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Otisburg posted:

Orbital Support makes sense, and has probably happened in some episodes. The only one I can think of was Kirk ordering a phaser strike on the Hippy Planet's Computer God tho.

My favorite part was in the gangster planet episode, where they had an orbital strike with the phasers on Stun. And it worked! Because gently caress you, that's why!

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 21:40

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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Why the gently caress would a starship have a stun setting? What could you possibly use that for outside of this one specific case?

If you can't think of a bunch of use cases for an orbital stun cannon, you just aren't trying.

In addition to variations on the reason why Kirk did it, you could also use it to disable people who have gone insane due to psionic attacks etc. and are not to blame for their actions, but are engaging in organized military stuff. (You could also use it for riot control, insert bleak police state filter here.) It would also be useful against dinosaurs etc. on the surface who might need some studying and/or are fixing to eat the crew, but which you don't want to risk destroying the crew to take down.

Fine control over your death beams could also be useful for like, science and poo poo. Like those "phaser sweeps" they used to spot out dirty Changelings.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2016 21:32

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The shield thing actually makes sense as a way to kind of back justify why it's not all just an extension of modern military tactics in space. Even if everything was operated by combat computers you'd still need to take along a lot of power if you intend to survive any hits at all. I think the TNG guide also said that a navigational deflector is both automatic and connected to FTL sensors so that kind of messes up the ol' "kinetic kill on inhabited planet" option.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2016 01:56

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FilthyImp posted:

Ah, I see you're also a fan of Homeboys in Outer Space!

Should've replaced Voyager, in my opinion.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2016 06:18

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Knormal posted:

Yeah, but that's an exception to the rule (but definitely not the only one), and was only because it's an anagram of the 1701 stickers that came with the model kit. I'm not sure why they'd intentionally choose a lower registry number unless they wanted to imply an older ship, but who knows, if they threw that model together in three weeks maybe it's not even the final registry number. Maybe one of the modelers is just a big fan of Halloween.

Hey, it just so happens that when you change the molecular structure to make aluminum transparent it becomes brittle like glass. And just as weak as glass.

Also to be fair I don't think transparent aluminum was mentioned until the movie era, it's possible it wasn't around or widespread until then. Maybe it took that company a really really long time to work it out from Scotty's formula on that Mac Classic.

You'd think they'd have made the Constellation NCC-1710 then

Or bought another sticker but I guess that'd have cut into Gene's rubbers budget

# ¿ Jul 25, 2016 07:26

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Nazareth posted:

Hello, new to Star Trek and I'm watching the Next Generation from S1 onwards.

I'm aware of the Ferengi's lore to some degree, having watched a stray episode on the BBC. But I don't remember them being as uh... cartoony as in S1E4 where they were first introduced. When did their presentation change from the wriggling loony toons to just normal space yankee traders?

It's gradual over time, and a lot of the complex development happens in DS9, not TNG. That said by the end of TNG you'll be seeing the Federation having quite a different relationship with our favorite little space goblins.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2016 01:11

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Baronjutter posted:

What would that philosophy be be the way? The idea that it's ok for some people to have massive biological advantages over others so long as it's "natural" for their race, but trying to do it on purpose is playing god and horrible.

Why can Vulcans have super strength but humans can't? Why can tons of races of minor to major psychic powers but humans can't? And if all this technology does exist and is fairly easy to do why isn't every race that doesn't have the federation's hang-ups on engineering not turning them into super people. Do you really think the romulans would scoff at turning their race or at least their elite into genetic supermen?

This may be a bit old but I want to come back to this. I think the ideology here isn't that people can't be better, it's that you're not going to make better people by treating them like objects. It is a sort of respect of the individual person, as opposed to just splicing people up with every possible super power so they can... what? Sure, yes, it would be handy to be tough and strong and not get much hangovers, but their medical science can handle most problems that come up, Starfleet is like the Medic from TF2.

In the case of Bashir the issue is also compounded by the fact that his parents did it to him as a small child when he was incapable of meaningful consent, and while their motivation was affection, it was like the people who would rather their child die of measles than (falsely) suffer a risk of autism - they didn't want a "broken" child. Bashir was entirely justified in being deeply displeased with them, I'd say.

I do think that this stands out because it is a place where Star Trek, broadly speaking, has an ideological perspective which is against the thrust of the modern world, where outside of certain boundaries people are in large part defined by how well they work as objects. How productive are you, how much code can you crush, how much value do you add. Does this perspective have utility? Sure. But eventually, where does that utility go? Would Jules Bashir have been an unhappy person? Julian Bashir doesn't know and never will, because his parents killed Jules Bashir for being slow. It stands out in the context of the Federation, I think, because it is an atypical situation - their turbo-space-Obamacare would have healed or ameliorated genuine handicaps and if Jules Bashir just didn't have as much horsepower under the hood as some, well that's no awful thing, is it? In the modern world Jules Bashir's prospects would be much bleaker.

As for the question of other people upgrading themselves, the Ferengi seem reasonably content the way they are; the Romulans have presumably already done some poo poo to themselves. The Klingons, of course, had their own problems with genetic modification. But there is of course a very successful, very productive, very efficient culture portrayed in the Treks who do absorb everyone into themselves...

As for the prospect of becoming a superman, people just don't seem to actually become all that super-powered when they get spliced up. Kirk beats Khan in a fist fight, and arguably outsmarts him (at least in Space Seed). Even the Jem'Hadar are not completely insuperable individually.

# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 08:26

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Tsaedje posted:

There's no active thread for Babylon 5, but I guess this thread should have a lot of overlap. Garibaldi actor and lovely political view haver Jerry Doyle has died. There's not going to be any of them left in 10 years at this rate

This is a safe harbor for Babylon 5 chat until there gets to be so much of it that y'all can sustain your own new thread. Infinite Diversity in Infinite Spaceshows.

That's awful though. I never got much into B5 but I hear the cast were all like some kind of rock star-curse-having assembly. But maybe I just have had my perspective colored by people who were really into B5.

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It was probably helped by both the generally higher quality of DS9 and not having actually had a bloody gash torn in America. I mean 9/11 legitimately seems to have broken a lot of people's brains, such as Frank Miller's.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2016 06:18

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WickedHate posted:

So Gene's Federation future is meant to convince us that peace and love and socialism rock, but the existence of the Ferengi being a power with roughly equivalent tech evidently means that unrestrained capitalism works just fine too.

The Ferengi aren't really unrestrained capitalism, they're just a lot closer to what we'd consider modern day capitalism than the Feds. Quark is aghast at the prospect of selling tobacco, and Quark is more or less portrayed as John Q. Ferengi. "Unrestrained capitalism" here would either do some math to figure out the highest sustainable rate of death-stick sales, or try to goose death-stick sales immensely to make quarterly figures and then let everything collapse.

The big thing that seems to get your poo poo moving fast is having lots of different people cooperating, and I imagine the Ferengi would have gotten the same kind of effect the Feds did from having everyone in the Federation. I recall Quark confirmed that in 1947 or so, Ferenginar didn't have warp drive, so they're not drastically behind Earf.

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Yeoman Rand, you ninnies.

The whole Yeoman thing seemed weird anyway.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 02:23

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Echophonic posted:

I'm working my way through TNG and I just got to the one in season 2 where they loving mind wipe a child because Data violated the poo poo out of the Prime Directive. Why does the Federation have mind wiping advanced enough to work on aliens?

They probably just made a machine that reproduced a Betazoid technique.

The reason for it was probably to cover up prime directive violations, and probably a piquant tee-hee over parallels to modern UFO reports then current.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 08:02

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The_Doctor posted:

Hell, I'm imagining some Section 31 squad of MiB Betazoids they call in for when things go south.

"Excuse me, can I have everyone's attention for a moment?" <betazoid psychic flash>

Logically speaking the Federation's gotta have some kind of a Psi Corps, and Troi would have actually been improved, probably, if she was the psi agent on board. Which HAPPENED to include, primarily, counseling and therapy, BUT ALSO some of the stuff she did in S6 and S7 when they put her in the uniform.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 08:36

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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

I wouldn't say that's "logically speaking" at all, considering that Babylon 5 straight-up said that Psi Corps was the worst way to go about handling telepaths, and none of the alien powers were shown to have similar organizations.

I mean some kind of organization for the study and use of telepathic abilities. I never watched much B5 myself.

Like in this setting, psionics would just be another form of science, probably some kind of neurophysics thing.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 21:52

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Mukaikubo posted:

Not just Trek. A lot of actors who have one big job tend to not get another big job, just because there are not a lot of big jobs out there. And to an extent, it's luck; who can say which casting announcement will lead to the 7 year epic that's cherished by generations of obsessives?

I wonder if you can also get typecast. Other than Patrick Stewart, who was already the guy they brought in to class up the joint, have any of the other TNG folks had big roles elsewhere?

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 08:30

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Bargearse posted:

I just started watching TNG for the first time since watching it with my dad as a kid, and goddamn is Wesley Crusher a poorly used character. He's not a bad character, and I can't bring myself to hate Wil Wheaton, but he's way too well adjusted for a teen growing up on a spaceship. He should be smoking space-weed out behind the warp core and getting into trouble, not agonising over his Academy entrance.

Maybe he was the only teenaged hew-mon on board due to some quirk of demographics so he became a complete nerd-lord instead of causing poo poo. Or maybe he had to grow up fast because Beverly was a total hot mess at home and he had to step up.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 09:52

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Bargearse posted:

Also, was there a budget boost between seasons 1 and 2?

Doesn't look like it, but S2 did only have 22 episodes due to other poo poo going on, so they'd have had more money rattling around on a per-episode basis - especially since one of those episodes was a clip show.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 10:10

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Some was probably just people getting used to poo poo and realizing that, yes, this project was not going to collapse in three episodes.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 10:32

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McNally posted:

Didn't Kirk pull a handkerchief from a trouser pocket during his inspection of engineering during Star Trek II?

Besides which, I gather Gene was much less of a wiener during the TOS era.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 02:40

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Ogmius815 posted:

I mean a few pages ago you were saying that Jadzia is better than Ezri so I guess this is the wrong Star Trek opinions mega thread now.

That's a bit of a fun idea isn't it, the worst Star Trek opinions. Unfortunately mine is that TAS is astonishing and beautiful, and I'm pretty sure that's more "objectively correct"

# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 22:29

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The General posted:

TAS is Trek condensed down to twenty some odd minutes and works because of it. Also we learn that Satan is a pretty cool guy.

I did appreciate the strong implication there that the vast majority of Earth mythology and experience of supernatural beings was in fact due to some assholes who eventually wandered off several hundred years before the modern day, which would simultaneously justify hew-mons having special seasoning compared to some aliens, and completely obliterates most major religious movements.

Then again that seems to be true of other religious groups, doesn't it. The Vulcans have their logic disciplines but those are closer to Buddhism than anything; the Klingons claim to have killed their gods; the Bajorans were in fact connected to strange acausal wormhole entities. And they had that poo poo on network TV!

# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 22:36

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The_Doctor posted:

I can see Klingons embracing homosexuality wholeheartedly. The love between two men is the manliest love! A warrior's love!

To engage in intercourse without protection would be without honor.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 23:53

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FlamingLiberal posted:

One thing I don't understand is why they have like 100 Mirandas and 100 Excelsiors in that battle but there's maybe one Akira, one Steamrunner, and one Sabre class in all of those shots combined. Considering I think that's mostly, if not all, CGI I'm surprised it's so heavy on those two classes.

I don't think Steamrunners existed prior to STO, though they might've been based on Background Ship #7 or something.

I figure they got Miranda and Excelsior models looking good, and they were relatively consistent. Perhaps they had a huge surplus of the both of 'em.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 01:18

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MikeJF posted:

I did have to think, watching Beyond, that when the saucer crashed, Generations did it cooler. Beyond was good... but Generations did that cooler.

Regarding that: I think the difference is that the Ent-D's saucer was where we'd been watching our buddies do Star Trekkin' for 7 years, while the JJ-Ent's saucer was the site of two movies and some previous scenes. So there was more weight to it and also more focus on the specific situation of crash landing.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 02:41

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Is Babylon 5 the one that had Penn and Teller in some episode, or was that some other fanatic franchise?

# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 06:33

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FilthyImp posted:

Threadmasters, perhaps you can tell me about this game I saw someone play in my school library's mac around 1994.

It was a top-down StarTrek, with either the TOSprise or Galaxyprise, in kind of a faux 3D gourad shading color. Warped around, dropped people off at planets, used phasers or torps.

Can't for the life of me remember a name though.

Was it kind of turn based? Did you have to go to a starbase to reload and stuff? I think similar games have been around for a long while, though the graphics have steadily improved. Not so much now, of course.

# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 22:50

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Apollodorus posted:

Personal log, Stardate 47391.2

I am returning from the bat'leth competition on Forcas III.

The conditions were difficult.

Several contenders were maimed.

One contender used an illegal t'gha maneuver on me.

The judges chose to ignore it.

I was robbed of my rightful standing. I was awarded Ninth Place.

Were you actually on this team or are you just pulling cheap comedy, I don't go outside much

If so hey, I hope you had fun and I also hope you didn't contract a Tellarite gut pox.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 21:34

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MikeJF posted:

http://twitter.com/BryanFuller/status/763579493025878016

I GUESS IT'S CANON NOW, HE SAID IT

Updating OP accordingly in a minute

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 08:44

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Chromatic posted:

I've always hated that design. It looks like it has a fat belly and the engineering section looks like a compacted slinky.

I'll nominate the Nebula class as awful as well. It looks like a Galaxy Class that's cowering in fear.

A fat belly full of science and federation freedom.

I like the Excelsior's look since it's clearly related to the Enterprise yet also very clearly not the exact same thing. I think it looks better in near-profile shots tho. It's also a bit more reasonable to see how it looks when you realize the relative scale, as shown in this huge rear end picture:

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 09:45

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MikeJF posted:

I like a lot of things about the study model more than the final thing, to be honest.

It looks like it's drawn its head back, possibly in the face of bad posting.

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 09:55

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Big Mean Jerk posted:

The Excelsior is the F-35 of starfleet ships; ugly, bloated, and incapable of functioning as advertised

A seditious scotsman broke it in order to cover up for his aiding and abetting the theft of a major piece of Federation property. Which he proceeded to break and destroy, I will add, while engaging in a shooting match with the Klingon empire around a dangerous protoplanet. He's lucky they saved the planet!

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 10:15

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elcapjtk posted:

What is it with all the early drafts of a lot of the Federation ships having the neck attach at/near the middle of the saucer? Those desgins just look awful.

Seems like one of those 'obvious visual ideas' which doesn't look so good. I mean it is the logical point to attach a disk at.

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 21:18

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elcapjtk posted:

Something I'd love to see are Fed ships not designed for humanoids, how would those be different from what we've already seen?

Well you saw the tholian ones!

I imagine there'd be a lot of similarity in the broad outlines of ships just because presumably they're doing the best they can within physical constraits; it's like how all ship hulls kinda look vaguely similar, how all submarines get a similar shape, etc. Trek's been kind of inconsistent about this beyond a general 'bilateral symmetry for the most part' kinda deal.

I mean if the rules are 'drive motors are in pairs and parallel to each other' and 'you want to minimize drag to the front' you can still get a shitload of different designs out of that, and they'd all have a similar underlaying logic.

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 21:57

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Cojawfee posted:

How do you build a ship for the Horta that prevents them from burrowing straight out into space?

I think the interior spaces were filled with like, pumice or some poo poo so they got their burrowing jollies on, but most of the rest of it was a standard hull, so presumably they'd notice when they hit tritanium instead of fluffy silicon dioxide.

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 22:33

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Yeah, I think it'd be easy to reconcile some of the elements of the TOS aesthetic while having touches and notes indicating that, yes, it's still the future. Maybe Spock's weird viewer thing was some kind of hyper-augmented reality that his hobgoblin brain could process, which they didn't leave flashing because it would spook the hew-mons.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2016 01:06

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Cojawfee posted:

What if it was like the end of Unification. All these Romulans getting ready to do something really important for the Empire. Then at the end, they are found out by the other side or whatever and the BoP excort casually blows up their transport and heads home.

Yeah I think this is what a lot of Romulan stuff would be like. While I would perhaps be interested in seeing an arc or something about Klingons, or Romulans, I think that an entire series from the perspective of "here are the super cool backstabbing guys, all in funky makeup, who oppose the people who include humanity and are historically at least well-meaning, and this is going to really catch fire" would probably only catch fire in the sense of the dumpster catching fire before it sinks into the swamp and becomes the site of the future Babylon 5.

What makes the Klingons and the Romulans cool is the contrast here, and we have not had the contrasting example on television for like fifteen years, if we date it from the end of Voyager. I also have the feeling that the Romulans would pall, badly, if they were put front and center for an extended period of time.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2016 21:17

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Gonz posted:

I know Walter Koenig is 80 years old, but on that History Channel show last night, he looked like a ghost.

Is he just old as gently caress or does he have an illness of some kind?

Dude's old and one of his two children suicided. They can't all be immortal Pillar men like Stewart, who I swear to God has shown no signs of aging, save increasing neck wattle, since Dune.

Armin Shimerman seems to be doing well. Didn't Nog's actor have like, a kidney disorder, which is why he was borderline-little person status?

# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 11:22

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Y'all dumb, I think they do it pretty accurately considering that holodecks seem to be an established technology. Addiction exists and I bet it's more common on Earth or whatever, but most people, shockingly enough, will have some fun with the hologames and then go do poo poo with other people or engage in other motivated experiences in reality.

We just happen to be in the population of nerds who would be way more susceptible to holodeck addiction, sort of like how novelists often have romantic tragic hero novel-writers in their novels.

# ¿ Aug 16, 2016 05:06

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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

TNG/DS9/Voyager is littered with a bunch of garbage that needs to be ripped out of the setting, though. Even at least as early as the 70s, people were figuring out that the transporter was too powerful, so what does TNG+ do? They add even more poo poo the transporter can do, and then miniaturize it so it can fit in a shuttlecraft, or a rifle (???) or a loving lapel pin. (?????????)

And then Voyager somehow got bored with that and said "add more ~~cores~~ holograms!!! "

I just don't see a lot of value in the old TNG/DS9/VOY timeline. I don't mean that as "those shows were all terrible, forget everything about them", but rather that they didn't really do a good job of building a coherent setting that enhances future Star Trek-brand stories. We don't need to reference I, Borg or In The Pale Moonlight or Year of Hell in a new series. It's okay to have more than one timeline.

You can't have the 90's back. It's done.

The thing with the transporter, I think, is that it is pretty much literally a dramatic convenience so they can have stories without having to deal with all the nitpicky bullshit of shuttling up and down and other such things, which would need to be the case if they didn't have transporters. I can also see the narrative point of not wanting your ship story to have to, by necessity, become a "carrier" story due to the need to constantly have loving shuttles and fighters or whatever zipping around. ZZZZZ BORING.

I do think the easier and smoother way to explain it is a small fixed wormhole generator or something just to stop people from whining about how the transporter murders them constantly and feeling clever. "gently caress you! It overlays two separate areas in space temporarily!" This also seems like you'd avoid all the magical transporter healing possibilities, or dumb poo poo like putting it into an elite super no-scope insta-kill JFK assassination rifle. Thomas Riker can be explained by a verteron storm. Where is my money, CBS?

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 21:40

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Baka-nin posted:

The cetacean thing was planned so they could include trained dolphins on the show, the idea was dreamed up back when the USA was going through a Whale and Dolphin craze, so its a bit like the idea to have bands playing on Enterprise. Though they did come up with a justification for this idea was that dolphins are used to moving like a ship in space so this would be important somehow. Of course the same is true of birds and bees, and bees would help out with that garden Keiko pottered around in and make delicious real honey.

I think you can still see the cetacean deck on some of the Enterprise blueprints. And in Yesterday's Enterprise Picard wants a report from them just before he goes into battle with the Klingons.

It was a reference to "Gunbuster," where they had gene-tailored psi-dolphin navigators because anime is real. I think the tech manual says they're like warp field/navigation consultants and researchers and there's like ten of them, so it's not like it was a million of 'em

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 06:47

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