottish politics.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 13:32