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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

At a party last night we were spitballing a hypothetical movie we wished would get made and a drunk girl blurted out "Melissa McCarthy should be in it!" apropos of nothing so obviously the Ghostbusters remake is leaving its mark on culture

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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Remakes can be good if the original is far enough from the public consciousness that you're (a) not constantly being compared to it and (b) not obviously cashing in on nostalgia, and if the remake is good enough to stand on its own

If either of those conditions does not apply the remake will probably be bad

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Basically if your remake is a movie, rather than a sign that says "hahaha look it's that thing you like, do you still like it, give us some more money because we made more of that thing you like, please, thank you" it can be good

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Remember when all the cashins used to be sequels

Well what if -- *leans forward at conference room table conspiratorially* What if I told you you could make a sequel without having to deal with the plot issues of discrete chapters within a larger narrative that make sense both individually and as a whole? What if you didn't have to write a new plot at all? *clicks forward in PowerPoint presentation*

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

JoshVanValkenburg posted:

They are not remaking Buckaroo Banzai

But I am, in my head and my heart every time I load up the VHS

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

notZaar posted:

The plans for what?

In the final scene of Rogue One a young Bothan spy pushes PLAY on a holograph projector and in midair appear the words "STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE, Scene 1: Leia Organa's blockade-runner hurtles through space, pursued by an Imperial Star Destroyer..."

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I'm theoretically ok with a Gremlins reboot, because I have never seen Gremlins and so a new Gremlins movie would basically just be a new movie to me :)

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Nanomashoes posted:

It's interesting to me that the director of the new Ghostbusters is a big fan of :biotruths:.

I'm p much over talking about this movie but wow is this guy ever a tool

I especially like how he says men like lowbrow humor while putting out a really slapsticky physical-comedy-y movie "for women", although come to think of it maybe that part was supposed to be self-deprecating and that just wasn't clear because he's pretentious as hell

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

Remake The Big Lebowski with Seth Rogan as the Dude

We fully cast a genderswapped Lebowski in the last thread as a joke and now I'm really invested in it

it's the only potential Lebowski reboot I'm into at all

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I think a Seth Rogen stoner Ghostbusters movie could possibly be good if it were at least self-aware, but I am a huge Rogen apologist in general

I also think this same movie again could also be good if it distanced itself as far as possible from Feig, got a better writer, and tried to be a movie instead of a social statement

Like, they should pull a Hulk and reboot it again with a similar premise to last time without the toxic people attached to it, and they could even keep the same cast because they weren't the problem

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

PassTheRemote posted:

I will need to catch Danger 5. Question, though, why did that eagle steal Number 6's look from The Prisoner?

Season 1 of Danger 5 is a spoof of 60s spy shows, like for example The Prisoner, so it's very intentional

I liked Season 1's 60s spoofs more than Season 2's 80s spoofs, in part because the characters were less depressing in it and in part because 80s spoofs are kind of played out

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I really want to believe WB can start making good DC movies again the second it wises the gently caress up and decides to fire Zack Snyder

Much like GB2016 could possibly have been good if it weren't for Paul Feig being both a hack and insufferable

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

what was the last good movie Sony Pictures has made, their Wikipedia page doesn't have a list and I'm curious

CharlestonJew posted:

ghostbusters fighting Ghost Aliens sounds like a more interesting idea than what we got

it would have been worth it just to see Dan Aykroyd have a massive boner 24/7

I mean, on the one hand the ghost-aliens plot didn't work so great in Indiana Jones 4, but on the other hand 80s reboots all inexplicably having the ghost-alien plot thread in common would be a fun detail

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

mind the walrus posted:

I think the Shallows was a really good RoI considering how no one ever expects a dumb shark movie to be good and rate well with audiences. Other than that their last 2 years have looked like middling and mediocre box office successes, save maybe Spectre. I have to go all the way back to 22 Jump Street before I find a movie I would say is good without any reservations, and before that Django Unchained.

Other than that it's a dire loving list including Pixels, Aloha, Paul Blart 2, the Angry Birds movie, Money Monster, the Brothers Grimsby, Chappie, Sex Tape, Think Like a Man Too, Amazing Spider-Man 2, The Monuments Men, American Hustle, Robocop, the Smurfs 2, Grown-ups 2 and After Earth. I mean yeah there's also This is the End, Fury, Captain Phillips, Evil Dead, White House Down, The Night Before, The Walk, the Equalizer, the Interview, and Concussion, but those are all the definition of "also-ran" save Captain Phillips.

I actually quite liked American Hustle because I am a blatant 70s fetishist, and I'd give This Is The End a solid 7/10, but yeah the rest of those are pretty terrible AFAIK (I haven't seen Captain Phillips but it is Supposed To Be Good)

Even with those, the Jump Streets, and Django we're looking at a pretty miserable batting average

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ghostbusters-heading-70m-loss-sequel-918515

jeez guys I had no idea this movie was losing this much money

I actually thought it was breaking even, $70M is ridiculous. Hell, I've never even lost ONE million on a business venture.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

also wasn't an all-female Ocean's Eleven a joke idea from the last thread or something because I guess it's a real thing now

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Yeah Sony is really trying new things w/r/t Internet-age marketing, they tried exploiting international relations for The Interview and they tried carefully tending and curating an outrage garden for GB2016, and honestly both marketing campaigns worked really well, they just forgot to make the movies actually worth seeing

I'm gonna be honest, for all this movie's guerrilla marketing pissed me off, if it turned out good, I'd have seen it

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Internaut! posted:

those campaigns generated a lot of buzz that translated into big losses, so I'm not sure they could be considered to have "worked really well"

The buzz is all you need from a marketing campaign. The big losses came from the movies themselves sucking. Marketing did their job just fine. :colbert:

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I dunno who Awkwafina is but she is not an actress, and neither is Rihanna. And I'm gonna be honest here guys I have absolutely no idea what Mindy Kaling could contribute to a heist. Is she gonna be the hacker or what? I guess she's kind of similar to Eddie Jemison.

also, point of order, why could they not just call it "ocean's eight"

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Troy Queef posted:

Rihanna sucked when she was a voice actress, Mindy Kaling is a hack who is literally writing a wish-fulfillment show for herself, HBC's been stuck in too many Tim Burton productions for me to remember if she was ever good at all, and what the gently caress is an Awkwafina?

(It also has Anne Hathaway and Cate Blanchett in it, so it least it won't be total rubbish.)

Helena Bonham Carter was pretty good in Fight Club and The King's Speech and also I had a crush on her when I was 17

and I've half-paid attention to a couple Mindy Project episodes (my fiancee watches it on Hulu sometimes) and she at least made her self-insert into a neurotic bumbling klutz a la Tina Fey's self-insert in 30 Rock, but other than that yeah it's kind of wish-fulfillmenty

But let's be honest, the original O11 worked despite also having some no-names and some hacks balanced out by some great actors, OO could easily do likewise

e: so wait is the evil casino owner they're ripping off also gonna be a woman

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I guess you mean Clem Harvey and Richard Benedict? The rest seemed to be fairly well known.

I actually meant Jemison and Qin Shaobo under "no-names" and Bernie Mac and Casey Affleck under "hacks", because I forgot that the Clooney remake wasn't the original :downs:

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Mordja posted:

I've always found it weird that "all-girl version of 'X' team" is somehow considered more progressive than "team made up of both genders working together as professionals" but whatever.

I've noticed that the kind of people who pay attention to this stuff seem to care more about whether there aren't any good male roles than whether there are good female roles

because the kind of lowest-common-denominator feminism that thinks big-budget Hollywood blockbusters are the be-all end-all of cultural discourse also tends to think "is it feminist" and "do men dislike it" are the same question

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

My Vag is basically a genderswapped version of My Dick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNgWQfOd-1M

(in other words it is a ripoff of a subpar joke rap song)

(an inferior ripoff)

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

ElGroucho posted:

If this is a parody of "My Neck, My Back" it really sucks

Again it is a direct response to an obscure lovely joke-rap song wherein Mickey Avalon and some other guy argue about which of their dicks is awesome and which of their dicks is horrible

but it doesn't work as well due to the jokes not being as good and there only being one of her

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Ork of Fiction posted:

Overselling a bad product erodes consumer confidence and is therefore Bad Marketing.

This doesn't seem to be the conventional wisdom of the movie industry in general

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

also

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Goddamn, go through the list of the top films this year and see how many of them are original ideas and not a sequel/remake/adaptation. Out of the current top 20 films there's only three: Zootopia, Secret Life of Pets and Central Intelligence.

Including adaptations in this makes it a little unfair IMHO, plenty of movies start off as books and I don't think there's really anything wrong with that :shrug:

The generally-accepted Best Movie Ever (among non-movie-nerds anyway) was a book adaptation

e: when you think about it every movie is an adaptation of a screenplay

loquacius fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Aug 11, 2016

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Can we please stop talking about Kung Fury ITT, I think there have been more posts about Kung Fury than there were about Ghostbusters by now

also the first time I heard someone talk about Kung Fury I thought he said "Kung Furry" and I side-eyed at him for a good ten seconds, ok that's the sum total of my contribution to the Kung Fury derail

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Pvt.Scott posted:

The female cast Ocean's Whatever remake had better be dykes all the way down. Not a single man or hint of heterosexuality in the film. I don't live in the Progressive Future Wonderland just to see tepid half-measures.

what if you had a few men but depicted them exclusively as dumb, dishonest, morally wrong, really hot, and dressed like they're in a fetish video

and have the women condescend to them while patting them on the butt or something

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

No but seriously fire Zack Snyder

Paul Feig appears to be facing some fallout now and his career is hurt if not crippled, and that's great, but Snyder needs to follow suit and fast

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

The best Snyder movie is Watchmen, and even that one feels like they should have picked someone else to direct it

Like, it's a decent movie because the source material was so good and Snyder wasn't quite able to gently caress it up, but not for lack of trying

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Germstore posted:

Sucker Punch is good. You just have to mute it and put on music.

Well I know what I'm doing next time I smoke weed

Don Tacorleone posted:

Looks like a sega Genesis era videogame cover

I would play this game

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Gammatron 64 posted:

I think they should make a Biblical Cinematic Universe where Ben-Hur teams up with Jesus, Moses and Saint Peter to fight the Devil. They constantly mention Mohammad but he's always just conveniently off-screen like Niles' ex-wife Maris on Frasier.

Mohammed is played by Wilson from Home Improvement

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Drunken Baker posted:

Not seen the film but how the hell does that work anyway? Ok, so I take it they go and visit without their parents and they haven't seen their grandad in a while. But surely they must have seen some pictures of them or something. There's a lot of contrivances there to set up that "twist".

Their mom is off on vacation with her new boyfriend and sent her kids off to stay with her parents who she'd had a falling out with and hadn't spoken to for decades. Which is a huge stretch, yeah, because why would you do that without talking to them first :confused:

Rutibex posted:

you know it never even occurred to me that Harold and Kumar was pushing any kind of hollywood representation barriers. it just seemed like good movie

maybe thats how the feminists should push their agenda? they could just make good movies then people will like their ideas without even knowing it

There is a sizeable contingent doing exactly that, they're just not the ones behind GB2016's online marketing campaign

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I was actually a little annoyed by that too because the article I read about it made a point of saying poo poo like "obviously this version of Pennywise prefers to strike quickly at children rather than lure them in with balloons" and I'm pretty sure luring children with balloons and poo poo like that is literally the reason he makes himself look like a clown at all

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I found the article I was thinking of

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/16/pennywise-costume-stephen-king-it-movie

Some of the aesthetic decisions made sense -- this one actually made it sound kinda cool

quote:

For Pennywise, there’s no need to stay faithful to any era’s fashions. He is a manifestation of what an immortal, supernatural being thinks of as a clown, amalgamating various styles it finds appealing. …Or maybe he’s just thinking of a toy that once belonged to a child he devoured.

but I still didn't like it and this quote sums up why

quote:

While this isn’t the bright and cheery Pennywise, Bryant’s version of the character prefers to camouflage himself and strike rather than lure children with lively plumage.

In other words he's just kind of a generic-type monster who chose clown-form for ICP Hot Topic reasons

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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

RE new Pennywise

I just now bothered wondering why a creature who was around for Elizabethan-era clowns or whatever, and kept around their ruffles and poo poo because it liked them, would live in Maine

Did Pennywise used to live in England and come over to America on the Mayflower or something?

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