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why did you do this, op  Buller posted:If you hire people to do housework like carpentry, cleaning, whatever you can write it off in the taxes. It's basically a tax rebate for the rich, with the explanation that it "creates jobs" and "discourages tax evasion". The amount of tax crowns spent per job created in this way is exceptionally high, though.
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ThaumPenguin posted:Also that Swedish lamb leg thing is just wonderful. Fårfiol?
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http://expo.se/2016/det-har-ar-nya-tider_7147.htmlquote:Nya tider bildades 2012 sedan interna konflikter i Nationaldemokraterna lett till att Vávra Suk lämnade partiet och Nationell Idag. Suk fick med sig flera av Nationell Idags medarbetare, däribland Sanna Hill, som under en tid var chefredaktör för Nationell Idag men som även skrivit för nazistiska Svenska motståndsrörelsens sajt. just read the entire article, there's lots more I'm sure the truth is in the middle though guys, just stop oppressing free speech Is anybody surprised this nazi paper is very Putin friendly, by the way? TheFluff fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Aug 23, 2016 |
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Cardiac posted:Also, I would like to congratulate Bokmässan on giving Nya Tider exactly what they wanted. So how do we prevent all these lunatics from steadily dragging public discourse into the gutter?
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conscription will return in 2018 blood for the blood god, etc I mean yes it's silly to have pretty much voluntary conscription but this professional soldier thing clearly wasn't working with the kind of budget we had, so, welp TheFluff fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:General conscription is cool and good and makes guns not seem like fun to most people.  föreslår för övrigt att man tar debatten och stoppar upp den i röven
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Who made the bombkapsel 90 btw? That thing was magical Deutsche Aerospace AG, later merged with EADS (Airbus' military division). It wasn't ~swedish steel~ 
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SR's more specialized programmes are just so loving good. Is there even anything even remotely close to Medierna's meta reporting anywhere? Who does interviews of Lördagsintervjuns caliber? What about Konflikt's foreign reporting? And Cecilia Uddén is a national treasure.
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Cardiac posted:"Unbiased" as in pretty red. not really, no e: no seriously why exactly do you think SR's news reporting and general journalism is "red"? I really ain't seein' it TheFluff fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Oct 18, 2016 |
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Collateral Damage posted:It's all an effect of neglecting the school for so long. Kids aren't taught fact checking and critical thinking any more, which has given us the fact-resistant generation who only trusts whatever their echo chamber on Facebook says. No matter how many actual truths you shove in their faces they'll ignore it if it doesn't match up with their preconceived world view. Eeeeh. A contributing factor, maybe. I read an article in Respons that I thought was pretty interesting (note: academic discussion, not really a pundit-authored thinkpiece). There were other articles in the same issue that also seemed interesting such as this one but I haven't read them all yet. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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quote:Institutionens hålmästare kan idag rekommendera besök i: I've been to about a dozen of these and agree with the recommendations in all cases. Can contribute Björneborg (in Värmland, not in Finnish Österbotten). Speaking of this though, quick poll: how many people of my own generation and younger (say, born after 1985?) actually know what a länsbokstav is, or even better actually know which letter(s) corresponds to which county? I know it because I have a knack for remembering obscure and pointless trivia and also because of all the officious historical texts I work with, but they're hardly in common use these days and I don't remember learning about them in school. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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MiddleOne posted:Younger and I have no idea what you're even talking about. See those letters in parentheses after the town names in the text I quoted? Each county (län) has a shorthand designation, one or two letters, called "länsbokstav". Almost nobody uses them these days. Before 1973 these letters were used on license plates for cars - the registration number was the county shorthand followed by some digits. They were pretty ubiquitous especially in official documents during most of the 20th century (wordings like "Vidsel, BD län" were pretty common from what I've seen), but after they were removed from cars people stopped using them and I don't know if they're even officially recognized now. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A4nsbokstav TheFluff fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Svartvit posted:Skåningar kallar frallor för bullar. uppknullat om sant
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Collateral Damage posted:Stjärnklart. A good book. And not just danish raids, but the entire country splits into little fiefdoms warring between each other over the last remaining resources. I really liked the small side stories of personal tragedies as a result of the complete collapse of technology. the author is a libertarian nutjob though
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tink is moving up in this world or maybe not, unsure if writing in aftonbladet is actually better than writing on an internet comedy forum
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McCloud posted:Why are you calling him tink? Both him and Kawa Zolfagary used to post on these here forums, mainly in LF. Don't remember Kawa's nick but Malcom's was Tinkzorg originally (like in his blog URL). Later name changed to anime Lenin or something along those lines.
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Right. They didn't really agree on a lot of points, of course. You can probably find some funny arguments in the archives if you can be bothered to dig up the old scandipol threads in LF. I've tried to find funny posts I have some vague recollection of a few times, but just finding the threads is a pain in in the rear end and then they're hundreds of pages of shitposting so 
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Criticism of tink's opinion piece and response.
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Fair points, I think. I should maybe clarify that I usually don't agree with everything I link, but I think the debate is interesting.
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cecilia uddén status: still a national treasure https://twitter.com/ceciliauddenm/status/833914698261204992
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Cardiac posted:SÄPO rate left-wing extremism as an higher risk than right-wing, FYI. no but you see, the truth is in the middle guys Seriously, Cardiac. You posted this exact same dumbass talking point before, and exactly like last time I'm going to link you to the same drat Säpo report from 2009 where they say no such thing whatsoever. What they do say is that the right wing extremists have greater economical resources and access to weapons and explosives that the left wing lacks, but that their targets and methods are different (the left wing is a greater threat to public order/private storefronts and as far as harassing local politicians goes, while the right wing is a far greater violent threat to individuals). In Säpo's yearbook from 2015 (2016 isn't out yet) the section about violent political extremism hardly even mentions left wing extremism at all, and most of the chapter is dedicated to an extensive discussion about arson at asylum shelters and the failure to catch the perpetrators. Also, in the 2009 report: 
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Randarkman posted:I welcome Trump talking poo poo about Sweden. It really does suck. The weirdest loving thing is that with all this attention in the last few days suddenly it seems like nationalism is working against SD & co. I'm seeing all kinds of people from all kinds of political factions popping out of the woodwork to say that no, Malmö really isn't that bad. Nationalism is the weirdest loving thing.
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Progg for the post-ironic generation. It loving owns though. seriously doctor kosmos is so bizarrely good, they're utterly sincere but so self-aware that it seems like they're being ironic TheFluff fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Arguing for or against a military alliance or for that matter for or against increased military spending in terms of "winning a war with Russia" is missing the point. No Scandinavian country can "win" an actual full scale war against a world power determined to attack it in any meaningful sense of the word, neither alone (impossible to win for very obvious reasons) nor with the help of NATO (if that actually happens everybody loses). The only purpose of having a military around these parts is deterrence, or making whoever's in Kreml think that "today is not the day we're ready to realize some harebrained imperialistic idea or other". If you have to use it because Putin thought he wanted whatever it is he wants more than he cares about the consequences you're trying to imply exist, you've already lost. Game over, no continues, you don't get to insert credit. The purpose of the NATO alignment is making more deterrent with less money, but if Trump suddenly starts making noises about "gently caress those European freeloaders anyway", well, now you're standing there with your pants down. If it seems paradoxical or silly to spend money on something you have absolutely no intention of ever using, that's because it is. It's an advanced form of doublethink, though - you have to think you're willing to use it for it to be effective. Military logic, ladies and gentlemen. e: then again a lot of thinking these days circles around "low intensity conflicts" and the like so I guess the military really wants to do poo poo TheFluff fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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Also, re: people being salty about Sweden's lack of support in WW2, I really don't think you understand how laughably useless any such help would've been in April 1940, or at least not how laughably useless the Swedish cabinet believed such help to have been (and they had pretty good reasons to believe what they did). The German invasion of Norway was tied together with shoestrings, duct tape and wishful thinking, but the Swedish cabinet didn't really know that, and didn't even start mobilizing until after the attack had already started. The Swedish army in 1940 was not mechanized to any meaningful degree, so it was transported by means of trains, horses and walking. Mobilization and getting mobilized formations to where they needed to go near the Norwegian border took so loving long that resistance had for most practical purposes already ended by the time it was nearing completion. As far as cooperation with the Nazis goes, see for example here for an extensive discussion. As far as Finland goes, see here for a loooong summary of the diplomatic background and previous union discussions, and here for a summary of the help actually provided during the Winter War. also, rädda danmark TheFluff fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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evilmiera posted:Kadern for rörlig tvättanstallt will save us! Would you want to be liberated by someone with stinking underpants?
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When people look at statistics for "foreign background" what they usually think is "brown people", while the number cited usually includes everyone with at least one parent born in any other country. We have had open borders and liberal right of residence between the Nordic countries since, what, 1949? 1950? (E: 1952.) IIRC, in Sweden, somewhere around half of all the people with foreign background have their roots in Finland. I suspect the case may be similar in Norway, but with Sweden replacing Finland. The poors takin' are jerbs are universal. (Scandinavians posting here most likely know this, trying to clarify for the benefit of y'all dirty foreigners) TheFluff fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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Wild Horses posted:it all boils down to semantics, or whatever. have you ever been to any of these places? they're the most boring loving million program concrete suburbs you can imagine the vast majority of the time. the police is there and is visible on foot on the street, ambulance and firefighters go there all the loving time without anything even remotely remarkable happening. it's not a war zone, it's not dangerous to the regular citizen, it's mostly full of completely loving ordinary people with regular jobs who pay their taxes and live completely ordinary lives. you can take your grandma for a fika in Husby centrum if you like and the worst thing that is likely to happen to you is getting a dry kanelbulle. want to do something dangerous in stockholm? go to like, stureplan (really posh inner city clubbing area) on a friday night and be drunk - congratulations, you're in a gigantic loving risk zone for getting assaulted. the thing that was pointed out in the original report that was blown up into this whole loving "rosengård is literally worse than aleppo" shitshow was that in these areas, there's a pretty widespread distrust for police and the government in general, criminal gangs have a negative effect on local society (especially young men, like everywhere else on the planet), and the crime rate is higher compared to the rest of sweden. the whole "AMBULANCE ATTACKED!!" stuff happens when there's rioting, which really isn't all that often. like, yes, there is a problem that has gotten worse in recent years (like the last three or four in particular), but it's not new at all (young men rioting, knocking out windows and throwing stones at the police is not limited to foreigners or suburbs), it's far smaller than everyone seems to have gotten into their heads, and it's most definitely not impossible to deal with since it's possible to get rather drastic effects with simple measures. in fact I'd say one of the major problems here is chronic mismanagement of the police - there's money being thrown at them but with very little to show for it, and I think a lot of it is disappearing into constant ~restructuring~ and new public management bullshit. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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Addendum: I was at a seminar last year where a police officer talked for a while about what the officers on the street are actually doing, and one of his major points was that every single weekend, from friday afternoon to sunday morning, for practical purposes most available police resources as well as a majority of hospital emergency room resources are occupied by fighting... guess what? Not muslims, nor drug sellers, nor hand grenade attacks, nor burglars, but what alcohol does to your average Mr. Svensson. It causes him to become a violent and aggressive creature, a barbarian who gets into fist- or knifefights, harasses women and passes out in flowerbeds. It's his culture that he shows no signs of changing, and it is clearly incompatible with what we consider acceptable in this country. He should adjust or leave, imho. e: further addendum: wanna know where the police doesn't want to get out of their cars because of the hostile environment? mcdonalds on sveavägen (next to the stockholm city library) on one of those days when it's full of hundreds of raggare and bikers TheFluff fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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Wild Horses posted:It's fine if you think its totally alright for things to be this way, but I disagree with this notion. this is what I literally said: "there is a problem that has gotten worse " how do you even get from that to "it's fine if you think its totally alright for things to be this way" you strawmanning dumbass (edited for accurate quote, lest I strawman the strawmanner) Like, not even the dumbest Södermalm hipster stereotype people will say that rioting in Rinkeby is cool and good. There is certainly nobody in this thread who has said or even implied that. The only thing I'm trying to do here is getting some loving sense of proportion back into this retarded discussion, because it's impossible to even attempt to have a reasonable political discourse if you constantly have these ridiculous smokescreens of alt-right buzzwords obscuring every single possible political issue or socioeconomic trend that isn't (or cannot be implied to be caused by) THE MUSLIM THREAT. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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   Södermanlands pansarregemente on parade on the grass field mentioned above, september 1943. The area really hasn't changed much in the last 70 years - the apartment blocks in the background are still there and look more or less the same. Note the huge stacks of firewood in the background in the first photo though - fuel shortages were a very real concern during the war. If we get a new oil crisis maybe we'll get to stack firewood there again within our lifetime 
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Randarkman posted:Cars are good. All you Swedes (I believe that's who's talking now) have brainrot. cars killed rural sweden
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Noshtane posted:Cars IS rural Sweden. there was a post in one of the scandithreads in LF about the definition of scandinavia that also involved this but since you can't search archives these days I can't be bothered to find it it was really good tho, I promise
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Beeswax posted:No sector but the public sector. You'd think Löfven would be a betongsosse considering his background but idk, can't say I've noticed much (how do you even translate that, I mean surely other countries also have similar socialists but what are they called?)
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Cardiac posted:This is by the way the Swedish law, if you have no legal right to be in Sweden, you should by law be expelled. See here for example. "Looking like a swarthy foreigner" isn't probable cause to detain someone to verify their identity, it's racial profiling, and that's not legal. Outsourcing torture or capital punishment by expelling people to countries which are likely to do that to them is also illegal (probably unconstitutional, in fact - yes I know there's precedent with Anna Lindh's infamous Egyptians, but cabinet level geopolitical fuckery is what it is). Expelling people to countries who will not accept their own citizens back isn't really practically doable at all but even if it was it'd effectively be making them stateless, which is, guess what, illegal too (by international convention, no less). Uzbekistan is one of the countries to which we do not expel people by force, for these reasons. Sending the police to deliver the message that right of residence has been denied and taking the poor schmuck into custody immediately instead of letting them go underground is an obvious thing that was already proposed as a law change last year, but I'm unsure of its status as of right now. So, what do? It's either put them in camps/prison forever - which is a braindamaged and expensive non-solution even from a purely practical standpoint, basic loving human decency notwithstanding - or give up and let them stay if expelling them is not possible (but merely going underground is just delaying it, not making it impossible). Indefinite detainment or this limbo state where they can neither leave nor stay legally are just very good ways of creating future problems, so the only pragmatic solution is to let them stay and hopefully become productive members of socitey. Being impossible to expel because your home country is a shithole isn't even your fault, so it's not like you even broke the law. This solution is currently under investigation, by the way. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Apr 10, 2017 |
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:What a bunch of utter bullshit, idiotic arguments like that will only keep Sweden unsafe and all but guarantee that SD will become the largest party. The obvious solution is to just have refugee centers outside the EU and have the same rules as Australia, nobody that goes to Europe with boat gets to stay instead only people who gets asylum at local refugee centers. This will also stop the massive streams of people coming in. Your retarded solutions only continue to encourage mass migration of economic immigrants that have nothing at all to do here like this terrorist Uzbeki. Also Reva needs to be restarded again, the "racial profiling" argument is utter bullshit since guess what most illegals don't look like Swedes. quoting the text that was there before the edit yes, we understand that you are incredibly racist and really like the idea of putting people in camps, thank you no, this still isn't a practical solution at all no matter how much you jerk off to imprisoning people indefinitely for no really good reason, since these people won't just disappear unless you're arguing for literally gassing them
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Heinz Hynkel posted:Swedes bad, ok?
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