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Sanguinia posted:Keeping Nakamura in NXT as Champion is the smartest possible thing for them to do, and I'm loving shocked that anyone believes otherwise. He can anchor that brand for 2 years basically alone if necessary, and as long as he's not getting screwed on either money OR merch, which all accounts say he's not, he's better off doing that than risking the pitfalls at the top of the mountain. I don't think I need to list all the reasons why anyone should be skeptical of Nakamura being properly pushed outside of NXT. Yes, in theory he could sell more T-shirts if he's pushed like Cena on Raw than he is being pushed like Cena in NXT, but there's a heck of a lot of risk with that reward when he could be the next idling Upper Midcarder like Sami Zayn instead. Nakamura is getting up there in age and his body is not in great shape. I doubt the guy left NJPW to not be on the biggest stage possible and I doubt WWE signed him for the kind of money it would take to get him to come over to do that either. He needs to be in front of as many people as possible as soon as possible because the product needs as much new as it can get. Meanwhile a guy like Itami should probably be in NXT a bit longer because he wasn't making the transition especially well.
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Jul 20, 2016 06:07
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Chris James 2 posted:What about Joe? Joe originally signed a contract they would let him do NXT and indies so I don't have as much of a problem with keeping him down another six months or so.
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Jul 20, 2016 06:26
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The Croc posted:Nation of Domination reforming. its the only thing that eludes us. You guys got the New Day. That's why you like it so much.
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Jul 27, 2016 07:42
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Seriously why the gently caress did they do that angle? All they did is bury the gently caress out of their roster, THEN their belts, for literally no reason. They thought it was a good idea and then couldn't think of a way out of it.
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Aug 15, 2016 08:50
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IcePhoenix posted:Yeah but I heard that it's gonna be taped before smackdowns instead of superstars. They plan for it to be a live show but they will tire of that idea quickly and it'll probably end up taped before Smackdown by Rumble.
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Nov 30, 2016 04:17
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Venomous posted:they're really going to embarrass the Wyatt Family for the fourth Wrestlemania in a row huh Would be hard to do with Bray Wyatt.
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Mar 26, 2017 23:19
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Venomous posted:Bray pinned John Cena and AJ Styles clean in the past couple of months. He has all the momentum behind him as champion, and he's actually been booked strongly up to this point. If they wanted a good, young main event heel to keep Smackdown going, it would be an incredibly good idea to have Bray retain against Randy at Wrestlemania. Bray was boring and bad until Randy Orton made him interesting again so it is only fair that Randy gets the belt.
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Mar 28, 2017 04:38
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Sanguinia posted:Bray was one of the hottest acts in wrestling when he feuded with Bryan and Cena leading up to Mania 30, pretending anything else was the case is revisionist history. It was not a case of all the heat actually being on Cena either, Bray was earning crowd reactions in his own right, not just playing out The Audience vs Cena Part 26. Bray was very unique when he came up and after the novelty wore off, his reactions did. His promos were samey, long and dull and his matches were rarely good. This isn't all his fault, but the guy was death on the microphone for a long time.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:11
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Benne posted:5Dimes lines are out now that the card is finalized There's no smart money in yet. Liquid Communism posted:Ask yourself honestly how much of 'his promos are poo poo' is you filtering them through the lens of knowing that he won't back up any of the poo poo he's talking because he's ultimately just there to job. His promos were really, really stale no matter how much he was jobbing. Hell his promos were barely about matches which is what made them stale after awhile. They were very unique to start and then stayed the same for too long.
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Mar 30, 2017 04:20
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RealFoxy posted:I mean honestly, as hard as the WWE tried to get over John Cena despite the fan's rejection they never even tried to have him end the Undertaker's wrestlemania streak. I don't remember every babyface on the show that was legitimately over coming out and cutting promos about how good and cool John Cena is (His debut doesn't count) They didn't just try to get Cena over he was extremely over and drew huge money for years and years. They also spent six months trying to show how Cena was better than the entire roster at their specialties and the internet was so angry at them for years and years for SUPERCENA. Benne posted:No poo poo, Sherlock. This thread's been around long enough that most people reading it are familiar with the concept of "smart money," but it's still fun to post early odds and see how they change over the weekend. Ok then why did you say they could flip if plans change. At this point the plans don't matter its a bunch of people donking money around. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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Mar 31, 2017 03:52
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DoctorGonzo posted:For fucks sake, everyone butt Naomi. It's her hometown.
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Apr 2, 2017 19:57
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hyper from Pixie Sticks posted:So why isn't she being jobbed out in a humiliating manner? Or did she tell Vince her hometown was somewhere else? You've gotta give the crowd some small glimmer of hope during the long march of despair.
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Apr 2, 2017 20:09
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Revenant Threshold posted:Roode/Itami is a weird feud. Roode's almost face-ish over with his theme and decent mic work. That doesn't matter against Nakamura who'd get cheered over almost anyone, but against Itami, who doesn't have anywhere approaching the charisma or (unless he's got a lot better while he's been injured) the mic skills? I can easily see the crowd cheering for Roode. If you told me 10 years ago that Nakamura would have more charisma than KENTA I'd leap over the ropes and then lightly kick you in the face as you lay on the mat.
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Apr 7, 2017 02:11
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Maybe they will actually push Matt Sydal now that he is banned from Japan.
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Apr 10, 2017 02:48
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KungFu Grip posted:He's racist and voted Trump Just like the company he works for but that doesn't stop people here from loving it!
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May 7, 2017 06:10
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VJeff posted:I love the talent because they're all extremely talented and by and large most of them seem like really cool, nice people, and my NINE NINETY NINE presumably, in part, reaches them in some way. There's not much moral conflict here. Actually they aren't giving talent a cut of the network money, so all the money they'd get for PPVs and DVDs that was lost with the switchover? They don't get a dime.
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May 7, 2017 15:33
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Chris James 2 posted:
Can't imagine how that one is gonna go! VJeff posted:Hmmmm. And when wrestlers tried to find out what the deal was management kept putting off addressing it until people stopped asking.
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May 7, 2017 20:18
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Venomous posted:tbh I realise now that they changed their plans for WM30 because Network subs weren't at a stable, profitable level and most of their revenue still came from PPVs and DVDs and stuff like that, whereas they could afford to push Roman into the main event of the last three WMs because people would still subscribe to the Network regardless of his push Doesn't really change when Vince dies because HHH loves Roman too. Well, by the time Vince dies Roman will probably be retired so yeah maybe the top guy will change by then.
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May 8, 2017 12:52
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Thank you for continuing to give Rush no reason to jump during a week where he's probably peeved at CMLL. You are the best, racist WWE.
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May 26, 2017 02:37
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Gargano is way too young to hold the belt.
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Jun 24, 2017 05:28
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bradzilla posted:I just realized WWE is putting Roman over the Undertaker, Brock Lesnar and John Cena in the span of one calendar year. And he still won't be over after it all He is hugely over, listen to the reactions he gets.
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Jun 29, 2017 22:46
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DarkstarIV posted:Apparently Jinder may be doing a media tour of India this week, if so, expect him to retain the title tonight. Expecting him to lose it before the India tour is pretty nutty.
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Oct 8, 2017 15:29
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DarkstarIV posted:They would have ample time to give it back to him, to be fair. There are five weeks between Hell in a Cell and Survivor Series, and the week after Survivor Series is Starrcade, where Jinder vs Nakamura for the title is being advertised. After that is the India tour, and there is talk of having a December PPV for Smackdown (Clash of Champions). You don't try to build a guy up for six months for a market to hot shot a title around like that right before you tour that market. Even if the house shows are a small part of the India picture, it's crazy to do that especially for someone with no momentum like Nakamura.
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Oct 8, 2017 15:49
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DarkstarIV posted:Yeah, and the reason Nakamura has no momentum is because of being stuck in this lovely feud with Jinder. I'd argue Dolph was a key factor as well, but Dolph kills the momentum of anyone he feuds with these days, not just Nakamura. Also you could argue they didn't need to hotshot the belt to Jinder either, since he had pretty much no momentum heading into his first title victory. And like I posted above, he's not helping WWE get into the Indian market, and is almost certainly driving down gate numbers and subscriber numbers across the board. There are other factors in that, but I would say Jinder is a big cause of that. So Nakamura had momentum before this feud and wasn't just coasting having average matches and one brief cool exchange with AJ?
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Oct 8, 2017 16:32
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Not sure Ryder or Dolph would be much of a draw for the big indies either Dolph would make really good money on the indies for awhile.
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Oct 8, 2017 21:53
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Billzasilver posted:I like to think most good WWE moments happen by accident. Good for Kallisto, winning before Vince could notice the change of plans. I'd be shocked if the call didn't come from Vince. DeathChicken posted:Given WWE's history, I wouldn't be surprised if Neville was planned to lose, he left instead, so they had Kalisto win as a gesture of "See you would have totally won the belt if you showed up" Sounds about right if not an outright way to mock him for leaving.
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Oct 12, 2017 19:04
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rovert posted:This Shield run is like one of the bad 90s Horsemen reunions. Gonna be sad when Dean Ambrose dies.
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Nov 6, 2017 23:53
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Congrats to Champion of the Month AJ Styles, wrongly robbing Okada and his perfect tweet.
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Nov 7, 2017 22:02
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It's smart of WWE not to have Brock squash their new Indian Icon, AJ is old and disposable.
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Nov 7, 2017 22:14
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Vilkata posted:Did AJ have any outstanding matches against hosses in NJPW? He had some really good matches with Abyss in TNA 10 years ago!
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Nov 7, 2017 22:42
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Well yeah, but that still doesn't explain why the title switch happens NOW Nakamura's run has kind of sucked while AJ's has been good.
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Nov 7, 2017 22:52
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Chris James 2 posted:TNA Look I know I just posted how D'amore booked some bad poo poo too during his run in TNA so we shouldn't be surprised BUT HOW DOES THIS COMPANY NEVER CHANGE
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Nov 9, 2017 04:50
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exploded mummy posted:It should have been Christopher Daniels Should've been AJ Styles.
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Nov 9, 2017 05:21
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I personally hope Jinder loses the title right before WrestleMania only to win it back the Smackdown after and continues this pattern for years to come.
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Nov 21, 2017 23:49
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Djarum posted:I canceled my Network subscription after Survivor Series and I probably won't be back until the Rumble. WWE has just gotten so stale and boring even for their standards. It just gets so hard to watch people you like have the same boring match every week and hear people talk like they have had a stroke. There's plenty more CMLL streaming live on youtube too!
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Nov 30, 2017 19:43
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VJeff posted:Tye was in the Rumble 100% just to avoid a bad reaction when somebody else came out at 10, it's a unique situation that doesn't apply to Gargano. Ok, Bo Dallas was put in the Rumble and still poo poo up NXT for another year, they put Itami in the Andre Battle Royal, etc.
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Dec 4, 2017 01:11
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DarkstarIV posted:That's what I feel as well. I just hope they don't give Shayna a long title run if so. She's really not great in the ring unless the person she's working with is decent to great. I guess on a personal level, I don't really want to see her win because I'm afraid she'll get the Lesnar treatment and just steamroll the roster in five minute squash matches, and that would damage the prestige of the NXT Women's Championship, which has been pretty solid until now. She's been wrestling for two years.
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Dec 8, 2017 22:30
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Djarum posted:Wow. Those Harris Brothers are some real winners. I have heard some really disturbing stories about them over the years. I am kind of surprised that people are actually willing to do business with them. My favorite Harris story is Macho Man heard Hogan might be in the area when he did his brief TNA stint in 2004. He was afraid Hogan might try to shoot on him so he had Ron Harris act as his bodyguard.
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oatgan posted:I think they produced his album or something? There was some prior relationship from Randys rap career that led to this. He managed the tour. He was working in country and Christian music at the time. No clue if he was trying to manage Prussian Blue.
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