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Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Heinz Hynkel posted:

Well that depends about what you consider a normal person. I have to say that the sa thread over there is more fun than this "funny" site has produced in years.

Should I be grateful that you stand strong and suffer the awfulness that is this site, relentlessly shitposting?

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Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Heinz Hynkel posted:

I don't care about your feelings at all. I have said it before and I will repeat it now: If you get antagonized by my posting... Just block me and gently caress off.

Triggered much? :smuggo:

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Heinz Hynkel posted:

Ah, you are just nothing. Why do you even post?

Alas, we are all but dust in your presence.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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murphyslaw posted:

What the gently caress is happening why are you toying with the brownshirt

Yeah, I'm not sure. Sorry about that.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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At age 21 you've been an adult for three years. Why would the government give you anything for that accomplishment?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Katt posted:

Hey Danish people what the gently caress.

https://www.vox.com/2015/10/31/9650030/denmark-prime-minister-bernie-sanders

You are literally the second most socialist country in the world after China. Why you do this? Why do you give the libertarians this fuel so they can claim that free market magic is why the Scandinavian countries have higher standards of living?

How are you swedish and holding this position at the same time? :psyduck: It's Trump-level weird.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Can't spell SD without S. :negative:

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Groda posted:

So... what has S actually done? Everything that's actually changed since the migrant wave has been chipping away at extremely naive policies that would have been dead years ago if SD's existence didn't make them a matter of face-saving. The most concrete thing they've done to the immigration system is introduce maintenance / housing requirements for visa sponsors, which is a breathtakingly retarded problem to have had in the first place.

They have gone from "alla ska med" to "-unless you are new here and also a brown; then gently caress you". Also they've basically accepted SDs view of the world, while failing to realise that SD will always be "better" at the intolerance and racism game.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Groda posted:

None of that is actual anything.

This election cycle, Socialdemokraterna have spent more ink on concrete changes to Allianens 2008 work visa system to look tough on immigration, since that's already a distasteful form of immigration with Swedish Swedes, and the one that accounts for the smallest share of immigrations. Their integration (!) policy suggestions only extend to a subset of a subset of immigrants who are on socialen and don't have a partner to support them.

At no point have they suggested coupling integration requirements to citizenship (they already possess the legal grounds for introducing this as a matter of policy tmw). Nor have they decided to go Full Dublin on all asylum seekers coming here from countries other than Denmark, Norway and Finland -- again, with legal grounds.

Again, what has S actually done?

Actually done, I'm not sure. What they communicate sounds horrible to me. The reduction to EU minimum alottment, proposed central interrment camps, border controls, that godawful pseudo-scientific age-screening, more lock-ups, and throwing working people out the instant an administrative error is made.

Or perhaps I am a dumb who is Angry on the Internet? If so, please point me to where I can learn more and be less dumb.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:

S hasent campaigned on a single liberisation of migration policy in like 50 years. Even guys like Erlander and Palme were thougher than Lövens people are. Nothing about S "new" proposal is actually new, either for the party or for the country.


Ok so S has a consistent restrictive policy on immigration? I did not know that.


Ok so S was always terrible, got it.

What I don't get is why super cynical neo-liberals don't campaign for open borders but no access to our public sector and no rights. This is the time to reinstate indentured servitude!


What a terrible hot take that was. Sorry.

Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 03:02 on May 24, 2018

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Cardiac posted:

This debate is so stupid. Nazis, at least in Sweden, are completely irrelevant from a political view since they are incapable of anything but infighting. At best they serve as some kind of boogeyman for the antifa to justify their existence.

I mean, if you go around in Sweden being afraid of nazis or antifa, I would recommend seeking help from a psychiatrist.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you are a white CIS male not publicly opposing nazis. If I am not wrong, you are looking at this from a very privileged position and applying your personal comfortable position onto those that are harrassed and targeted by these assholes.

I can't understand how NMR aren't labeld as terrorists by the state. Apart from the annoying detail that they are not-brown and therefore can not be terrorists for reasons.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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sofokles posted:

Im a criminal now.

BBQ is illegal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Found out too late to abort hot action

The sirloin was delicious

So instead of being a normal person and using a grill, your made a bonfire for the BBQ? Ambitious.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Meh, 4 months non-transferable per parent is awesome.

vvvvvvvvvv

Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Jun 13, 2018

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Cardiac posted:

I would say that the 4 months mandatory for the dad is either pointless or punishing.
Pointless in the sense that either the dad takes 4 months by intent or he puts the paternity leave in during summer/winter vacations when the mother is also home.
Or punishing since not all families have the means to let the high-income earner be home, or the dad is contractor/one man company, which basically causes those 4 months not to be used.
The above are examples of why I dislike any form of mandatory requirements. The mandatory is something that can be applied to parents having full-time jobs with similar oppurtunities and wages, and it will be limiting to all those that fall outside this.

This argument can be used to argue against the 5-day work week, the 8 hour work day and all other labor law that regulates how much workers can be exploited. It's a bad argument.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Cardiac posted:

You know what is even worse than a bad argument?
Complaining about argumentation.

So instead of doing that, please tell us your solutions to the examples (taken from friends and family) I provided.

Are they poor? Then they should be compensated economically to allow for paternal leave. Are they not poor? Then they should reevaluate their priorities and make a budget that accommodates paternal leave.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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MiddleOne posted:



The noose is tightening around M's neck.

:tif:

Only the downfall of m was within the margin of error though.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Cardiac posted:

I believe Ms game plan for the election is to carry the corpse also known as Alliansen to the election, quietly push it down the stairs as a mercy kill and then form the main party of a coalition as the least offensive party to collaborate with.

If L doesn't pull up, I think there is a real possibility that KD gets killed on election day. Friend 4 percent gets complicated when two of your bff's have the same need to be that, while at the same time you bleed voters to the racists.

I will enjoy the day KD goes away forever.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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MiddleOne posted:

This election is going to be a trainwreck to behold.

The solution is simple really.

We'll all just hold hands and sing "we shall overcome".

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Dirk Pitt posted:

So are we looking at a merger of Alliansen and S to block SD? Won't L and C abandon M if M flirts with SD?

Edit: Also is this: https://www.thelocal.se/20180703/new-border-controls-introduced-at-airports-and-ports-across-sweden just pandering by Steffe?

Well I for one am relieved. Finally we'll stop the hoards of illegals flooding the contry through Arlanda airport.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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MiddleOne posted:

https://twitter.com/svtnyheter/status/1014396959694688257?s=19

Swedish political discourse in 2018: Did the holocaust really happen?

It's goddamned embarrasing that this needs to be spelled out to supposed adults.

:negative:

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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MiddleOne posted:

Honestly this election.

Voter turnout is going to suck rear end if things keep being this dumb.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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BigglesSWE posted:

Vi borde återupprätta Universitetets egna fängelse, som 100% var en grej btw.

Oregerliga overaller skulle ta all plats.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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BigglesSWE posted:

So the police gives permission to these walking bags of fight-incentives to do their thing and then not monitor them?

Are the Swedish police cosplaying American police?

It's only brown people and antifa who do bad things, don't you know?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Vem kunde ana att politikerna skulle ge sig själva och sina kollegor ansvarsfrihet?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Fader Movitz posted:

This week is the week when all of central Stockholms train infrastructure is either being repaired or breaking down. Commuting - not even once :shepicide:

And to the surprise of nobody, it's the brand new citybanan that has killer escalators that need to be fixed yesterday. They are a year old this week.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Biomute posted:

Are they Chinese or something?

Close; American. Otis to be more precise. Landstinget saw what this vid and decided we need the same treatment for the public transport plebs.

https://youtu.be/krXj69fJjgA

Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jul 13, 2018

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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SplitSoul posted:

Danish People's Party pushed through a "boar fence" along the border to prevent the spread of swine fever from Germany. It costs 80 million kroner and stretches for 70 km. It also has... openings in it... so other animals like deer can pass through... :suicide:

Social Democrats voted for it, because of course.

I was expecting it to be a "boar fence" that conveniently also stops the invading hoards of immigrants. Color me surprised.

E: isn't it really easy to have a fence with openings that lets jumping animals over, but not board under our through?

Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Jul 20, 2018

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Ministry of integration? Orwell would be proud.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Conceptually or because the name happily represents the exact opposite of its function?

Porque no los dos?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Cardiac posted:

They are not nazis and have a zero tolerance policy against racism.

lol, no. They claim to have that, but the party is chock full of racists who can not help themselves from spewing racism all over the place.

Or is it only racism if someone goes "I'M A RACIST"?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Cardiac posted:

So how many of your friends and family members are racist then?
Roughly 20-25% of the Swedish male population would vote SD, which means unless you live in a bubble, a fair amount of them will be SD supporters.

But I do live in a bubble. Sthlm+academics=not a lot of racists. I have a former friend who voted SD last time. For the same reasons he chose that party, I chose to not be his friend any more.

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A fact which is extra funny in this male dominated forum.

:negative: this is not how statistics work!

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Another funny fact from SCB, roughly 10% of the foreign born immigrants would vote SD.

Apart from the obvious bit about you defining immigrants as "others" excluding white people from abroad, this is literary the "I know a black person" argument. Yes, people can and do vote against their own best self interest.

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The point is this:
SD used to be a nationalist party, which have now transformed into a populist party with nationalist roots.
In the same way that VPK used to be a communist party, and is now basically a social democratic party.
As for SD, the hardcore nationalist have left for AfS, while the Nazis in NMR hate them all for being race traitors.

SD has gone from blatant BSS racism to dog whistle racism. Terms like "multikulturalism", "PK", "utlänning" and "invandrare" have a very different meaning when used by SD compared to how the words are (should be?) understood by normal people.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Cardiac posted:

Btw what SCB also said that SD reaches 10% in academic circle.

Source need. I see 6% +-1.4% in the latest PSU.

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Finally, having spent virtually my whole working life within and around academia, saying someone is an academic is hardly indicative of anything, except maybe an overblown sense of self.

But what about my bubble, where SD-supporters are absent? Must be my superb personality working as a fly swatter against racists then I guess.

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If this thread was representative of Sweden (lol) roughly 1/4 of the male posters (ie most on SA) would be SD supporters.

Nowhere is representative of statistics. That is not how statistics work. :negative:

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And here I took the definition of foreign born from SCB.

Lol, are you trying to claim that this is a term with multiple definitions? Please tell me the SCB definition of "utrikes födda", I couldn't find it but I bet it includes everyone born outside of Sweden's border.

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Btw saying someone is voting against their own self interest is a perfect case of elitism.

Voters are immune against propaganda. Cool.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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God damnit I'm arguing with Cardiac what is wrong with me.

In May 2017 the new rules governing part time fire fighters went into effect. This was not popular with the actual firemen, and many quit.

Now about a year later Sweden burns and we have a shortage of 4500 part timers and thus have to pay Danish, Polish and Finnish firefighters to come and help us. Sometimes life comes at you fast, but if history is any indication no one is to blame.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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MiddleOne posted:

Filled with way more sympathetic and capable people than I expected when I originally joined up.

Are you on the ballot?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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MiddleOne posted:

On the ballot, highly unlikely to not have a seat after the election.

On what level? I'd vote goon for Stockholm :D

E: I guess you might not want to answer that, considering it would open up to doxxing.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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MiddleOne posted:

Fun fact: Personal campaigning, such as asking people to vote for your name, is actually grounds for exclusion in V. :v:

Huh. Well, that might be the best policy regarding that issue; or the worst. I have no idea what impact personröstning has had apart from Nazis abusing empty lists to win local seats.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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I'm more of a Giáp guy than Pol Pot, but thanks for the av.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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mila kunis posted:

Outsider here, why is so much of european politics so heavily focused on migrants right now? What percentage of the population do they form in scandinavia, and isn't the constant focus on them drowning out discussion on economic issues?

Populism of the right wing flavour. And a bit of racism probably.

Mark Blyth has a good talk on why it's on the rise in Europe here: https://youtu.be/BsqGITb0W4A

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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SplitSoul posted:

It will now cost you up to 10.000 kr. to cover your face while Muslim.

The worst crime.

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Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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BigglesSWE posted:

https://twitter.com/expressen/status/1025107458711334912?s=21

It’s honestly pretty icky how we are to just shrug over the fact that the organization with a monopoly on violence should be treated to hugs and kisses after shooting a man to death.

Like, a man with Downs Syndrome has been killed, I.e. ceased to exist, will someone PLEASE think of the fragile feelings of the police!

It's insane. Like how scared and broken do you have to be to kill a big child with a toy and then try to frame it as "scary 20 y/o with a replica gun"? gently caress those cops in particular and all their apologists.

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