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Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora

Welcome to a thread about the most electrifying personality in video games. I'm sorry, that's terrible.


It's been some time since people with superhuman powers became public knowledge in Empire City. Cole McGrath, bike-courier-turned-super-person, fought to protect his city from people that would use their amazing abilities to take over, but he was given a vision of a sequel hook. This is that sequel. In the flood-damaged city of New Marais, Cole needs to find a way to defeat the Beast, a giant monster that blew up Empire City and is rampaging its way south. With the help of his old pal Zeke Dunbar and NSA Agent Lucy Kuo, Cole races to improve his powers while dealing with the Militia, human supremacists that don't take kindly to you Yankees, with your lightning hands and your non-pornographic cinemas.

inFamous 2 is an open-world third-person shooter at its core, with climbing and movement reminiscent of the Assassin's Creed series. The thing that set the inFamous series apart from other open-world games at the time was the very comic-booky Karma system that gave you new abilities based on if you were being a sassy boy scout or just a dumpster fire or a human being. Thankfully, the game seems to know exactly what it is so the "moral choices" are very cut and dry, and there is never any ambiguity over whether you're being a good boy or a rude boy, nor any incentive to take a balanced approach. You're rewarded for your behavior either way, and neither good nor evil is proven to be the optimal choice due to rewards. Some missions play out differently depending on Cole's karma, and there are mutually exclusive good and evil missions to mix things up a little.


I'm Lynx Winters and I'm joined by my friend bxfenns who has never really seen this series. Thankfully, the game stands pretty well on its own and there's not a lot of required knowledge from the first game. Like I mentioned, some parts of game and story play out differently in places based on your karma, but most of the story and side missions work the same for both sides. That means that instead of putting up separate videos for good and evil, I'll mostly play the game as a good boy but I'll also show off all the differences for being evil. No morality-based content will be cut.

Since the game does a decent enough job of explaining events from the first game, I'll go ahead and say that plot discussion of the first game isn't spoilers unless you're talking about it in context to things that haven't happened yet in this game. If you know what's going on, who certain people are, etc, don't be a dick. If you want to know more details about the first game, there's two LPs on lparchive.org you could watch, but again, it's not really mandatory. I've never played the first game, and didn't watch Haller's LP until after I'd beat this one twice, and I never really felt lost.

I also haven't played Second Son but I'd really like to play it, so inFamous: Second Son discussion should be spoilered, but also maybe just don't bring it up too often? Same applies to Festival of Blood, the standalone DLC for this game, but also shut up a little about that one because I actually will play that for this thread.


(turn on youtube subtitles because news broadcasts don't have them in-game and we are chatty boys)
Episode #1: A Fresh Start
Episode #2: Power Nap
Episode #3: Birds
Episode #4: Chores
Episode #5: A Very Busy Day
Episode #6: Just A Prank
Episode #7: Pedestrian Feng Shui
Episode #8: Plantation
Episode #9: Transformers
Episode #10: Makeover
Episode #11: Swamp Secrets
Episode #12: Plans

Spookums Month Special: Festival of Blood
Episode #1: Sparkly Vampire (But Different)
Episode #2: Holy Terror
Episode #3: Ignatius
Episode #4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e6eNa2hA3k

Lynx Winters fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Nov 1, 2016

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NeruVolpi
Apr 23, 2016
I like this game very much and am excited to see some more!

On infamous 1 I tried to play as good. Then replay as bad. But could not gather the willpower for the second playthrough.

Playing both sides. 1 chapter at a time. Was actually a better choice.
Something like G B B G.
Game keeps being fresh and enjoyable.

MGN001
May 12, 2012

I played a bunch of the original inFamous, but never finished it. I also played a chunk of Second Son, but never got around to this one. I'm amped up for this LP.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora

NeruVolpi posted:

I like this game very much and am excited to see some more!

On infamous 1 I tried to play as good. Then replay as bad. But could not gather the willpower for the second playthrough.

Playing both sides. 1 chapter at a time. Was actually a better choice.
Something like G B B G.
Game keeps being fresh and enjoyable.

That's basically how I'm doing things when I record, but the first time I played this I just ran through it twice in a row, back to back.

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014
Infamous 2 remains the crowning example of a game improving its writing from game 1 to game 2. Zeke especially, I have never seen a character anywhere go from so loathsome to so loveable.

Shame the basic blast is less satisfying than in the first game, but that is pretty much my only complaint aside from the overabundance of late-game enemies.

Fenns
Mar 18, 2015

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I'm just happy to be watching and talking over a game where things actually happen.

But yeah this game seems super neat and kinda makes me want to go play Prototype a bit.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora

ManlyGrunting posted:

Infamous 2 remains the crowning example of a game improving its writing from game 1 to game 2. Zeke especially, I have never seen a character anywhere go from so loathsome to so loveable.

Let's put that to test right now! Episode 2 is up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpHchlojmNY

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
The inFamous series is great. I'm a dork, so I always start with the good side and all 3 games managed to tell an interesting modern superhero story to me. That was the big appeal for me. All of my favorite superheroes were created in either the 40's or the 60's. So even though they have timeless elements, it's not always easy to relate to them. I can't say I relate to Cole per se, but I like that it's comic book without...I dunno, a Colemobile. I strongly recommend the original, this game, and Second Son.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
Yeah, I am a fan of how the games contrast with mainstream superhero stuff. A big thing to me is that nobody really gets a secret identity. Cole never calls himself The Electrician or anything, and the news doesn't make up a name for him. No matter what you decide to do as the player, everyone in the game knows that it was Cole that did it. The writing in this game definitely has its sense of humor, but everything stays pretty grounded in terms of tone.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
Cole McGrath is a gentle friend to animals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Ei8kRhN0E

Fenns
Mar 18, 2015

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As someone who loves birds, I can safely say I hate this episode. Don't ever tell my bird I helped commentate this.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
Today's episode has significantly fewer birds taking naps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eY7htGipRs

Tuxedo Ted
Apr 24, 2007

I always feel like the arcing lightning between all those points in the HUD are going to eventually spell out something.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
Who's ready to meet our major antagonist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RFFDMhaFK4

Also, I have a question for the thread: would people prefer the bird audio logs to be mixed in with the episodes like they have been, or put at the end of the video so people who don't care can skip them? Either way I'm collecting all of them but we've sort of just been talking over them and the key points that bridge the plot from the first game to this one have already been covered.

Lynx Winters fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Aug 10, 2016

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
haha whoops

Tuxedo Ted
Apr 24, 2007

If that guy is the protagonist, I can't wait to meet the badguy.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
Good catch. I thought about leaving it since Bertrand does see himself as the hero of New Marais, sort of.

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014

Lynx Winters posted:

Good catch. I thought about leaving it since Bertrand does see himself as the hero of New Marais, sort of.

drat straight, he's gonna clean up the city from that menace Spiderman The Demon of Empire City.

e: also to say something, I love the soundtrack in both the first two games (haven;t checked out SS yet, only just got it). The first one had a habit of using trash as percusion and using traditional instruments unusually (like hitting piano wires with a hammer), and the second one has a love for the minor key that really adds to it.

Also the trick to the helecopter is to throw a car at it, it usually does the job.

ManlyGrunting fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Aug 12, 2016

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora

ManlyGrunting posted:

drat straight, he's gonna clean up the city from that menace Spiderman The Demon of Empire City.

e: also to say something, I love the soundtrack in both the first two games (haven;t checked out SS yet, only just got it). The first one had a habit of using trash as percusion and using traditional instruments unusually (like hitting piano wires with a hammer), and the second one has a love for the minor key that really adds to it.

Also the trick to the helecopter is to throw a car at it, it usually does the job.

The soundtrack for this game is very cool, they hired a New Orleans band to work with their composer to create a very fitting score for the action and the setting. And don't you worry about the choppers, they'll get what's coming to them soon.

Anyway! Here's a new episode with a new Conduit buddy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DWvjdeeq9o

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
I already really liked inFamous, but I fell in love with inFamous 2 right at that mission where you get exp just for having good karma. That was really nice. Like a pat on the back for being a good guy even back in the previous save file.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
I'm giving this to you a day early, because I love you. Please enjoy Cole's new power where he summons intense weather (but maybe not the weather you'd think of first).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N91e4PFpMQ

SonicRulez posted:

I already really liked inFamous, but I fell in love with inFamous 2 right at that mission where you get exp just for having good karma. That was really nice. Like a pat on the back for being a good guy even back in the previous save file.

The morality system of inFamous 2 is definitely as binary as something like a Bioware game, but I also like the little touches like "being a good boy earns a smooch from a nice lady" or the fact that some neutral missions have good/evil outcomes that depend on what you actual do instead of picking from a menu.

GoneRampant
Aug 19, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I still feel that Infamous 2 is the best game in the series in a lot of ways, chief among which being that it's got a great sandbox to play in, and it's probably got the best morality system out of any of the games.

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014
Yeah, I just got to playing Second Son and while it is a drat good game (I would rank it above the first Infamous and if we get a sequel of the caliber of 2 it would be my GotY) it is lacking a lot, mostly in enemy variety. 2 Has three whole factions and they all feel very different, unlike the "but with more health" variants of the first game.

2 does have a huge weakness compared to Second Son that we've just seen the first bit of though: high level enemies loving suck and they use way too many of them in the last bit of the game.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
Evil Cole needed to get outside and work out some of that pent-up energy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTPmDAWDMe4

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
The ice dudes are an awesome faction. The sneak peek we got in the last video was

only the tip of the iceberg.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora

SonicRulez posted:

The ice dudes are an awesome faction. The sneak peek we got in the last video was

only the tip of the iceberg.

Bless this post.

No ice dudes in this episode, but I will make up for it hot new real estate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkvIP4nH9BU

Cryohazard
Feb 5, 2010
Konami are attaching the intel to pigeons?

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
The next update will be tomorrow instead of today, sorry! The new semester started hot and heavy and in trying to get ahead on assignments I ended up falling behind in editing.

But hey, how do people like the new bird format?

Oblivion4568238
Oct 10, 2012

The Inquisition.
What a show.
The Inquisition.
Here. We. Go.
College Slice
It works well enough, but I'm really missing your co-commentator's anguish over the bird murders knockouts. Maybe leave the bird strikes in the main part, and have only the audio log itself at the end, for maximum torment? (I'm joking)

(Mostly)

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
I've been sitting on this episode for like a month and it's been very difficult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_qfT6HGthQ

Oblivion4568238 posted:

It works well enough, but I'm really missing your co-commentator's anguish over the bird murders knockouts. Maybe leave the bird strikes in the main part, and have only the audio log itself at the end, for maximum torment? (I'm joking)

(Mostly)

So when recording the birds for the previous episode, I spent about five minutes trying to stick a grenade to a bird. It doesn't seem to work. The main reason I'm putting the birds at the end for now is that we were just yammering over them and not really paying attention like with the actual cutscenes, so it's not like our commentary over them was actually in reaction to anything said in a log. Also, none of them really matter to knowing what's going on. This way the viewers that want some extra plot can get it without distraction, and people who don't care can skip it. Also, it makes editing a little easier since it's less stuff to weave into the timeline.

News broadcasts probably won't get a new format, though, since they just happen at random in the wild and barely matter. I've actually missed a couple so far, and going back to re-record them would be such a monumental pain in the rear end for a tiny bit of world-building.

Oblivion4568238
Oct 10, 2012

The Inquisition.
What a show.
The Inquisition.
Here. We. Go.
College Slice

Lynx Winters posted:

So when recording the birds for the previous episode, I spent about five minutes trying to stick a grenade to a bird. It doesn't seem to work. The main reason I'm putting the birds at the end for now is that we were just yammering over them and not really paying attention like with the actual cutscenes, so it's not like our commentary over them was actually in reaction to anything said in a log. Also, none of them really matter to knowing what's going on. This way the viewers that want some extra plot can get it without distraction, and people who don't care can skip it. Also, it makes editing a little easier since it's less stuff to weave into the timeline.

Oh, I get why you're doing it the way you are now, and I agree that it's a good way to do it. I just want to hear bxfenns go "Those poor birds! :ohdear:" some more. Especially with that direct Magnum Bolt hit that opened this episode's bird hunt, it probably would have made some great conversation.

CzarChasm
Mar 14, 2009

I don't like it when you're watching me eat.
So it looks like the camera zoomed in on Cole's Backpack and there's a Sly Cooper logo on the left?

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
Yeah, good eye. It's pretty faded but it's there.

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



That sidequest sequence was pure art.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
So now that the forums are back, let's hang out with Nix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwCzICxhNXs

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
The game does a good job of establishing Bertrand as a man that you cannot reason with. I mean it's a video game and you're slinging lightning, so there was never a chance of diplomacy, but I like when games make the effort to justify it. You get the sense already that this is a man that deserves what's coming to him. That boat mission is frustrating as all hell on higher difficulties.

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



For some reason it took this latest entry for me to really appreciate the craftsmanship that went into the game. The setting is just so well-conveyed. I was really taken with the music and environment in the swamp section.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Been really enjoying watching this. inFamous2 was the one i missed.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
While I get things ready for Spookums Month, how about we also prepare to raid a historical site full of assholes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1a4HVqt5Fg

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SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
I absolutely died laughing at that ending bit. I was talking to a friend about inFamous just the other day and I came to a funny realization. I've never actually bought any of the games in the series. I got the original when the PSN was completely screwed and Sony gave it away for free. Picked up this game on Plus for free. Bought a used PS4 and the deal was that I got one game free, so I chose Second Son. A game series that I totally love and yet the closest I've come to spending money on it is when I bought this game's DLC.

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