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Does anyone use LTFS? Being able to back up to tapes without dropping $1.5k for software sounds pretty nice. But it doesn't look like it supports libraries? If you haven't used LTFS please talk about tapes in general. 
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backup to disk like a non-crazy person
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Jul 11, 2016 23:59
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:backup to disk like a non-crazy person b-b-but i need archives that last on the shelf for 20 years
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Jul 12, 2016 00:04
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i use tape archive files but never put them on tape op
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:backup to disk like a non-crazy person hundreds of tb to offsite
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Jul 12, 2016 01:17
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akadajet posted:i use tape archive files but never put them on tape op oooh look at this dude thinking he special
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Jul 12, 2016 02:16
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I have an S-100 card that backs up dozens or hundreds of megabytes to a VHS tape with up to 16x block redundancy
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Jul 12, 2016 02:23
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bands are selling cassettes again. technology is cyclical.
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Jul 12, 2016 04:59
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Raere posted:Does anyone use LTFS? Being able to back up to tapes without dropping $1.5k for software sounds pretty nice. But it doesn't look like it supports libraries? IT'S BACKUP
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Raere posted:hundreds of tb to offsite yeah we do that in appassure with hourly snapshots, replication, and a 65% dedupe/compress rate. beats the poo poo out of tape and you only have to take a single full backup the first time you add something. tape is poo poo and it will rot on the shelf and you never know if its good when you need it. a disk array is doing constant verification of the data
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Jul 12, 2016 05:25
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that tape would make a p. good vaporwave cover art
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Jul 12, 2016 05:33
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yeah op, i got a long term fapping solution. its ur mom. haha
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Jul 12, 2016 05:37
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Dongslayer. posted:bands are selling cassettes again. technology is cyclical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wwaj4HvhyU vinyl is old and busted, cassettes are the new hotness meanwhile, everyone who is old enough to have HAD to use cassettes is like "thats nice dear"
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:yeah we do that in appassure with hourly snapshots, replication, and a 65% dedupe/compress rate. beats the poo poo out of tape and you only have to take a single full backup the first time you add something. tape is poo poo and it will rot on the shelf and you never know if its good when you need it. a disk array is doing constant verification of the data Your company is going to regret only doing disk backups when you go crazy and are able to purge all their data and backups in hours. (or you get some really evil hacker inside your network, although the first scenario is more likely) Tape is good as a last ditch data insurance, since you usually have dozens of redundant copies and they are vaulted offsite in a mountain somewhere and someone has to physically degauss each one or overwrite them which takes hours per tape.
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Jul 12, 2016 20:18
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error1 posted:Your company is going to regret only doing disk backups when you go crazy and are able to purge all their data and backups in hours. (or you get some really evil hacker inside your network, although the first scenario is more likely) the hell kind of data are ppl storing holy gently caress
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Jul 12, 2016 20:31
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mulder and scully, after days of tribulation and follwiing clues finally sneak into the secret vault deep in the adirondacks. after keying in the secret code and dropping a dollop of the smoking man's blood on the authorizaion panel, the door creeks open. Look at this, scully, mulder furtively murmurs as he slides open a filing drawer "these look like computer backup tapes" scully unfolds the portatable briefcase computer and with a whizz and a bleep the machine flickers to live. she inserts the tape carefully. fox strokes his chin and has a flashback of when his sister was kidnapped, scully adjusts her glasses under the green glow of the blinking terminal. after a tense moment, data starts flying across the 250x250 terminal monitor. "fox... this is incredible. it's a record of every Facebook Like our brand and sister companies received in 2014. what on earth could They be doing with this data? what if it got into the wrong hands?" a thud is heard down the hall. "we;ve got to the get out of here scully. the archivist is coming!"
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someone repost the OPM backup archive plan from the other thread tia
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Jul 12, 2016 20:41
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found itBhodi posted:the second best way is to do what OPM does - weekly full backups of every system onto tape and then put into a numbered box which gets shipped offsite into a literal salt mine (the same one iron mountain stores their poo poo in). No index, no reference information other than a single ID of the box and the date it was shipped offsite. Even the server names themselves are stored on an index tape within the box.
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Jul 12, 2016 20:47
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it's me, I'm the guy who underestimated the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway, ask me anything
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Jul 12, 2016 20:54
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error1 posted:Your company is going to regret only doing disk backups when you go crazy and are able to purge all their data and backups in hours. (or you get some really evil hacker inside your network, although the first scenario is more likely) there's something innately comforting about the idea of doing WORM LTO backups your data will only be destroyed by entropy, but not by the hand of man
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Jul 12, 2016 20:57
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qntm posted:it's me, I'm the guy who underestimated the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway, ask me anything how did u find yourself in this situation
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Jul 12, 2016 21:03
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error1 posted:Your company is going to regret only doing disk backups when you go crazy and are able to purge all their data and backups in hours. (or you get some really evil hacker inside your network, although the first scenario is more likely) there's a monthly dump to S3 in addition to the two live replication sites so, no.
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Jul 12, 2016 21:08
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Is it set up with retention policies on AWS or can you delete all the buckets and close the account when you decide you hate your boss? I guess if the guy handling the AWS stuff isn't the same guy that handles everything else backup-related it should be OK
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Jul 12, 2016 21:22
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amazon retains snapshots on the bucket (or so they claim) outside our control so there would have to be some spectacular levels of spite and social engineering to completely gently caress everything, on about the same level of risk as someone going to a remote tape site and torching them
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Jul 12, 2016 21:26
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error1 posted:Is it set up with retention policies on AWS or can you delete all the buckets and close the account when you decide you hate your boss? yeah, you can't expect those two people to conspire together or anything no seriously they're it they don't have the necessary social skills for that
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Jul 12, 2016 21:30
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i just use crashplan op
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Jul 12, 2016 21:31
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qntm posted:it's me, I'm the guy who underestimated the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway, ask me anything What car has the fastest bandwidth? Like is it a bugatti veyron with the passenger seat full of tapes or maybe just a plain old van because of the much bigger capacity?
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:What car has the fastest bandwidth? Like is it a bugatti veyron with the passenger seat full of tapes or maybe just a plain old van because of the much bigger capacity? its a harrier jet op
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all my bits are delivered by jet so the ping times are terrible but the amount of them is awesome
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I'll be IP over pigeon I guess
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Agile Vector posted:its a harrier jet op That's not a car!!!
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:What car has the fastest bandwidth? Like is it a bugatti veyron with the passenger seat full of tapes or maybe just a plain old van because of the much bigger capacity? probably whatever you can cram the most microSD cards in
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mishaq posted:b-b-but i need archives that last on the shelf for 20 years then don't use tapes
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Smythe posted:mulder and scully, after days of tribulation and follwiing clues finally sneak into the secret vault deep in the adirondacks. after keying in the secret code and dropping a dollop of the smoking man's blood on the authorizaion panel, the door creeks open. Look at this, scully, mulder furtively murmurs as he slides open a filing drawer "these look like computer backup tapes" scully unfolds the portatable briefcase computer and with a whizz and a bleep the machine flickers to live. she inserts the tape carefully. fox strokes his chin and has a flashback of when his sister was kidnapped, scully adjusts her glasses under the green glow of the blinking terminal. after a tense moment, data starts flying across the 250x250 terminal monitor. "fox... this is incredible. it's a record of every Facebook Like our brand and sister companies received in 2014. what on earth could They be doing with this data? what if it got into the wrong hands?" a thud is heard down the hall. "we;ve got to the get out of here scully. the archivist is coming!"
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Love Too loving poo poo
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:What car has the fastest bandwidth? Like is it a bugatti veyron with the passenger seat full of tapes or maybe just a plain old van because of the much bigger capacity? I know this is rhetorical but a veyron is only 3 or 4 times faster than a regular car a transport truck has like 500 times the capacity of a veyron
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:What car has the fastest bandwidth? Like is it a bugatti veyron with the passenger seat full of tapes or maybe just a plain old van because of the much bigger capacity? i'm thinkin' a buick roadmaster wagon. it's got a load of capacity but it's also got the big LT1 engine and is somewhat more aerodynamic than a loving custom van, so you might get it up to 160
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Jul 13, 2016 01:46
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The answer, like everything else, is a tractor-trailer
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infrastructure has no network connectivity. how do you do offsite backups without internet? how much is backup exec?
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Captain Foo posted:The answer, like everything else, is a train
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