Scandinavia: I know I shit on Denmark a lot, but I think they deserve it

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Scandinavia: I know I shit on Denmark a lot, but I think they deserve it

«‹›2 »

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Cardiac posted:

Vinegar and soap is a better solution.

use a glass and something flat to catch and release

# ¿ Aug 9, 2022 11:56

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ¿ May 21, 2024 05:59

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

does any party want to ban crypto mining?

lilljonas posted:

That's not the issue. He was "sold" to the media by SD as a big time Uppsala historian, which was very, very far from what he actually is. I'm not saying that you can't write history without being a tenured professor, I'm saying that someone who basically did his PhD and never published anything after that and was employed at Uppsala for like a week should not be labelled a historian from Uppsala university.

didnt someone from the thread know him from their time at university?

# ¿ Aug 9, 2022 17:22

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

BigglesSWE posted:

I rather liked �rebro when I was studying there a few years back, dunno if whatever issues they have at hand can be handwaved away with �A BILLION DOLLARS!�

it will cost a lot more than that to fix the main issue (too flat)

# ¿ Aug 25, 2022 19:11

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

luminalflux posted:

Medh�ll. Kebabs�sen utanf�r Trollh�ttan/V�nersborg �r fan det s�msta. Nej jag vill inte blanda vitl�k och tomats�s vad �r det f�r fel p� er.

this is why building snabbt�g connecting every part of sweden to j�nk�ping is of vital importance

# ¿ Sep 7, 2022 13:34

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

r�stade v�nstern p� alla, personkryssade baserat p� vem som hade kattigast namn

# ¿ Sep 11, 2022 12:58

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

thotsky posted:

I vote for defenestration.

this is going to far, maybe we could do something fun instead to lighten the mood

like a maskeradbal

# ¿ Sep 16, 2022 19:26

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

# ¿ Sep 17, 2022 00:31

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

V. Illych L. posted:

new thread ik has a strong anti-dog policy, will murder any dogs encountered, confirmed pro-cat

this is stealth islamisation

seems more like stealth c-spamification to me

# ¿ Sep 22, 2022 13:11

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

His Divine Shadow posted:

Looks like Ulf managed to get a government coalition after all

https://svenska.yle.fi/a/7-10021767

Ulf has a 'evil nazi officer' look to him when he smiles

# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 19:21

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

that mine in norra k�rr is probably gonna get built now :smith:

its just overlooking one of the biggest and cleanest lakes in europe, what could go wrong

# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 23:29

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

repealing the expansions to the security state would probably hot happen either

# ¿ Nov 17, 2022 11:29

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

teen witch posted:

sverigefolkmaktparti???

parti? are we in france? :argh:

sverigefolkmaktsf�rdelningen

# ¿ Nov 28, 2022 17:58

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Groda posted:

Getting gas from Azerbeidzjan via the TANAP and TAP, which bypass Russia, and restructuring the EU gas market for more LNG from the world market are absolutely positive developments, and the best we can do in a world with Germans.

our increased use of lng is hurting poorer nations reliant on it
we are more or less exporting our energy crisis to countries like pakistan and bangladesh

and replacing russia with azerbajdzjan is... not exactly an improvement on the whole 'dictatorship attacking a democracy' front

# ¿ Nov 29, 2022 17:26

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Rust Martialis posted:

So Azerbaijan expects a 40% increase in gas sales to the EU in 2022.

https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/europe-turns-azerbaijan-gas-how-big-could-be

How much is that, I wonder?

In 2021, Azerbaijan was 2% of EU gas. So this will mean they go up to.... 2.8%.

https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/83282/#:~:text=Supplies%20of%20gas%20from%20Azerbaijan,by%20the%20Azerbaijani%20Energy%20Ministry.

Meanwhile Russia was 45% of EU imports in 2021 and crashed in 2022.

Azerbaijan's 0.8% share increase isn't replacing Russia's 45% share.

Could you all do some *homework* before making these sort of arguments?

not what i meant but i did phrase it poorly, buying more from azerbajdzjan is done with the intention of reducing buys from russia

# ¿ Nov 29, 2022 19:33

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/uppgifter-person-med-pkk-koppling-utvisad-till-turkiet

:sweden:

# ¿ Dec 3, 2022 21:16

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/energi-och-naringsminister-ebba-busch-kd-haller-presstraff-om-elstod-till-foretag
the farse continues

also it was officially confirmed the estonia secretly transported military equipment is civilian vehicles
well, �teknisk utrustning med d�rtill kopplad dokumentation"

probably in lastbilar or whatever but im choosing to believe they transported a nuke in of these

# ¿ Dec 23, 2022 00:30

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Feliday Melody posted:

What's so bad about it?

I can barely read it, so I can't really make out the nuances.

i dont know danish either but its not too hard to get the main points
comparing africans to lemmings, climate change is nature trying to cull them for having too many children, instead of charity events for africa we should be sending birth control

there is also this at the end

quote:

Og Afrika har simpelthen v�ret et problem, lige siden kolonisamfundene oph�rte, siger hun.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2023 12:58

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

https://www.etc.se/utrikes/billstroem-i-turkisk-media-sverige-kommer-kriminalisera-terrorflaggor

quote:

Det �r Turkiets statliga nyhetsbyr� Anadolu Agency som rapporterar om Sveriges grundlags�ndring, som tr�dde i kraft vid �rsskiftet. Man citerar Justitiedepartementet bland annat i att det blir ut�kade m�jligheter att begr�nsa f�reningsfriheten n�r det g�ller terrorism. Det blir m�jligt f�r lagstiftare att inf�ra en bredare kriminalisering av deltagande i en terroristorganisation, och �ven f�rbjuda sj�lva organisationen. I slutet h�nvisar man dock till en intervju som man gjort med utrikesminister Tobias Billstr�m (M) p� plats i Ankara den 23 december. Om att Sverige ska f� en ny brottsrubricering.

Nyhetsbyr� Anadolu Agency uppger att Billstr�m s�ger att man ska presentera ett nytt lagf�rslag f�r riksdagen den 7 mars, f�r att skapa ett �nytt brott� i brottsbalken.

Att g�ra reklam och propagera f�r terroristorganisationer p� svensk mark, ska bli kriminellt. Detta inkluderar att anv�nda flaggor kopplade till organisationerna. Det ska bli f�rbjudet att �vifta med� dessa flaggor. Den h�r lagen �r t�nkt att inf�ras den 1 juni 2023, enligt nyhetsbyr�n, som s�ger sig citera utrikesminister Tobias Billstr�m.

�Deltagandet det kriminella�
I en intervju med svenska nyhetsbyr�n TT den 2 januari pratar justitieminister Gunnar Str�mmer (M) om ett kommande lagf�rslag som regeringen ska l�gga fram. Det g�ller kriminalisering av deltagande i terrororganisationer.

TT fr�gar rakt p� sak om det �blir f�rbjudet att vifta med PKK-flaggor�, den kurdiska organisationen som terrorklassats av EU och som Turkiet ser som sin fr�msta fiende.

Gunnar Str�mmer svarar att �det �r deltagandet som �r det kriminella�. Men en flagga kan spela roll som bevis. Dock kan det �ven finnas de som viftar med flaggan utan en koppling:

� Det �r en viktig distinktion, s�ger Str�mmer till TT.

�Kommer �terkomma�
Tobias Billstr�ms pressperson svarar p� Dagens ETC:s fr�gor via mejl:

�Det st�mmer att riksdagen ska r�sta om en ny lag som kriminaliserar deltagande i terrororganisationer den 7 mars. Den nya lagen f�rbjuder inte viftande med flaggor, men n�r lagen ska till�mpas kommer det att kr�vas olika bevis f�r att styrka deltagandet i en terrororganisation och d�r kan en flagga komma att spela roll. Mer exakt vad den nya lagen inneb�r kommer justitiedepartementet att �terkomma till l�ngre fram.�

N�r utrikesministern f�r en direkt f�ljdfr�ga om huruvida han �r felciterad i turkisk press, d�r det l�ter som att allting �r klart inklusive datumet d� lagen ska b�rja g�lla, svarar utrikesministerns pressperson vagt:

�Det justitieministern s�ger (till TT) �r korrekt, alla detaljer kring den kommande lagen kommer att klarg�ras i samband med att lagr�dsremissen l�mnas �ver till lagr�det. Exakt n�r det blir kan justitiedepartementets pressekreterare svara p�.�

# ¿ Jan 4, 2023 14:02

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

turkish student was denied internship at swedish univeristy with the reason given by a professor being "Vi skulle g�rna ta emot dig. Dock, d� Turkiet inte till�ter att Sverige g� med i NATO s� m�ste jag avb�ja. Sorry!"

Rust Martialis posted:

Utter nonsense. We ('the West') should indeed provide the support the Palestinians have asked for. They have asked for political recognition and support, and we should indeed do so, but the active military support Ukraine is asking for is not what the PA is asking for.

what they are asking for right now is tempered by what they can reasonably expect to get, im sure they would like to get bunch of man portable anti tank and anti air systems but since they have no chance of getting them and it would only get israel very mad at them they dont ask for it

Megamissen fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Jan 15, 2023

# ¿ Jan 15, 2023 22:05

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/blekinge/statsministerns-sekreterare-domd-for-tjuvfiske-av-blekingeal

government offical convicted for eel-crimes

# ¿ Jan 19, 2023 20:15

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Threadkiller Dog posted:

I dont know exactly how or even why but I would really like it to be true that PostNord did it.

the bomb meant for the fourth pipeline was lost on the way

# ¿ Feb 9, 2023 00:58

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Somaen posted:

This doesn't pass a simple risk assessment smell test. US risks: global reputational and relationship damage with allies, Russia flips its poo poo and starts threatening nuclear war or retaliating by damaging critical infrastructure. Reward: status quo, Germany potentially doesn't buy gas in case it wants to? Same can be achieved with sanctioning nord stream with less risk and more negotiation room. (Germany can still keep buying russian gas because stupid americans failed to blow up nord stream 2)
Russian risks: reputational damage minimal because who gives a poo poo, potential rewards: gas crisis in Germany forcing them to buy gas over nord stream 2 or all the other pipelines, potential to blame US/Norway/Algeria

And yes, the officials conducting the investigation need precise and hard evidence before making accusations compared to an internet rando that can evaluate the geopolitical logic and make educated guesses

ns2 had one of its two lines bombed aswell, and we dont know if one was left intact intentionally or if the culprits meant to destroy it too but something went wrong

# ¿ Feb 12, 2023 16:43

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

5 h�gg
4 alm
3 tall
2 ask
1 s�lg

# ¿ Feb 16, 2023 10:28

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

has there been any good investigative pieces about whats going on over at fhm?

Jack Trades posted:

I think we should import some Nuria's into Scandinavia.

Yes I know that they're outlawed and hunted to extinction in all of EU for being a potentially invasive species that will eat all of our trees, or whatever, but come on

They're so cute. Just let them.

my list of favorite trees was not a joke you monster

# ¿ Feb 16, 2023 15:36

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Beeswax posted:

tall #1. b�sta skogen �r en tallskog.

tallskog is the best kind of skog but i like ask (they have a very beautiful, almost tropical appearence during the summer) and s�lg (just love their bark, both look and feel) more as individual trees

worst kind of skog is klibbalk�rr

# ¿ Feb 16, 2023 16:14

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

f�ssta tossdan i mass :yotj:

# ¿ Mar 2, 2023 13:38

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Wow, I for some reason remember pork being way higher. I trust that site more than my own vague memories of taking environmental science a decade ago; will adjust accordingly going forward.

though i think the pigs in that picture have a higher carbon footprint than their equivalent mass in beef, regardless

could be that pork scores worse if you consider other kinds of pollution or something

# ¿ Mar 3, 2023 20:02

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Postorder Trollet89 posted:

Thats true of literally anything. Factor in deforestation and stuff like that in soybeans and it's not really green at all. Pork does not produce copious amounts of methane though, which lowers the Co2 equivalent quite alot.

i was thinking more in terms of local enviromental damage

# ¿ Mar 4, 2023 00:33

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Potrzebie posted:

It's very bad at measuring post covid and all other things not excess mortality. It's very good at measuring what it does. My post was a follow up to the idea in 2020 that Sweden had the worst covid policy and Tegnell was causing so much excess death that lockdown could have saved, just look at all the rest of Europe!

What measurement do you suggest that is better at capturing what it is you feel excess mortality lacks?

comparing it over time, consider what splitsoul said

SplitSoul posted:

We're currently at 8,284 dead "from/with COVID" officially, the vast majority of them after we went Full Tegnell last year.

if this is also true of other european countries then the doing a victory lap over not trying at all instead of trying but failing is kinda dumb

# ¿ Mar 6, 2023 17:43

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Potrzebie posted:

Dude... Read the last page. The SCB data was commissioned by SvD.

And please do stop misrepresenting my position. I was quoting myself from 2020 when it was all about excess mortality. And now the data shows that Sweden was least-bad in Europe in that regard.

again, how did excess mortality change over time
if the other european countries had major spikes and passed sweden after they opened up then it shows that probably had more to do with other factors

the conclusion should be 'opening up/keeping open during a pademic kills a ton of people' and 'we need better ways to combat a pandemic instead of just relying on vaccines to solve it'
...or so i would like to say but i dont think our ruling class has the will or even imagination to do what would be required, and america is even worse

# ¿ Mar 6, 2023 19:21

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Potrzebie posted:

Sorry, but I can not make sense of this formatting.

im very bad at converting my thoughts into sentences so ill try again

what i have an issue with is using total excess deaths in [european] countries to evaluate the initial policies those countries
the reason this is bad is that every country at some point adopted the swedish policy
lets say a country that initally did lock downs had a much lower amount of excess deaths than sweden, but had a major spike in deaths after adopting the swedish policy and ended up having more in the end
this would tell you that sweden having fewer total excess deaths probably did not have a lot to do with the inital swedish policy response and more to do with other factors (general quality of health care, living situation of old people, etc)
just looking at total excess deaths you have no way of knowing if something like this happened

# ¿ Mar 6, 2023 21:02

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

TheFluff posted:

So what should the policy response have been? Chinese style total lockdowns until there's rioting in the streets? It took well over a year until vaccine coverage started to get decent. Strict quarantines like in countries that are either islands or effectively islands (thinking of South Korea here) was never a realistic option in the EU, but it seems to have been one of very few actually effective policies. Still, even in those countries the disease is still spreading and taking a toll.

the ideal would have been a global zero covid policy, with strict initial international (and intranational) travel restrictions that can be repealed over time as more and more countries became covid free
aggressive action like that would hopefully also stop new worse variants from appearing
completely unrealistic ofcourse, but i dont see a good way to fight such an infectious disease in a globalized world without a global action plan

with covid it turned out there was no good (realistic) response

but the big issue is if we assume all new pandemics will also be like this
if the next pandemic less infectious, or we get a vaccine or similar that reduces the spread by a lot, maybe the lighter lockdowns used in europe would have been enough
if the lesson we take from this is that we should not even try instead of using the experience to be better prepared to lock down and at least try to have some kind of international reponse ready, that would be very bad

# ¿ Mar 7, 2023 00:33

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Potrzebie posted:

China did this. I hope it is never tried again anywhere.

the key is the 'global' part
zero covid worked, they managed to stop both the inital outbreak aswell as subsequent ones coming in from outside
but since it was limited to china it eventually failed, with more infectious variants being created and constantly probing their defences

if china had existed in a vacuum then covid would have ended early 2020

# ¿ Mar 7, 2023 09:42

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/lagradets-kritik-ignoreras-allt-oftare-forskaren-mojliggor-for-regering-som-inte-vill-demokratin-val

quote:

Om utvecklingen med politiker som allt oftare ignorerar Lagr�dets kritik forts�tter riskerar Sveriges demokrati att hamna p� djupt vatten. Det menar Patrik Bremdal, docent i konstitutionell r�tt.

� Det m�jligg�r f�r en regering som inte vill demokratin eller r�ttsstaten v�l.

De uppm�rksammade fallen d�r regeringar i Sverige g�tt emot Lagr�dets kritik inf�r en ny lagstiftning b�rjar bli allt fler. Bland exemplen finns undantaget f�r f�retaget Cementa att bryta kalk p� Gotland, den s� kallade gymnasielagen som gav vissa ensamkommande flyktingar tillf�lligt uppeh�llstillst�nd och nu senast lagen som g�r deltagande i terrororganisationer straffbart.

� I de fall man pekat p� allvarlig kritik s� �r det n�stan h�lften av fallen p� senare tid d�r man inte f�ljt Lagr�dets kritik, s�ger Patrik Bremdal, docent i konstitutionell r�tt vid Uppsala universitet, och forts�tter:

� Risken blir att vi kan f� lagstiftning som strider mot v�r grundlag, eller mot m�nskliga r�ttigheter. Eller att vi f�r lagstiftning som l�mnar �ver makten till domstolarna att fylla ut.

Framf�r allt �r han kritisk till det som politiker g�rna kallar f�r �snabbsp�r� som han menar anv�nds f�r l�ttvindigt.

�Ungern �r det klassiska exemplet�
� Om vi till�ter det h�r i normala fall, �ven om det inte �r en kris som till exempel pandemin. D� finns risken att en senare regering kan nyttja det h�r sp�ret och definiera vad allm�nintresse �r p� egen hand.

� F�r vi d� en illiberal regering som ocks� har majoritet i riksdagen kan den snabbt k�ra igenom en massa lagstiftning som kanske inte �r i linje med det vi kallar f�r en r�ttsstat eller en demokrati. Och det finns ju s�dana exempel i Europa. Ungern �r ju det klassiska exemplet som brukar tas upp, d�r det g�tt v�ldigt snabbt att f� igenom en massa lagstiftning.

Lagr�det �r mer f�rsiktiga i hur de uttrycker sig, �ven om ledamoten, tillika justitier�det, Stefan Reimer �ven han s�ger att han ibland kan undra varf�r det ska g� s� v�ldigt snabbt. Och det �r ocks� just tidsaspekten som han menar att Lagr�det oftast �r kritiska till.

� N�r Lagr�det varit v�ldigt kritiskt har man ofta haft v�ldigt korta remisstider. Jag h�rde n�gon som var en halv dag. Normalt sett �r det kanske 2,5 m�nader eller ett par veckor i varje fall om det �r lite mer br�dskande lagf�rslag.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2023 21:50

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

i dont think asking if a poster who is the subject of some drama is doing alright in a more casual regional thread should be probed

rule II C 1 posted:

Don't post about posters. Arguments in D&D are meant to stand on their own rather than on the credibility of the posters who make them, because they are pseudonymous, and knowing forums lore should not be a requirement for participating in or understanding D&D. This rule is waived in cases where someone claims specific expertise in what they're talking about.

is clearly talking about posting about posters as a form of argument, which the post in question did not do

i dont think you intended anything bad but you seem a bit tactless sometimes

tempura to help make things nicer

Megamissen fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Mar 11, 2023

# ¿ Mar 11, 2023 23:03

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

SplitSoul posted:

6.6 billion kroner for a hospital delayed for 6 years and apparently built to Sochi standards. A little mold's fine, right? _{How about a lot mold?}

https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/regionale/nordjylland/graes-vokser-ud-af-murvaerket-og-isoleringen-kan-vrides-vand

just 6.6 billion?
this sounds like a good opportuinity to bring in boston consulting group and rectify that

# ¿ Mar 16, 2023 10:29

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

His Divine Shadow posted:

That poo poo cost money and you needed to finance tax breaks.

reserve capacity being viewed as inefficency has been a very bad trend

# ¿ Mar 26, 2023 16:18

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Jack Trades posted:

https://omni.se/fritt-fram-att-avlyssna-icke-brottsmisstankta-i-host/a/O8mr1q

quote:

F�rslaget bygger p� en utredning som den f�rra S-regeringen tillsatte.

sossarna keeping up their 80 year tradition of facism trains

# ¿ Apr 5, 2023 17:52

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Jack Trades posted:

https://www.aftonbladet.se/minekonomi/a/8JjzpE/kedjorna-lovade-lagre-matpriser-hojdes-istallet

hey its the thought that counts :colbert:

if the press learn to not just credulously report press releases that would be great

# ¿ Apr 18, 2023 22:06

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ¿ May 21, 2024 05:59

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/svt-stoppar-publicering-pa-grund-av-spionerilag

svt has self-censored a part of a story (usage of images from the discord leak) because they were worried it might break the new spionlag

# ¿ May 1, 2023 16:59

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Scandinavia: I know I shit on Denmark a lot, but I think they deserve it

«‹›2 »