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I didn't know there was a spoiler thread! I wish I started posting in here earlier. As an aside, I have been collecting a list of all the hints to Q's actual identity on reddit, and I thought I'd post what I've collected so far here. quote:1) Literal shadows from Delta in most Q team scenes (here are the shadows from Pop-off, for example). MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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Jul 1, 2016 21:06
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NRVNQSR posted:A few of these, like #13, are really hints that Zero is Delta rather than hints that Q is not Sean, which are two very different mysteries. Certainly when I got to "Who is Zero?" I knew full well that Zero was Delta, but I had no idea Delta was Q; in fact I was almost certain that Delta was Eric and that he had messed with his own memories to provide a cover story. I was combining both of them. Basically, these were supposed to be clues that Delta = Zero = Q
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Jul 1, 2016 21:16
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Uchikoshi also said Dio would be ZTD (although "not as we know him") but I guess that went nowhere either. That kind of makes it sound like maybe Delta was supposed to be Left or something at some point? I'm thinking that maybe Sean is Left, and after Delta died Free the Soul started to think Sean was his brother or something and cloned the hell out of him.
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Jul 2, 2016 19:23
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Here is something interesting. In the logo, there is a 4 in the place for 6. Delta is the 4th letter in the Greek alphabet, and 4 + 6 = 10, the number of participants.
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Jul 3, 2016 02:59
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exploding mummy posted:that's, uh an upside roman numeral 6. No, because the V is still pointing the correct way. Look a little closer. The line to the left is a cracky, and there is a faded line of the actual V.
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Jul 3, 2016 04:21
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So, apparently, after the "Don't shoot" path in triangle, the X-pass isn't announced on screen, but when Eric and Mira leave it can be seen in the background. Q has the X-pass BRO.
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Jul 3, 2016 04:33
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Shear Modulus posted:1. Since he's acting as deaf and blind one of the other team members would have to wheel him around with them. They hid any evidence of the guy in the wheelchair being pushed around when they move from room to room. They could have written around this by making Q team immobile, so there wouldn't be any pushing to hide, but nope. They don't necessarily had to have pushed him. I mean, they were knocked out every 90 minutes and awoke in a different room. This would have included Q (in their eyes at least). Also, in all teams, it didn't show them actually moving anywhere most of the time. This is contrasted with VLR (you see on the map them walking around EVERYWHERE). Usually, the pattern would be: wake up in strange room, find a way out, then snap to back in the lounge talking. It is consistent with C and D team. If they had a super secret 4th member like that, we wouldn't have known either.
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Jul 3, 2016 17:45
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Are there any scenes besides the one where Gab is chained to Q's wheelchair that they even acknowledge the guy at all? I rewatched it and a big wall prevents you from ever seeing anything more than the shadow of the wheelchair, but aside from that I can't think of anything. I made a reddit thread where we went to find clues. Also, someone just found this:  
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Jul 3, 2016 19:06
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Yeah, in the games I've played, there's always an in-universe reason for the twist: Ever17's plot revolves around tricking the player to get a desired outcome, VLR is much the same because the plot would derail if Sigma knew who/when he was from the get go, and 999 is kinda fudgy but Akane appears to be narrating directly to the player. ZTD, Delta is... blocking the surveillance cameras in a very specific way so he doesn't ever see himself? What? Why? Why does does Delta care if he can see himself in the footage or not? It's literally a twist for twists sake. I mean, VLR doesn't have an in universe explanation for why the screenshots of Sigma are all off. Not showing Signma is entirely for twists sake. There is also no way to even begin guessing the twist. I'd imagine Delta and Gab are tied up, as Delta doesn't want to have leave with everyone. He doesn't want to be lonely, so he keeps Gab.
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Jul 3, 2016 20:32
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sockpuppetclock posted:...So now that ZE is done.. I've been thinking of playing the Infinity series. The first one is Never7, right? I've heard that you should skip Never 7 and go into Ever 17. You shouldn't play Remember 11 before Ever 17. I've never played Never 7, but I've played the rest. Cake Attack posted:just play Ever17, it's the best one and even it's not great Remember 11 is my favorite, despite the biggest issue with it. MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jul 3, 2016 |
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Jul 3, 2016 20:34
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Momomo posted:So I just fnished the game. I didn't... miss a scene that established Delta was there the whole time, right? The first time I saw any mention of him being there was when I chose him in the Mexican standoff. Then I had to tell Eric who Zero actually was and that showed him for real. There is a long post about this topic on reddit. Momomo posted:edit: Also at one point Zero left a recording saying he was killed by Carlos in that timeline, but when did that happen? He chose to execute Q team instead of D team liked planned in that timeline.
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Jul 4, 2016 17:44
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So apparently the images on the slot machines relate to the 999 characters. Edit: OK, I just found out that Fanatic Bio R is an anagram for fabrication. Since that is supposed to be the part of the analogy that refers to the entire terrorist plot, it may be that the entire plot was a lie, and Delta was really just out to make sure he existed and for the lulz. MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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Jul 8, 2016 01:14
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Well that and Fanatic Bio R has a 100% death rate compared to Radical-6 and it's a religious fanatic which causes the extinction of the human race. What I'm saying is that perhaps the religious fanatic is a fabrication. Meaning, since Fanatic Bio R was a analogy for the religious fanatic, perhaps there is no fanatic who will destroy the world.
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Jul 8, 2016 02:43
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Terper posted:I just want a sequel where Carlos uses the transporter to go back in time to kill Hitler, but when he arrives, someone calling himself "Negative One" traps him in a Game together with Hitler, Truman, Mussolini, Tojo, Stalin, Churchill, de Gaulle, and Władysław  This sounds beautiful. Someone better right a bad fanfiction about it.
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Jul 8, 2016 17:49
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dyzzy posted:Nein Nein Nein You don't understand what joy this brought me.
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Jul 8, 2016 17:57
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dmboogie posted:I don't think anyone's surprised by the outcome of this. And here I thought that Dio didn't give a gently caress! (please don't hurt me for my bad pun)
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Jul 9, 2016 02:30
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U-DO Burger posted:I'm still confused as to how a 124 year-old man managed to overpower a grown woman in her, what, late 20s, early 30s? He isn't really 124. Uchikoshi said he is still alive in VLR, so it is implied that he used the transporter. I'm guessing when he was like 50 or something he used the transporter to go to the mid 2020s or something. This is a pretty late response, but whatever.
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Jul 11, 2016 07:43
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Thuryl posted:The puzzle room I was stuck on for the longest was the Bio-Lab, just because it took me forever to click in the right place to find the drat centrifuge manual even after checking a guide and knowing where I was supposed to look for it. Yeah that room was awful. I never though to put the plate into the radiator to reveal the message (there was no hint to do that) and I still don't understand what you were supposed to do with the animal vial things. I just brute forced it. On the other hand, the transporter room puzzle was awesome (and the first puzzle I did). I love math and other bases.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:10
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Cake Attack posted:monty hall has the real odds, dice roll is scripted at three tries, coin flip always wins your first time And I thought that I was actually lucky getting it correct first try. 
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Jul 15, 2016 03:51
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ApplesandOranges posted:If you go back and play the decision again after the first rig, does it go back to being a 50/50 chance? No, then it is locked into the original thing. So if you chose red first, red is always the winning toss.
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Jul 15, 2016 06:48
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This is ... complex.
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Jul 15, 2016 06:56
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https://twitter.com/Uchikoshi_Eng/status/753874556150878208 https://twitter.com/Uchikoshi_Eng/status/753875441543327744 So, Uchikoshi tweeted about a reddit thread I made to find clues forshadowing Q's identity, and said that the stuff posted was mostly right. 
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Jul 16, 2016 06:21
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Linguica posted:https://twitter.com/MFMegaZeroX/status/754182960270696448 Yes. And almost choked on a biscuit I was eating. It was painful. Edit: Also, I forgot that you can embed twitter posts now. I'll update my original post. MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jul 16, 2016 |
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Jul 16, 2016 06:36
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Indigo Cephalopods posted:reading that thread and I love seeing all the things people are pointing out that I completely loving missed. This one's my current favorite: I think the significance of Q is simply different in every game. In 999, it is a reference to "kyuu" or "九" (got to show off my IME skills  ).In VLR, it is the 16th room, and Q is the 16ith letter (meaning A is the 0ith, which is how programmers generally count). In ZTD dilemma, the significance is the an upside down lower case delta looks like a Q. 
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Jul 16, 2016 13:46
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 Credit to reddit user Chairus_Awesomus for this
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Jul 16, 2016 20:36
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Lareine posted:I've been poking around the subreddit and it seems that some people are unhappy about the ending? Since you seem to be active there, could you summarize the main problems people are having with the ending? The only problem I have with it is that Delta's plans and actions don't exactly make complete sense but I'm willing to hand wave that away by saying Delta is an rear end in a top hat who likes people to suffer. The main problem the subreddit generally has is that it drops stuff from VLR, like ?/Kyle, the fact that Delta was Brother, and the entire plan Delta made. So basically what Cake Attack said.
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Jul 16, 2016 22:36
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13/f/cali posted:I may not be remembering perfectly but the alien card with a value of 0 also resembles a lowercase delta turned 90 degrees. Eh, not really. You can see it in this video at 7:49 on the bottom right. It is definately a wind symbol, and has a portion that definitely prevents it from being a rotated Delta or Q symbol. Though, if I remember correctly, it was on Zero's study's final safe, so if the symbol has some other importance, it would be interesting. MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jul 16, 2016 |
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Jul 16, 2016 23:04
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Paul Zuvella posted:Seeing as ZTD sold like 14 copies, I wouldn't hold my breath. As far as I'm aware, the only system we have statistics for was the Japanese version of ZTD, which sold 9,000 in the first week on 3DS and Vita. That is about as well as VLR did. The game was made with the intention to sell in the West.
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Jul 18, 2016 06:15
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kirbysuperstar posted:http://steamspy.com/app/311240 It looks like the Crusader Kings 2 page is gone (because Paradox asked them to remove it), but when it was up, they had it at around 600,000 units sold before it was taken down (or less, even, as my memory is pretty fuzzy), when Paradox themselves said they sold 3,000,000 (2 years ago). If it is off by the same factor here, it sold like 70,000 units on Steam. This is really good, considering there are also the 3DS and Vita versions to consider, and the fact that VNs are usually considered very successful upon crossing 100,000. Edit: This is all wrong, and I'm an idiot. Read the next page to find out more! MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jul 18, 2016 |
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Jul 18, 2016 15:44
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Cake Attack posted:I don't think steam spy is that accurate but I also don't think ZTD did 70k on one of the three platforms it released on. It fits pretty well with my own internal algorithm based upon Steam reviews as well. For the first 500, if it is possible for it to get to overwhelming positive, it usually takes about 30,000 people to reach it. After that, usually, 1 in 300 people review it on steam. I got 63,000 using this. This algorithm has worked as a ballpark estimate for me with most releases where they don't have a Steam review achievement. At any rate, 611 steam reviews indicates a lot more than 14,000. Edit: I'm an idiot. Don't trust this. Read the next page to find out more. MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jul 18, 2016 |
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Jul 18, 2016 15:54
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Paul Zuvella posted:Please tell me more about how you can tell sales of a thing by how many people review it. Linguica posted:So you think it sold 5 times as many copies as steamspy says, because of your personal belief that ALL games have sold 5 times as many copies as steamspy says, for Reasons. I recognize the algorithm it is a pretty bad approximation, obviously it varies by how passionate players are and all. However, I'd say it is at least as accurate as Steamspy. Steamspy seems generally worthless in it's estimations, as it is often underestimated by nearly a magnitude (look at other games where official sales were announced, and compare them to Steam spy). At any rate, the 14,000 Steamspy sales doesn't really say anything. MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jul 18, 2016 |
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Jul 18, 2016 17:01
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Paul Zuvella posted:steamspy is at least collecting data at some level, it's way less worthless than your weird "algorithm" The point of it was to illustrate that Steamspy doesn't really work, as it very consistently underestimate's sales by a huge margin. Again, just do some statistical analysis, and doing something like multiplyiing it's numbers in basically every case where actual sales are known will get you closer to the actual estimate.
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Jul 18, 2016 17:16
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Linguica posted:* From poking around online, it looks like Steamspy estimated Crusader Kings II had ~1.2 million owners on Steam. Huh, it looks like at some point the numbers got mixed up in my head. I'm guessing I for whatever reason added up the expansion purchases at some point or something. I still feel like the Steam Spy numbers when the statistics initially were released were like 1/5 the actual sales numbers, but clearly I'm an idiot who can't be trusted. I still don't think we can say ZTD is poorly selling, because we don't know the Vita or 3DS sales, and Steam Spy still errs on the underestimate side.
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Jul 18, 2016 20:38
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Take a look at Carlos' Bizzare adventure
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Zero just wanted to explore the world of dat boi.
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