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I keep forgetting that the GBS star trek thread isn't here, and I've serious-posted loads there, so hello I suppose
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The_Doctor posted:Frats were banned before WW3, but stupid people still feel the need to club together to play stupid, dangerous games. This is largely to do with writer credits and royalties, I believe (happy to be corrected by people with better knowledge of writers' contracts in LA at the time than me) If we have Ro Laren, Fighty Bajoran Aligned with the Federation, my understanding is that every time we use her, the character's creator gets a cut. Hence Kira, Fighty Bajoran Aligned with the Federation. See also: Tom Paris, Young Super Flyboy Who Seeks Redemption rather than reusing Wes' Squadron Leader, Young Super Flyboy Atoning For Past Mistakes E: basically people crossed over between shows only when ratings would reward the expense simplefish fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 28, 2018 |
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Oct 28, 2018 17:43
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MikeJF posted:Only if they don't take care of it in the original negotiations. Ro was going to be on DS9 but the actress turned it down so they modified it into Kira. Fair enough. Do you have a source, I'd like to know more
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Oct 28, 2018 18:01
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Pick posted:Kira's way better than Ro anyway. It's not really a fair comparison, one's given the chance to grow on screen while the other isn't
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Oct 28, 2018 18:05
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hope and vaseline posted:From Sperg Alpha MikeJF posted:It's in a bunch of the making of stuff. Cheers guys
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Oct 28, 2018 18:13
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From a few pages back, but mostly I'm posting it so I can link to it in future. Some of you guys are way off base when it comes to jobs. You have 2 choices: 1) sit in your bedroom and stare at the walls 2) get a busboy job one or 2 nights a week at the most happening creole joint in town, with live music and happy customers where tips don't matter If none of your friends did something like gently caress off to Spain to work a bar, sleep with hot Spanish women, drink good wine, live in the same district as Picasso did and pluck at a guitar before an open balcony in the Old Town lazily whiling away a hot summer evening with your senorita painting oils on canvas at an easel in the nude - then man, what kind of friends did you have? Sure they aren't saving for a deposit on a house, they aren't advancing their career, but they're happier than you ever were you uptight anal gently caress. Admit it, you envy them. gently caress yeah I'd take a job at sisko's restaurant a night or 2 a week while I figured out what to do with myself in my 20s It's a tautology anyway: any job we see existing exists purely because someone wants to do it. Elderly people who volunteer at soup kitchens or are tea ladies at swanky offices can attest- they could collect pension at home or go interact with people even though they don't have to. Not everyone's a basement-dwelling neckbeard. So while yeah, we see concierges/receptionists/whatever in Trek, that's a job someone wants to do. But when it comes time to scrub plasma injectors on a garbage scow, you employ the EMH Beta Version 2 or whatever, because nobody wants to do it. So if the job exists, it's because someone wants it to, not because it has to. That's the friggin point of the Federation. Do what you want to, not what you need to, because your needs are taken care of. If you really want to talk socioeconomics then look at the FIRE movement. The "retire early" part of that causes so much controversy because these people who are financially independent still do poo poo with their days - and many critics say that's "not really retirement". Well gently caress, if retirement is sitting around waiting to die, I don't want it. That's about as far as I can imagine from a proto-Soviet hellscape. E: an aside, I'm fittingly posting this from outside the Starfleet Communications Headquarters, aka the Bank of China Building in Hong Kong
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Nov 9, 2018 09:36
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Baronjutter posted:I had a bunch of people over to my place the other night. I cooked them food, served it to them, made sure everyone's drinks were full, and did all the cleaning. I like to do this often. Not every day, or even every week, but often enough. I did this without a capitalist threatening me with starvation or homelessness. I imagine in the federation people also do things they have a passion for, including running a restaurant while some other people work a few hours once a week or when they feel like it just for the experience.
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Nov 9, 2018 10:03
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The Bloop posted:Also, there are things like the old books in Picard's ready room. Do only pre-scarcity generational wealth people own poo poo like that? This was answered before you posted The Bloop posted:In addition to land being scarce, so are many other things. Nerds gonna nerd even in the Utopian Federation. But just because one person cares, doesn't mean the general public do. For them, a Mona Lisa postcard or Van Gogh reprint to hang on the wall is enough.
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Nov 9, 2018 10:10
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Whalley posted:
See, I get the whole thing about "Computer, create an X capable of Y" and people's reactions to it. But really, it's not that big a deal. What did Moriaty actually get? Self awareness. Or, well, not that exactly, but the capacity to understand that he was a computer construct. That was the difference between him before modification and Data: knowing the boundaries of the simulation. All the computer did was allow him to react to the Arch, unlike other characters. It wasn't a guaranteed win (he lost, after all). But it was a matter of capability, not a matter of certainty as so many of these type of posts construe it.
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Nov 9, 2018 17:34
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McSpanky posted:Hmm yes, a perfect equivalence that holds up to absolutely any scrutiny whatsoever Buddy, that's  , you need to stop trekkin yourself so seriously
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Nov 10, 2018 16:42
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Brawnfire posted:"Number One" said Picard, gesturing deferentially to the powerful joystick. Riker smirked cockily, tugging down on his tunic and stepping over the back of the chair. His masculine bear-paw wrapped around the firm column, feeling the feedback nodes throb with the unceasing thrust of the mighty engine. Riker let himself slide into a place he only went when he played trumpet or made love; his adventurer's soul reached out, groping and mingling with the barely-restrained beast that was the Enterprise. Change "played trumpet" to "blew/slid his well-oiled trombone" ans you've got it
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Nov 20, 2018 16:06
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Bashir/O'Brien was fantastic. A bright-eyed, bushy-tailed know-it-all with no real-life knowledge befriends a grouchy, cynical bloke who never done too good at that schoolin' but has all the wisdom in the world. Youth vs Experience and all that. I really liked their drunk scene sitting on the floor singing Jerusalem* Then they had to go and take it all away by making Bashir a Super Savant who was faking and holding back the whole time, calling into question all his interactions with anyone up to that point. What a lovely piece of character "development". In my head Bashir is and always was just Regular Smart and in that, along with his over-enthusiasm, he embodies the Federation perfectly. He's the perfect foil to O'Brien (as mentioned) and Garak (for obvious reasons), but also Sisko, who has a lot of hesitation when it comes to the Federation and has to look at broader pictures than a close focus on solving "Crisis Of The Week". It shows that while Bashir is smart, he wouldn't be a better replacement for anyone on board because more things than brains matter. Then yeah, they undo all of that and he could apparently have done everyone's jobs at once, the whole time, no sweat. *despite the England's Green and Pleasant Lands vs Irish thing, but let's imagine in the future we've all moved past that simplefish fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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Nov 22, 2018 09:54
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The Bloop posted:What about that hunkin cutie Mayweather he has to be on screen to be seen
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Nov 28, 2018 05:25
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Pick posted:Even Shran has the hobble of not being the best Star Trek character played by the same freakin dude! Okay, but also no. We know you have Weyoun Fever, strains 1 through 8, but I really did prefer Shran.
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Nov 29, 2018 03:20
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Pick posted:Brunt is great too! Sorry, but I'll always be a Shran man
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Nov 29, 2018 09:39
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I am what most of you would call an ENT Defender. It was really getting into its stride in the final series when the writers got out all the good ideas they'd been sitting on (Vulcan desertfest aside) and it might have led somewhere But I'm not an ENT Apologist. You can't really, as a TV show, spend that long to hit your stride and not expect to get cancelled. Although someone's recently said it would have got renewed had its corporate overlord not folded. So maybe there would have been Star Trek Exceptionalism, like we're getting with DIS hanging around. Also ENT was the best VOY, when they got lost in deep space all outmatched at every turn and had to be wily or occasionally lucky to escape scrapes, and the damage added up, and reports of crew deaths were mentioned on screen, and the most important thing was that they hung together despite it all. There was only ever one real VOY episode, which was the one when they're sucked into an unknown void and have to start working on fragile alliances, but that was condensed into one episode and really should have been the whole thing. Anyway, once ENT got its 9/11 all out of its system, it could have been good. It maybe would have hit its stride sooner had it not been derailed by that. And even then, the 9/11 Archer poo poo wasn't half as heartless as Diktator Janeway, imho
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Nov 29, 2018 09:48
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:I thought they were just taught by aliens because they were so in tune with nature the aliens couldn't help but be impressed. To be fair this happens with Poverty Tourism today. What, you're trying to develop your cities to engage in international trade? Why is there this shop on your main street that is a global brand we have back hone? I thought Hong Kong was supposed to be all quaint little noodle shops run by toothless grandpas and neon from the 1960s because that's Traditional in my mind? No factories for you, every African country must be one big safari park for me to enjoy every other year! So people go further and further away from thinking about how development could benefit a people* and start thinking of it as an idealistic playground to visit for a taste of the past, while in "real life" they have fast internet and food standards and insulated housing. I can see aliens doing the same with Earth. *yeah it has drawbacks too
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Dec 1, 2018 02:39
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Sir Lemming posted:
In conclusion, Tim Russ best Star Trek actor-turned-director
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Dec 5, 2018 14:07
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TOS S1E25 Someone was saying on here a while back that with all the crazy poo poo that happens, Picard should have better protocols for when the seemingly impossible happens, rather than wasting time disbelieving crew reports. This is my first run through of TOS, and it's glorious. Less than one season into space, and they already know they can't trust: *Bridge officers are greeted by a colonist, shake hands. The colonist leaves* Kirk: "but these people shouldn't be alive." Sulu, without missing a beat: "Is it possible that they're not?" It's absolute gold and perfectly reasonable to ask and I love it.
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Dec 6, 2018 03:07
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It definitely helped that she was Gene’s wife, Nurse Chapel, the computer, and a fairly visible part of the franchise as a whole from TNG-onwards. And Pike's Number One who was a pretty good pretty major character I haven't seen her much as Nurse Chapel except for one where she gets obsessed with brushing her hair and looking in the mirror a lot and not saying very much. I'm hoping that changes after TOS S1
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Dec 7, 2018 03:10
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Q_res posted:Look at how dumb you are, Move Along Home isn't even in the 3 worst episodes of DS9. That'd be Meridian, Melora and The Muse. Woah woah woah the Muse is proper old skool Trek with DS9 finesse, don't bring that this to this table
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Dec 10, 2018 15:37
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MikeJF posted:It's like those people who change windows so that they single click icons instead of double click. Oh my god, I actually think you've solved it
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Dec 17, 2018 05:14
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Honestly it's taken a while for all Star Treks to get good, so Disco has until S3 to get some positive fan reaction or I'm just never gonna bother. And by "has until S3" I don't mean I'm watching it during that time - I gave it a couple of episodes and it didn't impress me enough to follow along - but if it gets enough people saying "yeah it started poo poo but it's really picked up now" then I'll go back and watch from the start because I'm just wired to be that kind of
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Dec 20, 2018 06:42
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The Bloop posted:Aside from turning goofy Harry Mudd into a mass murdering psychopath, yeah it was. mudd.jpg He had the record to support crazy poo poo, it always seemed to me that Kirk caught him on a good day
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Dec 21, 2018 16:21
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oh poo poo am I an STD apologist now?
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Dec 21, 2018 16:21
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Nullsmack posted:Apparently it was a massive effort to track down all of the sources of film and such to digitize for each individual episode of TNG. When it was being produced they'd do something for one episode but then the film would end up in another box because they reused it for another episode. Things were not always labelled correctly. Stuff like that. Not to mention redoing all of the special effects in HD. They'd have to commit to doing all of it and then hope that trickling it out one episode at a time would make enough money to be worth it. There are whole episodes of well-loved BBC sitcoms and episodic dramas that are lost because archiving wasn't a thing back then and magnetic tape/storage space got constantly reused after broadcast in the 1950s/60s/70s. Sometimes they turn up in the lofts of ex-employees or old storerooms but yeah I can easily accept that Trek scenes have been similarly lost, especially when masters were distributed around model shot/CGI/etc subcontractors/departments before the final TV-quality cuts simplefish fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Dec 21, 2018 |
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Dec 21, 2018 16:36
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Mark Lenard as Jim-Bob Sarek in 20 Kids and Counting Kirk: "Wow, Spock, I had no idea your dad was such a family man, having so many kids!" Spock: "It's only logical, Jim - after all, they're cheaper by the dozen."
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Dec 22, 2018 16:41
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It's the 1950s cars with nacelles that get me. Was the artist thinking, "TOS was Space '60s, thus it follows that Kirk at the academy was Space '50s!"
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Dec 24, 2018 03:13
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 "So which course of action are you suggesting we logically take?" "Whaddya got?"
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Dec 25, 2018 01:12
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Kibayasu posted:Looks vaguely East Asian so maybe Sulu? That was my thought too. And does he have a pack of smokes up his sleeve? Is Sulu the reason for no_smoking_on_the_bridge.jpg?
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Dec 25, 2018 02:48
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FlamingLiberal posted:I watched a YouTube rip of the video from the Star Trek Klingon game, and I was surprised how many actors who have previously played Klingons showed up in it. Feels like they took advantage of some of the guest actors being around. The cynic in me wonders whether their contracts said they'd be offered the first refusal to play the character if ever reprised
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Dec 25, 2018 02:49
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simplefish posted:That was my thought too. And does he have a pack of smokes up his sleeve? Is Sulu the reason for no_smoking_on_the_bridge.jpg? There it is
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Dec 26, 2018 01:12
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After The War posted:Real life versus the practicalities of a television studio, but let's not forge that the IBM AN/FSQ-7 used in the USAF Semi-Automatic Ground Environment (SAGE) air defense network had ashtrays (and lighters!) at each user station: Hey man if the world was about to end in nuclear fire I think I'd probably want a smoke too - especially if I had to have an active role in saying "sure, go ahead, wipe it out."
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Dec 26, 2018 01:14
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Big Mean Jerk posted:In fairness, I would also do a lovely show if the dumbass fans continued to give me easy paychecks. *pauses, turns to camera* *shrugs* (Morose, nasal voice): "It's a living" *turns from camera, goes back to work*
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Dec 28, 2018 08:26
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I like the idea of Borg as the system taking over its components. We have this already in real life. Why do we accept the world we are born into with its various social systems and laws? We just do. And it works, so we all keep on perpetuating it: we willingly limit ourselves, even under laws we disagree with - most don't break them. It'd be a really cool episode if they used the Borg to explore "freedom from..." in contrast with the Federation's "freedom to...", and the Vulcans being somwhere in the middle. Not sure about the story it'd be stretched over but it's a cool philosophical concept, and to me, exploring those is where Trek excels.
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Jan 4, 2019 06:20
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MikeJF posted:I don't know how it was executed, but I really do like what I heard about the EU reveal that the Breen are actually a whole bunch of species and the suits serve the purpose of letting them all act as a single species without discrimination or conflict between their members. And that's why the reports on Breen and their living conditions vary so wildly. It's the kind of idea the show might have explored. This is cool, but should it have been the Breen? I like how they're a mystery. It could have been a new alien and lost nothing. Good shows need some mysteries. It was a terrible mistake, in my book, that ENT went and 'answered' why the look of Klingons changed between TOS and TNG. "We DON'T talk about it." was a perfect response - acknowledgement that it wasn't the same on a meta level, and in-character and a better reply than "it just is" or "crappy spacebabble scifi reason". Even BBC's Sherlock, when he jumped off the building but was still alive, and they had an in-character fan try to interview him about it and offer a theory, and he just replied basically "sure, ok, that works, if that's what you want to believe" - that was equally perfect
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Jan 4, 2019 07:04
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You're all talking about a planet where what you imagine comes true. And saying "The Orville" but I think you mean TOS, with Bones and The White Rabbit and whatnot.
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Jan 6, 2019 03:28
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Jewel Repetition posted:Which side do you sleep on? I sleep in zero G
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Jan 7, 2019 05:02
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Just bouncing off plasma conduits all night long.
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The Picard Show: a thin Sci-fi glaze applied to the plays of Beckett, Pinter, and Rattigan. The pilot is based on Osborne's Look Back in Anger.
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