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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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Tom Guycot posted:

Someone needs to tell them to finish one of their dozen unfinished stupidprojects before announcing a new one.
Oh yeah, like their linear single-building megacity that's going to be 500 metres high and 170 kilometers long. And that is also open at the top. In a country famous for massive sandstorms.

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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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Tom Guycot posted:

I generally liked ENT, even ranking it higher than VOY (though thats not saying a lot), and definitely more so than discovery and picard.

Its got a lot of faults, but the thing is it has fun episodes I enjoy and rewatch, discovery doesn't have any episodes I can go back to. No, I take that back, I could probably watch that Mud episode again (even though i never have), but the rest of the show is just one long continuous slog that I couldn't even name you one given episode. I can sort of describe general plots, but I have no idea what episodes they're in or if they're even in one episode alone or across a couple. Even a good serialized show, I can't imagine just popping in a random episode of The Wire, or Breaking bad. Its so strange to just basically read like one random chapter in a book basically.

I'm honestly fascinated by someone who would just... boot up a random episode of discovery. Thats so weird to me.
The same applies even more so to Picard. "I'm really in the mood for some random Star Trek. What shall I rewatch? I know - Picard 2x07!"

Weirdly, my 'random timekiller Star Trek of choice' of late has been Voyager, because there's a bunch of episodes I only watched once when they were first broadcast and have forgotten 99% of what happens in them. Whereas TOS, TNG and DS9 I've seen every episode at least twice, and many probably more. Why not ENT, which has a slew of episodes I've never seen at all? Simply because I prefer VOY's kinda-okay McDonald's meal characters to the thin gruel of ENT's crew.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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No Dignity posted:

Picard 2x07 is a hell of a pick though, you get Head Baltar the shrink, young Picard telling his mother he doesn't want to be a 'prince' like his father but like her (a queen), perfectly justifiable spousal imprisonment because 24th century France doesn't have mental health services and weird vampire dream monsters. It's like the most batshit episode of the show
Ha, I should have looked at an episode guide - I thought 2x07 was the one where Picard spent the whole time in a basement being questioned by the FBI and then was just... let go.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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I've had some dealings with Hollywood people, and one of my takeaways was "how the hell do you find the time to watch all the stuff you're supposed to watch to keep up with current trends and your competition while at the same time working ludicrous hours making your own stuff?"

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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CLAM DOWN posted:

This is easily answerable if you simply assume space has air
There was some PS1 space combat game I remember getting unreasonably annoyed about because if you released the thrust button you just cruised to a stop in about five seconds.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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"Super-evolved into a salamander? No problem, a quick wave of my flashing light gizmo and you'll be right as rain."

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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RIP Discovery. I will always remember you for your turbolift dimension and the flame jets built into the walls of the bridge*.

And nothing else, because I hit da bricks after maybe six episodes in total.

*(Please tell me someone has a gif of the shot where the camera is panning around and little guffs of flame come from the walls in perfect synchronisation.)

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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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FISHMANPET posted:

I've always thought that the best creativity comes from limitations. As the creator on the inside, you may feel like you're more creative when you're not beholden to limited budgets, short timetables, strict episode run times, etc. But I think the advent of prestige shows on streaming services has removed a lot of the limitations that typically existed for broadcast television, and it's let creators get sloppy.
Blake's 7 was given the budget of the 1970s British police drama it replaced to deliver a galaxy-spanning tale of criminal rebels in a cool spaceship versus a monolithic fascist government.

Somehow, it pretty much managed it, because its handful of writers went "Okay, we have no money, so let's squeeze as much as we can out of the characters, dialogue and ideas instead."

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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V-Men posted:

Season1 is rough, what with the raider fighters exploding into perfect triangles. But I'd say the later seasons stand up fairly well.
Yeah, by the time you get to 'Severed Dreams' the CG (not just the rendering, but the choreography of everything that's happening) is as good as you could get on TV at the time, and still holds up pretty well because of the story it's telling. The only time it stumbles is whenever there's a closeup of a ship or part of the station - that endlessly-reused metal panelling texture does not hold up well to close scrutiny.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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It's funny how the actual uniform boots from TOS had at most an inch and a half of heel, but whenever anyone does a modern/cosplay representation they invariably at least double in height.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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Astroman posted:

All this talk puts me in a mood of "We really need a sci-fi show set on an O'Neil Cylinder."


Can't help thinking that's small enough in radius (based on the scale of the buildings) that the coreolis effect would mess with your balance something fierce. You think you're standing on a flat surface, but the radial movement would make it feel as if you're tipping in the opposite direction to the cylinder's rotation. All the buildings would have to be 'stepped' to compensate, and good luck getting an audience to understand why it looks that way without all but delivering exposition to camera...

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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MillennialVulcan posted:

Ezri was worth it for that scene alone.
The best thing is that while Sisko earlier kept *wink-winking* to Worf that Gowron is a problem who needs to be dealt with ifyaknowwhadImean, it was Ezri's cutting straight to the bone that finally prompted Worf to decide "I'm gonna kill that motherfucker." Ezri gets a lot of stick (though TBH I felt she was more interesting a character than Jadzia), but she absolutely nailed it here. She knew exactly what she was doing.

"I'm the station's counsellor... and I just counselled my ex-husband into killing the leader of the Klingon Empire" is stone cold.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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Eimi posted:

That unreality doesn't bother me but then I'm a sicko who only watches TOS with the original effects.
Same here. I recently watched 'Obsession' on Netflix just because it randomly had the original effects rather than the cheapo mid-2000s CGI.

drat, there's a longer gap between TOS-R and now than between the end of TOS and the debut of TMP.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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McSpanky posted:

Didn't Probert or someone else in the production say that really, it should've had a total crew, including nonessential mission specialists, civilians and rotating temporary assignments, of 5,000? 1,000 is practically a skeleton crew for a ship that size, mostly due to the stupendously voluminous saucer section.
Voyager was the size of the TOS Enterprise (even a bit bigger), but only had a third of the crew. I know, better automation, gel packs, yadda yadda, but even so that's a lot of empty space. It's like an average of ten people per deck, on a ship that's longer than a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier!

With three shifts, which seemed to be the thing, that's only 50 people actually at their stations at a time. Since the bridge and engineering always seem busy, there must be a lot of really lonely ensigns dotted about the ship.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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The viewscreen should be a giant 3DS, complete with 3D/2D slider.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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Not all redshirt deaths stick, though; Leslie and Galloway both came back (Galloway after being vaporised!). Unexplained resurrection isn't just for senior officers.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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swickles posted:

What do you mean unexplained? You know about the black mountain right?
I have tried to expunge that terrifying knowledge from the depths of my mind.

But still it clings to my soul.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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People keep doing HD renders of the B5 effects shots because *somehow* the assets and animation files found their way into the wild before Foundation Imaging went under, so it's not as if it would be impossible to incorporate them into a remaster. The problem seems to be that A: the people doing the renders technically shouldn't possess the files as they're WB property, so there are potential legal issues with using them (which is why they keep getting taken down from YouTube), and B: money.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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Doohan's 'Scottish' accent or his Canadian one?

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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Gaz-L posted:

Apparently the original Icheb is kind of a chud now, so idk, maybe it's for the best?
He started following me on Twitter, so I thought "huh, weird, but I'll follow him back, why not?" All he did was hawk NFTs, so I quickly unfollowed.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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Der Kyhe posted:

He also now keeps the portal door locked so that random people can no longer just waltz in.
"I was made to offer the past in this manner. I cannot change. ...Oh, wait, I can. Soz, duder."

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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Since JJtrek featured Simon Pegg, they should have gone with "Punch! That! poo poo!" to make ship go.

I'd use "Bang zoom, let's go-go!" myself.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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MikeJF posted:

(Although tbh I've actually kinda gotten used to Warp Me. Even the 'Maximum Warp Me!' during the finale crisis was a YEAH moment)
"Maximum warp me!" was great because it was like a stealth payoff to a running gag that you barely even notice until you think back about it as it's in the middle of a pretty drat thrilling action sequence. In the comedy cartoon!

Lower Decks rules.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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wesleywillis posted:

If people don't enlist in starfleet how the gently caress do they join?
Whenever they use a transporter it secretly adds Starfleet DNA to their genes.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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CainFortea posted:

The maquis were boomers who moved to a house 500 feet from the end of a runway, viewed the house while planes were taking off, bought it, and decided to buy stingers and shoot down the airplanes because they were mad at the sound.
The (Trek) Maquis are actually kinda dicks for naming themselves after the (real) Maquis.

The [ahem, edit] latter: fighting literal fascist invaders who took over their country and installed a government of brutal collaborators.
The [d'oh] former: colonisers who set up home in a disputed region and could have left at any time to go to a countless number of other habitable worlds when the borders were shifted by diplomatic treaty to prevent an open war, but instead decided to pour fuel on the fire by starting a guerrilla conflict.

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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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MikeJF posted:

It was a joke on Payndz mixing up former and latter.
Ahem. Clearly I had Pakled DNA secretly inserted into my genes the last time I used the transporter.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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Tighclops posted:

I miss the era before continuity got abused into nerd slop, odo pulling out a padd and owning worf with all the times the enterprise got taken over on his watch was a once in a lifetime event
In my headcanon, Odo has a padd with a list of the embarrassing failures of every single member of the command staff to hand. Not just as a data file; literally an individual padd he replicated and keeps ready in a drawer for when he needs it.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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CainFortea posted:

If you're going to have a diplomat on board they have to have authority. So if you have a full time diplomat that means there's someone running around on the ship with the ability to order the captain around, which is going to be weird if you don't see them frequently.

So you either have this character who can order the captain around just hanging around in the background, rarely on screen, but you know is there. Or you have someone who can boss the captain around, but has gently caress all to do when some nebula eats the ship.
You just described early Space: 1999.

In the first episode there's a guy called Commissioner Simmonds, who is basically Koenig's boss and whose job is to keep the nuclear waste dumps running at all costs and be an obstructive rear end in a top hat. He's trapped on the Moon with everyone else when the waste dumps blow and the Moon is blasted into space.

He then completely vanishes for several episodes, despite being, y'know, Koenig's boss and you'd think wanting a say in how Moonbase Alpha is run now that everyone on it is at risk of dying horribly at any moment. Finally he reappears for one episode where some friendly aliens, who just happen to be heading for Earth, have one spot left on their spaceship. Simmonds decides that he should get the spot rather than it be left to a computer making the decision on purely utilitarian grounds, so he takes hostages until he eventually gets his way. He then wakes up from suspended animation about an hour after the ship leaves Alpha because he's not quite compatible with the system, and is left trapped screaming inside a glass box begging for help over his radio as the ship powers away faster than any of Alpha's Eagles can catch up. It's then revealed that the computer would have picked Simmonds anyway because he's a useless piece of poo poo who's a bigger drain on Alpha's resources than anyone else. (1999's first season liked its bleak endings.)

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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"Earth tones." The very name is racist!

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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

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That KFC ad is incredible and should count as the 80th episode.

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