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Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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It's a good critique but I think Chapo's a lot less glib. There's catharsis in stuff like the terrible readings, but when they talk about how the people who planned and sold the iraq war will never be punished for their crimes, it doesn't leave you feeling fulfilled.

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Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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red19fire posted:

I'm afraid to ask, but I'll bite: what's a tankie?

Stalinist or really dumb pure, explicit commie. Generally focused on America to the point of supporting other countries war crimes. They're either doing nothing or selling obscure socialist newspapers. They love to be the loudest and most visible part of a protest but only care about self-promotion.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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GalacticAcid posted:

Has the House had a black guest yet?

Have they had Carl Beijer yet? He's great and a Grey Wolf.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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They knew exactly why she was trying to wedge republicans on racism, they just cruticised the absurdity of it targeted at bush and coming from a Clinton, and discussed it as an attempt to push the democrats rightward by taking on 'moderate' republicans like Paul Ryan and Kissinger and keeping progressive votes captive. There's also way more to feminism than empty representation with no structural reform or policy, and there's lots of room for criticism of Hillary from that perspective.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Pretty much, you can find trolls of any stripe but there was never an amount of those for Bernie that was worth writing piles of articles about, and it was used to gloss over a lot of left-wing criticism and ignored POC supporting him. It was especially surreal when you had people like Peter Daou, who bragged about their time in a fascist militia or white dudes telling muslim women to stop being Bros.
Mostly it was that mspaint comic of people yelling at hitler. I guess reddit got weird about it but who cares. Maybe Chapo counts to other people, I dunno.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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If the liberals are defending the Iraq war, Saudi Arabia or sweatshops they aren't worth sympathy.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Troy Queef posted:

So did anybody go, and if so how was it?

(I couldn't, partially because I live a few thousand miles away and partially because they wouldn't let me in, as I'm a Fenian bastard.)

Apparently it didn't go too well.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Guy Mann posted:


Then when GBS got shut down QCS was full of people who sincerely believed that the mods were Hillary staffers and they had closed it to silence dissent against her online, and then I realized of course there are people who believe that.

Strangely enough, the guy who was in charge of deleting Hillary's emails was a goon. I think he mostly posted about weed though.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Kunster posted:

Why are folks pitting those against eachother?

The Mcelroys are friends with Lin and he's a fan of their stuff, even guested on a few episodes. Honestly he seems like an alright dude even though hamilton is really stupid.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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SunAndSpring posted:

Is Chapo still shilling for Jill Stein or have they realized she's terrible yet

They've always been pretty critical though it doesn't come up often.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Oh poo poo Alex Jones is going to run after Trump, I can feel it in my soul.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Has anyone else had problems downloading patreon stuff onto their phones? I keep getting an error saying SSL Handshake Exception- Java.security.cert.CertpathValidatorException: Trust Anchor for certification path not found. I'm using Podcast Addict but probably not for much longer.

E: Just switched to podkicker, aside from blinking ads for viruses and uber it's fixed

Wrestlepig fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Oct 30, 2016

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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The Narrator posted:

Also using Podcast Addict (on Android), but not having any trouble with the Grey Wolf Feed. I'm sorry to have such a basic question, but have you tried unsubscribing in the app and re-entering the patreon feed details?

I just switched to a different app that it worked on (Podkicker). I think there's a version issue where you need to change the url to have your username and password on anything before 3.8, but I couldn't get that to work anyway so eh.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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What the gently caress are you talking about?

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Yeah, it gives you access to the rss feed with all the premium episodes, so you can download from there.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Dr. Killjoy posted:

I just discovered the gospel trio that is chapo trap house. I'm going to patreon subsribe next month so it'll be worth it so what are some good non-premium episodes I can listen to in the meantime for the next two days?

The Ross Douthat saga, in episodes 3 and 30 are great readings from a conservative pundit's embarrassing biography.

38 is a great piece of reporting about Nike's industrial processes if you're looking for them on something more feminist-inclined, and also has them mocking pundits for getting stuck in elevators constantly.

I really enjoyed episode 42, which is about theranos and the SF tech scene. There's also the loving incredible Killer App trailer.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Mr. Lobe posted:

jesus christ the felix solo episode is freaking breaking my heart, he's so sincere

Felix is the last person I'd have expected to discuss homoerotic subtext in Les Mis but I'm absolutely captivated.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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What the gently caress? PPG is a legend, and I know kahina's a nut but she couldn't have a problem with a guy fighting for kurdish independence, right?

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Just remembered that at the first protest I ever went to, I met a newspaper-seller who praised Stalin for legalising incest.

Edit: Disagree with Adam Curtis's argument that the decline of the left was caused by their strategies and culture, rather than the Reagan/Thatcher attacks on established power structures leading towards only cultural remnants.

Wrestlepig fucked around with this message at 07:53 on Dec 12, 2016

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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uber_stoat posted:

the only time I can make myself interested in elevators is when someone is brutally killed by one. can anyone top the "waterfall of blood" elevator death?

The final destination 2 scene was pretty good. I think it had a basket of hook hands.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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He left because the jedi were volcel and he wanted to gently caress.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Hillary's loss is more of a massive strategic failure than a total rejection of liberalism. She wasn't a good candidate but she could have easily won by not pissing money away and doing a normal ground-game.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Why is felix comparing stuff to casino royale so much recently?

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Phobophilia posted:

http://m.imgur.com/bvFGEKP?r

hey dont mind me im just gonna browse through a torrent of scat porn until I find an actor that vaguely resembles someone why may have punched out a nazi

https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/823325289946161152

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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PissPigGrandad is my hero

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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It's wierd for people to be careerists in a massively failing organisation.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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gently caress joe rogan for turning guys in my jiujitsu class to pseudo-hippie/jocks who are really into sensory deprivation tanks.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Obstacle2 posted:

Its just a funny phrase another twitter guy, @wutanggoku, came up with.

the genius behind Fucka Sucka Ding Dong

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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New ep up featuring Tim Heidecker.

Wrestlepig
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The Crotch posted:

I've never listened to Scumbag. Why should/shouldn't I?

There's one great episode where they talk about some youtube nutters like demoniusx and dan quinn but most of the show is retreading internet drama and being unsympathetic to people with depression. I know those are pillars of this site but I'd give it a miss.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Ron Jeremy posted:

I'm like 65% convinced 4chan is seeded by Russian and or israeli intelligence. Yes, I've dusted off my tinfoil.

If it was israel they wouldn't hate jews so much.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Something something cia op.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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padijun posted:

here's what I'm still having problems squaring as a junior leftist who got "woke" when I first saw the bernie poo poo on reddit and GBS like a year ago

-no personal property: there was this huge capitalist lie I just accepted my whole life that all property "you have too much of" just gets seized by the state. I know that's hyperbole, they're not going to grab your photo albums. what in the modern era do I get to keep? and if stuff like sharing soap or blankets is required, how do you prevent "that guy" who's always wasting soap or stealing blankets?

I wouldn't worry about this to be honest. Unless poo poo gets really loving nuts with a full-on armed revolution or massive resource crisis it's not going to come up. If there's a change of systems (and there probably won't be) it's going to be slow, and since most commies are 22 year old uni students they won't want to blow their support base by taking away the big tvs.

I don't think you'd even have to do much taking, since there's so much poo poo everywhere at this moment. There's more empty houses than homeless people in most major cities, and we make a lot of poo poo. The Elites taking away your stuff is also true of capitalism, it's just this time it's the Landlord getting rent, your boss exploiting you for profit and all the other ways people take money from you.

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-mao's greatest hits are the cultural revolution, the great leap forward, and the four pests campaign, all of which left millions dead? am I supposed to buy into this guy's ideas? if not, who do I turn to?

If you ever see anyone praise Mao in your day to day life, jump out of the window. I really wouldn't get too heavy into theory, it's mostly philosophers who want to diagnose capitalism rather than talk about what to do, and there's probably not going to be a point in the forseeable future where the difference between splits of commies will matter. Just doing politics will teach you the important stuff.

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e: actually the biggest one, I'm all in with this socialism thing, but when I see people advocating for communism, that old chestnut of "~but communism has never actually worked IRL~" runs through my head

The important question is why they didn't work. Is it inherent problems with marxist ideology, or is it stuff like the grind of the cold war, assassinations of important figures and coups, incredibly stupid leaders in an overly centralized structure, or whatever. I don't want to apologise for the Purges or the Great Leap Forward but they aren't something inevitable under socialism. There's so many loving isms around but we've only seen 1 approach fail, so try not to lump everything under that umbrella. It's not like capitalism is working so great anyway.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Jonas Albrecht posted:

How does Molly Klein even have a following?

Commies are dumb sometimes I guess. If you agree with the psyops poo poo and don't really want to actually do things she looks fine on the surface level.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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I was hoping for someone to make the point about commodification, it's a really important thing to get pointed out.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Sushi in Yiddish posted:

What's iron pill?



vvv ah... vvv

literal nazis but with an mspaint comic describing it.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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Must be really old internet because I don't associate misanthropic teens with combining the Iliad with the Ultimate Hustler, or disses involving the valles marineris.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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AndrewP posted:

I haven't really kept up but some of their earlier episodes are amazing. Hugh Glass in particular is great. I'll check this one out.

At least check out the Jet Pack Madness episode, it's not what you'd expect.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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https://twitter.com/immolations/status/842154205343293441

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Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

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These unheard clips are great, I don't know why they weren't in the original eps.

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