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1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Princess Di posted:

You guys are mad that it's a transgender flag which is evidenced by the fact that you are floating the tired identity politics garbage theories floated by the right and racists. Why do I know this in spite of the cautious scuttling around the subject?

Context and critical thinking.

Class equality and human acceptance are not mutually exclusive and are in fact mutually beneficial.

But continue, pretend that any black person that speaks French fluently can head to France or Switzerland to get a job just because these are socialist countries and only class inequality is a viable human obstacle. You guys only prefer Bernie merely because he is a man as well as pro-gun.

The saddest part is that Bernie believes in cooperation and civil rights, some of his supporters though, not so much.

holy lol

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the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014


from the gawker article, this one is good too: https://medium.com/@deeperblue/we-are-the-left-is-a-twitter-beef-and-thats-all-17a5430d0e1a#.i2fsnnrxd

basically woke twitter is a loving wasteland and it's probably for the best that these people will never be involved in actual activism beyond hashtag slapfights

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Princess Di posted:

France or Switzerland

socialist countries

you are a god damned idiot

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Anti-racism and LGBT rights and acceptance are included in the agenda of today's leftist orgs and movements to a near universal extent, and yet there are people defending Goldman Sachs while attacking socialists etc on these issues. It's a wild world

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Meanwhile a 15 dollar minimum wage had to be fought for tooth and nail. Maybe a living wage needs to work on its branding?

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

I think it's less the branding that's the problem, and more the impact it'd have on the wage expenses of media corporations, of their advertisers and sponsors, and of the donors and benefactors of the political class, and of the motives that trickle down from that political class to their staffs and supporters.

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
Imagine being such a complete and utter tool that you gleefully go to bat for Goldman Sachs and the US military-industrial complex because they flicked a table scrap at you.

bernie killed rosa
Feb 23, 2003

Fast Luck posted:

Anti-racism and LGBT rights and acceptance are included in the agenda of today's leftist orgs and movements to a near universal extent, and yet there are people defending Goldman Sachs while attacking socialists etc on these issues. It's a wild world

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


CORRECTION: Two readers individually and separately requested spotlights given to biphobia and sizeism, with both people citing these issues’ larger invisibility in progressive communities; we’ve incorporated that here, with an additional spotlight on biphobia in our list of oppressions straight people should and must address.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

The Kingfish posted:

CORRECTION: Two readers individually and separately requested spotlights given to biphobia and sizeism, with both people citing these issues’ larger invisibility in progressive communities; we’ve incorporated that here, with an additional spotlight on biphobia in our list of oppressions straight people should and must address.

Lol these people dont have a single loving clue about biphobia

bernie killed rosa
Feb 23, 2003
there's nothing wrong with social justice if it has economic justice to back it up. you can't affect one without affecting the other, hence intersectionality.

those "we are the left" people that want social justice only are entirely missing the point. also goldman sachs is bad

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
If you think about it for half a second, economic justice, i.e. minimum income, universal healthcare, is the greatest social justice of all. :allears:

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

The Kingfish posted:

CORRECTION: Two readers individually and separately requested spotlights given to biphobia and sizeism, with both people citing these issues’ larger invisibility in progressive communities; we’ve incorporated that here, with an additional spotlight on biphobia in our list of oppressions straight people should and must address.

Please tell me this is real

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015



See for yourself.

Princess Di
Apr 23, 2016

by zen death robot

Homework Explainer posted:

you are a god damned idiot

Social democracies, which to you all equals socialist, so same diff.

Princess Di
Apr 23, 2016

by zen death robot

Powercrazy posted:

Meanwhile a 15 dollar minimum wage had to be fought for tooth and nail. Maybe a living wage needs to work on its branding?

If this was about Goldman Sachs then posters in here would choose one of the litany of areas in which they have proven themselves to be giant cesspools of evil.

But, the issue today is,


The transgender flag.

Why?

Princess Di
Apr 23, 2016

by zen death robot

Marinol posted:

there's nothing wrong with social justice if it has economic justice to back it up. you can't affect one without affecting the other, hence intersectionality.

those "we are the left" people that want social justice only are entirely missing the point. also goldman sachs is bad

Absolutely no one wants only social justice.

Poverty goes hand in hand with social injustice, so both have to attacked simultaneously.

bernie killed rosa
Feb 23, 2003

Princess Di posted:

If this was about Goldman Sachs then posters in here would choose one of the litany of areas in which they have proven themselves to be giant cesspools of evil.

But, the issue today is,


The transgender flag.

Why?

i'm a trans woman and i find goldman sachs flying the trans flag like it washes their hands of all the bad things they do is pretty offensive, to be honest

like it seems like a really obvious power play. "we're not the bad guys here! we support trans people!"

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe

Princess Di posted:

Social democracies, which to you all equals socialist, so same diff.

:sweatdrop:

Princess Di
Apr 23, 2016

by zen death robot

Fullhouse posted:

from the gawker article, this one is good too: https://medium.com/@deeperblue/we-are-the-left-is-a-twitter-beef-and-thats-all-17a5430d0e1a#.i2fsnnrxd

basically black twitter is a loving wasteland and it's probably for the best that these people will never be involved in actual activism beyond hashtag slapfights

You make my point for me...:chloe:

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Princess Di posted:

i'm a dipshit

let's see if i just change some words around here... i can make you say something different

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Karl Barks posted:

let's see if i just change some words around here... i can make you say something different

looks the same to me

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Princess Di posted:

You make my point for me...:chloe:

looks the same to me

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Princess Di posted:

Social democracies, which to you all equals socialist, so same diff.

Actually no. Not while they still have private property.

Princess Di
Apr 23, 2016

by zen death robot

The Kingfish posted:

Actually no. Not while they still have private property.

Okay, I see the discrepancy.

To conservatives, there is little or no difference between a socialist democracy and a fully socialist country.

Therefore, as long as I'm reading the same ideas, theories, and empty convoluted narratives that are usually floated by the right from posters in this thread I am liable to speak as if I'm addressing a pack of alt right hyenas.

Just saying.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Princess Di posted:

Social democracies, which to you all equals socialist, so same diff.

nope

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Princess Di posted:

Okay, I see the discrepancy.

To conservatives, there is little or no difference between a socialist democracy and a fully socialist country.

Therefore, as long as I'm reading the same ideas, theories, and empty convoluted narratives that are usually floated by the right from posters in this thread I am liable to speak as if I'm addressing a pack of alt right hyenas.

Just saying.

yikes!

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe

Princess Di posted:

Okay, I see the discrepancy.

To conservatives, there is little or no difference between a socialist democracy and a fully socialist country.

Therefore, as long as I'm reading the same ideas, theories, and empty convoluted narratives that are usually floated by the right from posters in this thread I am liable to speak as if I'm addressing a pack of alt right hyenas.

please tell me where in this thread there are "ideas, theories and empty convoluted narratives" that are usually floated by the alt right in this thread

i'm pretty sure the modern alt-right is pretty gay and trans friendly even??

Princess Di
Apr 23, 2016

by zen death robot
You mean you don't see them?

:chloe:

Princess Di has issued a correction as of 10:22 on Jul 20, 2016

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


:chloe:

Cotton Candidasis
Aug 28, 2008

Princess Di
by Alfred, Lord Tennyson

MY good blade carves the casques of men,
My tough lance thrusteth sure,
My strength is as the strength of ten,
Because my heart is pure.
The shattering trumpet shrilleth high,
The hard brands shiver on the steel,
The splinter'd spear-shafts crack and fly,
The horse and rider reel:
They reel, they roll in clanging lists,
And when the tide of combat stands,
Perfume and flowers fall in showers,
That lightly rain from bankers' hands.

How sweet are looks that bankers bend
On whom their favours fall !
For them I battle till the end,
To save from shame and thrall:
But all my heart is drawn above,
My knees are bow'd in crypt and shrine:
I never felt the kiss of love,
Nor maiden's hand in mine.
More bounteous aspects on me beam,
Me mightier transports move and thrill;
So keep I fair thro' faith and prayer
A virgin heart in work and will.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

[a politically woke (editors note: this is a synonym for african american) poster]: people don't like this transgender flag being flown by a cartoon villain, I think this is evidence of, hmm. Racism, probably.

Control Volume has issued a correction as of 18:00 on Jul 20, 2016

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
Yeah id say black posters are probably pretty good at recognizing racism

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Cant loving believe all the gamergaters going around tweeting "assimilation is not liberation" today, in this, the current year

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Control Volume posted:

Cant loving believe all the gamergaters going around tweeting "assimilation is not liberation" today, in this, the current year

I'm not quite sure what you're talking about but I'm quoting this post for no particular reason

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

yeah i don't get it either

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Are yall confused about assimilation not being liberation or did you miss the joke and are rushing to deny the claim about tweeting anything like that at all or what

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

uhhh

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
Hey IT can we get a reboot of the control volume

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the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Princess Di posted:

You make my point for me...:chloe:

woof and yikes

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