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The miniseries thing should be about worf Also all the other shows should be about worf too
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Do a cheers style show where he's retired from starfleet running a bar in san francisco Fisherman's Worf
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Jun 19, 2018 22:40
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Sir Lemming posted:Watching TOS and TNG back to back, it's striking how many risks they took vs. how they reboot things now. I guess it was different circumstances to some extent, as the cancellation of TOS was still a little more of an open wound, and sci-fi was all nerd stuff that nobody was going to watch anyway, and home video was almost non-existent so only the really die-hard nerds could ding you for continuity errors and stuff. The real answer is, no one actually cares about continuity issues if it's just ignored. Jump 100 years into the future, have a few nods to the past, and just do your own thing. Continuity gets nitpicked when the show itself leans heavily on established continuity and they decide to selectivity rewrite things because they don't actually care enough to work within their own self imposed boundaries. That's why I never understood the people going "you can't keep moving forward, the continuity is too heavy." Moving forward is literally the easiest way to shrug off established continuity. Don't bill your poo poo as "before Kirk and Spock" when you don't actually care about what that means for your story. You are leaning on continuity to inform the viewer on what to expect, don't act surprised when they get upset when it's precisely not that. It's like going into a restaurant and the waiter asking "You like burgers right?" and then have him bring out a big plate of hákarl.
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Jun 19, 2018 22:42
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Exactly. The problem with Discovery continuity-wise (there are plenty of others) is that they intentionally and explicitly placed it in a known period and then went out of their way to say it was in continuity. Then they did whatever the gently caress all that was They painted the bullseye on their own chest, criticism-wise. A new show need not do any of that, and seeing it sufficiently in the future gives you a lot of leeway
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Jun 19, 2018 22:53
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so what's the business with V'Ger being connected to the Borg or whatever because I'm watching the first movie and lemme tell ya, the Borg and their poo poo seem like a significant downgrade
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Jun 19, 2018 22:56
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Nodosaur posted:so what's the business with V'Ger being connected to the Borg or whatever People noticed that when V'Ger's origins are explained, it was made into what it is by a planet of living machines. A lot of people decided that this had to be the Borg. It's a "link" never actually suggested in any of the movies or shows.
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Jun 19, 2018 22:59
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Cythereal posted:People noticed that when V'Ger's origins are explained, it was made into what it is by a planet of living machines. A lot of people decided that this had to be the Borg. It's a "link" never actually suggested in any of the movies or shows. I thought the possibility was suggested by Roddenberry himself. I mean it doesn't count if it's not onscreen I just wondered if they put any thought into how it worked out.
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Jun 19, 2018 23:02
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Here’s a huge goddamn idea: Real life Parrises Squares, featuring play by play from LeVar Burton and color commentary from Frakes. ”The Anbo-jyutsu is an ILLEGAL MOVE!”
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Jun 19, 2018 23:05
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Gorelab posted:I just want to say that as a concept I kinda like Starfleet Academy even if it'd be CW show #10190812098225858. Red Squad: Riverdale of Tomorrow.
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Jun 19, 2018 23:13
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I feel sorry for the guy they got to play Xon in Phase 2. Not only do they completely write out his character so Nimoy can come back, they introduce Saavik in the next movie who is basically the same character but a lady.
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Jun 19, 2018 23:30
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The trouble with a Starfleet Academy show is that they wouldn’t be able to resist for more than about half an episode before the classroom door opens, and the principal walks in with a new cadet. “I’d like to introduce a new cadet for the command track. Please welcome James Kirk.”
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Jun 19, 2018 23:40
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A mix of TOS/TNG characters, plus DS9/VOY/ENT characters and some famous historical figures like Lincoln as recurring background characters, are kidnapped by aliens, mindwiped of everything after the age where they entered Starfleet, and forced to relive their Starfleet Academy days together in a simulation for sick and twisted 26th century alien network executives for purposes of reality TV
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Jun 19, 2018 23:48
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galenanorth posted:A mix of TOS/TNG characters, plus DS9/VOY/ENT characters and some famous historical figures like Lincoln as recurring background characters, are kidnapped by aliens, mindwiped of everything after the age where they entered Starfleet, and forced to relive their Starfleet Academy days together in a simulation for sick and twisted 26th century alien network executives for purposes of reality TV So, "Star Trek: Decendants"?
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Jun 20, 2018 00:29
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Riptor posted:Do a cheers style show where he's retired from starfleet running a bar in
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Jun 20, 2018 00:42
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Nodosaur posted:so what's the business with V'Ger being connected to the Borg or whatever Shatner Also another writer in a completely unrelated novel wrote a novel about another planet killer (the snow cone from TOS) and how they were weapons created by some long dead civilization to kill the Borg. I think one of Guinan's race found a derelict one and went on a mission of revenge with it. Basically the Borg get stuck in a lot of writers' heads when they think about the weird poo poo TOS brought up.
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Jun 20, 2018 01:10
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gently caress it, just do a police procedural. NCIS: Starfleet.
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Jun 20, 2018 01:12
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Pakled posted:Also I like how Buck Bokai was supposed to be the best baseball player ever, but then we see him at the supposed height of his career and he's a chubby 45-year-old 5'7" guy. The PEDs theyre using in his time must be insane. Maybe the rules changed in the future, so they call him "best" in that context. Sort of like how Babe Ruth would be completely obliterated if he faced a modern pitcher, but everyone is still all BABE loving RUTH!!!!!!
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Jun 20, 2018 01:24
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Pakled posted:gently caress it, just do a police procedural. NCIS: Starfleet.
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Jun 20, 2018 01:25
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Pakled posted:gently caress it, just do a police procedural. NCIS: Starfleet. One's a Changeling fascist, one's a Ferengi bartender, together, they fight (and commit) crime!
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Jun 20, 2018 01:34
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How about just filing a few serial numbers back onto Sector General?
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Pakled posted:Also I like how Buck Bokai was supposed to be the best baseball player ever, but then we see him at the supposed height of his career and he's a chubby 45-year-old 5'7" guy. The PEDs theyre using in his time must be insane. Jose Altuve, the reigning AL MVP, is 5’5”. Bartolo Colon is a 45 year old lardass who had a perfect game through 8 innings earlier this year, and is easily the best pitcher on his team. Nolan Ryan was dominant in four decades and finally retired when he was 46. Not to mention Babe Ruth was a functioning alcoholic who ate like poo poo and still went down as one of the all time greats. Baseball is the one sport where your physical attributes can be easily compensated for if you hit like a truck or pitch like a machine.
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Jun 20, 2018 01:49
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Nolan Ryan once punched a man and became America's Greatest Baseball Hero. Let's all watch it and celebrate it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3niGu9d_pY
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Binary Badger posted:If Kirk did his job by reporting them in his log, the UFP probably declared the Excalbian system off limits for fear of any other warp capable people getting caught in their 'we don't know what morals are, please become our toy soldiers and die with spears in your backs so we can learn' bullshit. This sounds like an STO Expansion...
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Astroman posted:This sounds like an STO Expansion... STO can't afford Shatner so no Kirk.
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Jun 20, 2018 02:34
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why do people dislike Kruge again? It feels like he set the mold for any Klingon antagonists that followed. And Christopher Lloyd acted the gently caress out of that part.
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Jun 20, 2018 02:44
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Clone High: Trek Edition
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Sash! posted:Nolan Ryan once punched a man and became America's Greatest Baseball Hero. I mark for the headlock every single time
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Jun 20, 2018 02:45
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The_Doctor posted:Talking of which... Nice, it's a TAS-aware crossover. That's the Uhura stand-in, M'Ress on the left. I named a cat after her once upon a time.
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Sash! posted:Maybe the rules changed in the future, so they call him "best" in that context. Sort of like how Babe Ruth would be completely obliterated if he faced a modern pitcher, but everyone is still all BABE loving RUTH!!!!!!
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James Doohan and Majel Barrett aren't going to be able to voice every character though 
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Nodosaur posted:That's ironic, because it was the newer stuff that introduced more moral conflict, shades of grey, actual war, and less "humans are ideal and perfect" than The Original Series did. someone_who_hasnt_watched_tos.txt
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The_Doctor posted:The trouble with a Starfleet Academy show is that they wouldn’t be able to resist for more than about half an episode before the classroom door opens, and the principal walks in with a new cadet. “I’d like to introduce a new cadet for the command track. Please welcome James Kirk.” I mean there are worse things one can imagine than Kirk serving as the Chuck Bass/Ryan Atwood of a series.
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stuart scott posted:Jonathan Frakes hit the treadmill bitch I for one think Kurtzman is a perfect fit to handle the return of Picard. Yep, good ol' revenge-crazy, tank-top-wearing, bad-guy sluggin' dune buggy enthusiast Picard is BACK baby!
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Kibayasu posted:Also another writer in a completely unrelated novel wrote a novel about another planet killer (the snow cone from TOS) and how they were weapons created by some long dead civilization to kill the Borg. I think one of Guinan's race found a derelict one and went on a mission of revenge with it. Basically the Borg get stuck in a lot of writers' heads when they think about the weird poo poo TOS brought up. It's crazy to think about it now, but when Vendetta (the novel you're referring to) came out, there had only been two onscreen Borg appearances , if you count BoBW as a single story.
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:someone_who_hasnt_watched_tos.txt I mean, TOS constantly goes on about how humans have changed, those who go against the grain are usually outsiders and antagonists, and all the casual racism and sexism is never called out. TOS doesn't really get into that territory until the movies.
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Jun 20, 2018 04:49
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star trek fan art: good, or bad?
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Jun 20, 2018 04:59
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The question is irrelevant. Deploy the fan art.
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Riptor posted:Do a cheers style show where he's retired from starfleet running a bar in san francisco Today's Special: Gowron's Blackened Free Range Swordfish. Slain by hand in honorable undersea combat, and sliced into thick steaks with Kahless's eternal blade. Seared over the white-hot skulls of enemies of the Empire and infused with a bloodwine-chutney sauce. Served on a bed of live gagh, with choice of dirty rice or baked potato on the side.
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Nodosaur posted:I mean, TOS constantly goes on about how humans have changed, those who go against the grain are usually outsiders and antagonists, and all the casual racism and sexism is never called out. TNG was way more beholden to "Gene's vision" than TOS ever was.
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