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Wikkheiser posted:I'm OK with it because I listen to enough right-wing radio to know it's stuff like this that really freaks them out. ding ding ding
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hey, i love pride. even when capitalists co-opt the poo poo out of it. but nah i'm still gonna stay mad at fraudulent-rear end vultures like goldman sachs doing it.
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Al! posted:No war but identity war this is hilarious because GS is literally co-opting identity politics in order to shill for their company but hey whatever
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Jun 29, 2016 22:05
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Classic Comrade posted:hey, i love pride. Congrats, you're mad on the internet
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I think if there were a Venn Diagram of "People who get genuinely angry at this" and "People who say stupid poo poo like gay marriage is just for 'mainstream' gays and all" it'd be a perfect circle labeled "shooting us in the foot to feel superior"
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Jun 29, 2016 22:06
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I think if there were a Venn Diagram of "People who get genuinely angry at this" and "People who say stupid poo poo like gay marriage is just for 'mainstream' gays and all" it'd be a perfect circle labeled "shooting us in the foot to feel superior" um.... no? gay marriage was a good first step and had a lot of awesome things about it. but if you can't see why people wouldn't like fraudulent, horrible companies playing "ally" (lol) then i don't even know what to tell you. and lmao, you of all people getting mad at people for acting "superior".
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I believe everyone should have equal rights! To step on the necks of the poor! Tatum Girlparts posted:I think if there were a Venn Diagram of "People who get genuinely angry at this" and "People who say stupid poo poo like gay marriage is just for 'mainstream' gays and all" it'd be a perfect circle labeled "shooting us in the foot to feel superior" lol "You sound like bad people so you are a bad person."
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I think if there were a Venn Diagram of "People who get genuinely angry at this" and "People who say stupid poo poo like gay marriage is just for 'mainstream' gays and all" it'd be a perfect circle labeled "shooting us in the foot to feel superior" nah i'm in that second circle
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Jun 29, 2016 22:09
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If you consider yourself a leftist. And you are satisfied by people that are content to destroy the lives of millions saying a Good Thing that cost them Nothing. Then lol.
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Jun 29, 2016 22:11
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wanting good allies and not wanting lovely corporations to pretend that consumption is all there is to activism is apparently shooting myself in the foot 
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NumberLast posted:If you consider yourself a leftist. uh numberlast ur being an ~ideological purist~
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NumberLast posted:If you consider yourself a leftist. Who's satisfied? But if you're a leftist and you see someone making a token gesture at signalling inclusivity and decide that's a bad thing? That's really lovely.
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Jun 29, 2016 22:12
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Pinterest Mom posted:Who's satisfied? lol It's not bad that Goldman Sachs did a good thing. It's just not good, either. After all, the truth is in the middle.
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Jun 29, 2016 22:13
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NumberLast posted:lol It's not bad that Goldman Sachs did a good thing. I'd like to refer you to the premise of this thread, which is that Goldman Sachs did a bad thing by flying the pride flag.
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Jun 29, 2016 22:14
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NumberLast posted:If you consider yourself a leftist. who the gently caress is 'satisfied'? Again point to the people who are saying "AT LAST, TRANS RIGHTS IS FINISHED" with this because literally all I'm seeing is a couple fluff pieces saying 'oh, neat' and a bunch of internet revolutionaries having meltdowns.
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Your response to abusive organizations making token gestures like this should be "That's nice" while you throw metaphorical molotovs at their windows.
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also just in general if you put dollar signs in or around names as a sick burn you're almost always an insufferable weirdo
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Tatum Girlparts posted:who the gently caress is 'satisfied'? Again point to the people who are saying "AT LAST, TRANS RIGHTS IS FINISHED" with this because literally all I'm seeing is a couple fluff pieces saying 'oh, neat' and a bunch of internet revolutionaries having meltdowns. Wow, calm down. Don't you know being mad makes you wrong?
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No, Goldman couldn't have flown that flag 5 years ago but that's why they didn't. Yes, it's a sign that trans people must be winning ground, but it's also an example of the wolf in sheep's clothing, a predatory institution dressing itself in socially progressive clothing to erase their own lovely behavior. Gay-friendly Israel has the most moral army and most moral occupation http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2070415,00.html http://www.haaretz.com/news/stop-using-palestinian-gays-to-whitewash-israel-s-image-1.6887 Corbyn is a brocialist and not feminist enough (despite appointing a majority woman shadow cabinet) http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/12/jeremy-corbyn-not-one-female-voice etc
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NumberLast posted:Wow, calm down. Don't you know being mad makes you wrong? for someone who spends a lot of time still getting mad about those dang establishments putting words in people's mouths and all you're very upset at people who don't exist at all that are 'satisfied' or reacting to this in any way other than 'huh, neat'.
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Oh also lol if you don't think Goldman Sachs didn't do this to make money. Yeah it's good that they can do this now. It's not because they care about trans rights that they did it, though. It's a cynical attempt at cheap PR and it seems to be working because lovely corporatists care more about us all having equal rights than us all having human rights.
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NumberLast posted:Oh also lol if you don't think Goldman Sachs didn't do this to make money. who is saying they didn't?
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Fast Luck posted:No, Goldman couldn't have flown that flag 5 years ago but that's why they didn't. Yes, it's a sign that trans people must be winning ground, but it's also an example of the wolf in sheep's clothing, a predatory institution dressing itself in socially progressive clothing to erase their own lovely behavior. i'm very confused. what is the actual threat here? what is the danger?
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All I'm seeing is "IF YOU GET ANGRY WHEN lovely PEOPLE TRY TO CO-OPT YOUR MESSAGE FOR THEIR OWN GAIN THEN YOU HATE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE"
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Tatum Girlparts posted:a bunch of internet revolutionaries having meltdowns
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i feel like this line of thinking would result in being angry whenever a major corporation did anything, ever. that seems tiring.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:who the gently caress is 'satisfied'? Again point to the people who are saying "AT LAST, TRANS RIGHTS IS FINISHED" with this because literally all I'm seeing is a couple fluff pieces saying 'oh, neat' and a bunch of internet revolutionaries having meltdowns. 
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Classic Comrade posted:corporations can never be allies. they are allied to capital, and to themselves. I still remember a conversation I had with my gay best friend / roommate just over ten years ago where both of us solemnly agreed that gay marriage in Massachusetts was a bad idea because it was too much too soon and would hurt, not help acceptance a decade later, leftists are getting butthurt at the idea of a major corporation flying a trans flag because they're simply pretending to openly acknowledge transgender people as human there's a grain of truth somewhere in there I guess, but instead of being mad on the Internet I'm gonna go high five my friend and check if he's getting married yet
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NumberLast posted:All I'm seeing is can you explain why you felt the need to say NumberLast posted:Your response to abusive organizations making token gestures like this should be "That's nice" while you throw metaphorical molotovs at their windows. as if anyone at all was saying anything more than 'yea that's nice'? That's the problem here, a bunch of pseudo-revolutionary internet people have created this world where obviously everyone is saying 'ahah at least the struggle is over, Goldman-Sachs put up a trans flag!' and people like you have to come in as the voice of wisdom to say 'did you know the struggle isn't over yet'? Do you know who does that? People who aren't part of the struggle to begin with.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:who the gently caress is 'satisfied'? Again point to the people who are saying "AT LAST, TRANS RIGHTS IS FINISHED" with this because literally all I'm seeing is a couple fluff pieces saying 'oh, neat' and a bunch of internet revolutionaries having meltdowns. You, friend.  You're dancing in a meadow because the fight is over, now. Why else would you not get why people are upset about the co-opting of a message of love and unity that people have spent decades building for a bit of PR?
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NumberLast posted:I believe everyone should have equal rights! Mmmmmmm yes I love this line of thinking tell me more
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PleasingFungus posted:i'm very confused. what is the actual threat here? what is the danger?
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Please use the words labor aristocracy to refer to a guy who works 40 hours per week and his back is killing him
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Fast Luck posted:The threat is something like Corbyn getting chucked out, Israel running an apartheid state, Goldman defrauding the world, so on, and progressive people being sold on it all as being okay. I'm glad trans people have you to remind them that Goldman flying a flag doesn't mean capitalism is over. Good work.
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Fast Luck posted:The threat is something like Corbyn getting chucked out, Israel running an apartheid state, Goldman defrauding the world, so on, and progressive people being sold on it all as being okay. is anyone trying to chuck Corbyn out or is this some 'the SJWs are ruining things' and 'regressive left' pearl clutching? All you posted was one thing saying he could stand to have more women in actual positions of power and influence.
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PleasingFungus posted:i'm very confused. what is the actual threat here? what is the danger? I honestly don't really think there is one. I'm just here to lol at people that consider themselves leftists while not understanding why actual leftists would be upset by cynical cash-grabs initiated through the use of their identity. 
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Classic Comrade posted:this is hilarious because GS is literally co-opting identity politics in order to shill for their company but hey whatever
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