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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:The police are fine once you end the loving drug war. Pretty much. Prohibition is pretty dumb across the board.
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:not sad that at least one white supremacist piggy got elite sniped what are you an edgy 12 year old?
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Cartouche posted:less bad threads in GBS Congratulations, your on my poo poo-list, Cartouche!
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Luvcow posted:what are you an edgy 12 year old? Welcome to gbs Dreddout posted:Congratulations, your on my poo poo-list, Cartouche! woah (you're)
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Cartouche posted:We could cross those all out and replace them with Yes. The politicians selling drugs are going to try to stop people from using them. Unless, by addiction assistance, you mean handing them out to school kids.
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Jul 13, 2016 19:06
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Cartouche posted:
Wouldn't that make "legal" drugs more expensive than the untaxed, unregulated brand? Wouldn't that lead to most people just continuing to buy the illegal stuff? Especially since law enforcement isn't even bothering with shutting down the illegal drug trade?
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Luvcow posted:what are you an edgy 12 year old? look buddy i know ur sad about your nordic white power pig getting pwned by a negro but maybe he's happier about being in valhalla drinking mead with the odin fuhrer
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Jul 13, 2016 19:14
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spacetoaster posted:Yes. The politicians selling drugs are going to try to stop people from using them. You'd fund addiction clinics just like Portugal does and see a drop in overall rates of drug use and a drop in addiction as well. We tax the hell out of cigs and alcohol as well, never seen a politician trying to get you to smoke more. spacetoaster posted:Wouldn't that make "legal" drugs more expensive than the untaxed, unregulated brand? Wouldn't that lead to most people just continuing to buy the illegal stuff? No. 90%+ of the cost of illegal drugs is because they are illegal. Plus with the illegal stuff you never know what it might be adulterated with - I'd gladly pay more for E that is FDA regulated and is for sure just MDMA. spacetoaster posted:Especially since law enforcement isn't even bothering with shutting down the illegal drug trade? Well they are failing but not for lack of trying (and tax money).
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Nobody in texas but astroturfing California carpetbaggers give a gently caress about guns in texas. Even right now. Hope this helps.
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Jul 13, 2016 19:19
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spacetoaster posted:Wouldn't that make "legal" drugs more expensive than the untaxed, unregulated brand? Based on what exactly? Is there a set price on the street? have you never heard of prohibition? Cartouche fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jul 13, 2016 |
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Jul 13, 2016 19:22
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Moridin920 posted:
That's a different situation. The poster I referred to said the government should handle production and sales of drugs. Not just tax them.
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Jul 13, 2016 19:24
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Cartouche posted:Based on what exactly? Is there a set price on the street? Nope. But I can't imagine the government being able to produce, sell, and regulate drugs leading to a drop in price.
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Moridin920 posted:You'd fund addiction clinics just like Portugal does and see a drop in overall rates of drug use and a drop in addiction as well. Rather glad we are seeing somewhat eye to eye on something. 
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spacetoaster posted:Nope. But I can't imagine the government being able to produce, sell, and regulate drugs leading to a drop in price. They would just need to regulate them, like any other potentially dangerous product.
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spacetoaster posted:That's a different situation. I should have said regulate, but whatever works best.
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Cartouche posted:Rather glad we are seeing somewhat eye to eye on something. You're alright I just cuss a lot for some reason when I type
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:The police are fine once you end the loving drug war. yeah but if you end the drug war then you don't need nearly as many police, and they lose a big portion of their funding poo poo if you just legalize marijuana like 90% of America's "drug problem" disappears all at once
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Dubplate Fire posted:They would just need to regulate them, like any other potentially dangerous product. I could care less about that. Bring it on. We're just going to have to deal with the reduction in police forces across the nation. Cartouche posted:- Legalize all drugs and put production and distribution into government hands But this is the statement I was responding to. I can't even trust the government not to screw up my driver's license. Why would I want them running drug factories and stores?
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:The government sells crack already they also invented aids and malt liquor and lil jon
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To be fair the state handles millions of driver's licenses just fine though. The state does a lot well, you just don't notice because things are going smoothly. Try going to Bulgaria and seeing what a real inept government is like. Not entirely sure if we should nationalize production of drugs necessarily, just saying. The free market can probably handle it just fine coupled with extensive regulation. Either one has to be better than the current situation.
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spacetoaster posted:I could care less about that. Bring it on. They regulate and distribute liquor.  Also, perhaps the overwhelming positives would outweigh the negatives?
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Jul 13, 2016 19:35
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Cartouche posted:They regulate and distribute liquor. Yeah actually that's true in a lot of places. It might actually be preferable to get government drugs from the government store rather than have them treated like another market commodity (since they are drugs, still). Probably some of the logic behind the state liquor stores as well.
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City of Tampa posted:yeah but if you end the drug war then you don't need nearly as many police, and they lose a big portion of their funding Yah thats why they'd be fine if you ended the drug war. Not every town would need a tank
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Cartouche posted:They regulate and distribute liquor. weed is way less harmful than alcohol and shouldn't be regulated or taxed any more than any other farmed plant product, like spinach do whatever you want with the other drugs
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Yah thats why they'd be fine if you ended the drug war. Not every town would need a tank agreed, but then you have to get rid of a bunch of cops and no politician is going to want to do that also very wealthy special interests like Walmart have become accustomed to police providing all of their security against shoplifters for free and they aren't gonna want to start paying for security themselves when we don't have a huge overabundance of cops anymore
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Moridin920 posted:- Going into pissed off communities looking like they do in the OP's photo helps nothing at all whatsoever and only serves to create more distrust and fear. Cops 30-40 years ago managed to handle much more violent riots and situations without donning full suit blacked out armor and riding around in surplus armored military vehicles. Yea, the riots in the old days...  Make today's riots look like recess.
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a lot of big government idiots campaigning as hard as they can for Trump itt
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Fingers crossed! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LA_riots
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Jul 13, 2016 19:45
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the solution to all this "systemic oppression" is an even bigger and more convoluted system
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reallivedinosaur posted:the solution to all this "systemic oppression" is an even bigger and more convoluted system yeah but with less armed fatasses playing Call of Duty LARP
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City of Tampa posted:agreed, but then you have to get rid of a bunch of cops and no politician is going to want to do that Why would you need to get rid of cops, and not simply re-purpose them back into walking beats like they used to do?
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City of Tampa posted:yeah but with less armed fatasses playing Call of Duty LARP uh huh sure
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all those gang bangers selling nickel bags of weed - what will they do for money in the utopian future? legitimate factory work? is snoop going to write a rap about working 9-5 and filing his taxes?
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reallivedinosaur posted:all those gang bangers selling nickel bags of weed - what will they do for money in the utopian future? sell dimebags at the weed store? start their own weed business maybe?
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reallivedinosaur posted:all those gang bangers selling nickel bags of weed - what will they do for money in the utopian future? He could do a duet with Dolly Parton.
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City of Tampa posted:sell dimebags at the weed store? start their own weed business maybe? lol
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City of Tampa posted:agreed, but then you have to get rid of a bunch of cops and no politician is going to want to do that I dunno billions of dollars to tax might change their tune
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what makes you think they will start a legitimate weed business later? why cant they start legitimate businesses now?
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Cartouche posted:Why would you need to get rid of cops, and not simply re-purpose them back into walking beats like they used to do? because if cops aren't able to generate money from the DEA by busting potheads or by confiscating cars and poo poo they will start taking in waaaay less money, and that has to be replaced with increased taxes or by cutting jobs of cops
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