Spoilers thread: Spoiled Wrestling in Every Sense of the Term [no spoiler tags]

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Responding to a thing from the last thread:

Benne posted:

They're already paying Nakamura main roster money and sticking him in NXT longterm is a comical waste of his talents.

There is an argument to be made that with the oncoming death of television via the internet that NXT is just as valuable a place for him as Raw, since he will be promoted on the television shows anyway. He will still be on the best show of the three and proceed to have the best matches. The Wrestlemania weekend NXT show was roughly ten orders of magnitude better than Wrestlemania. If Nakamura is making main roster money, then gently caress it, who gives a poo poo?

# ¿ Jul 20, 2016 04:43

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# ¿ May 6, 2024 06:47

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Am I to gather by that photo that Triple H now opposes Stephanie?

# ¿ Sep 4, 2016 20:08

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I thought the whole thing with Hero was that he bombed his physical.

# ¿ Sep 25, 2016 05:13

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Basic Chunnel posted:

I fully expect them to pull their punches, Lesnar vs Ambrose style. It definitely won't leave the cage

Charlotte will give her the dreaded Avalanche Baby Drop off the top of the cell.

# ¿ Oct 4, 2016 21:15

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I am not buying Sasha/Charlotte as a feud where Charlotte deserves to have the title hot-shot back and forth like it's on the level of Rock/Foley or something. Just let Sasha have the loving title instead of repeatedly trying to get Charlotte over as female Triple H.

Charlotte winning on Sunday made absolutely no sense and made even less sense as the match went on.

Charlotte is not remotely as over as Sasha and she's not as good, either.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2016 02:35

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oatgan posted:

Almost always correct barring weird disputed dq finishes

I do get the feeling that inside people are betting on booking that they know about. In fact that's pretty much the inescapable conclusion.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2016 21:37

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Finally a chance for Dolph Ziggler to have another heatless title match

# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 19:31

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Chris James 2 posted:

Tribute to the Troops

Lillian sang the anthem
Opening segment with Reigns, Owens, Rusev, Lana, and Cass. Foley makes a tag match for later: Reigns and Cass vs Owens and Rusev
Sheamus and Cesaro defeated Golden Truth, the Club, and the Shining Stars. Will fight New Day for the tag belts at Roadblock 2
Miz issued an open challenge, non-title. Apollo Crews accepted and gets the win after a distraction from comedian Gabriel "Fluffy" Iglesias
The Wyatts defeated American Alpha and Dolph Ziggler
Backstage segment with Bayley, Dana, and a service dog
Bayley pins Dana
Swann, TJP and Gallagher defeated Kendrick, Nese, and Gulak
Backstage segment with Shield, New Day, and the Club
Reigns and Cass pin Owens and Rusev

Ziggler not over enough as a face to win on a Tribute to the Troops show.

# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 20:00

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of8kY_IbYq4

# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 23:57

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To take a page from MRP's book and/or be a devil's advocate, the very fact that Goldberg and Brock don't have to work as hard as guys lower on the card demonstrates their superiority, because their character work is strong and their wrestling is part of their character work. As opposed to the litany of guys who supposedly have gimmicks but when they get in the ring wrestle identically, making every WWE PPV a slog to sit through (especially now that there is no such thing as a cooldown match on a WWE show). Goldberg and Brock came up in a time where that was much less the case, Goldberg especially.

A lot of hardcores think Goldberg can't go because his specialty is the three-minute match. Thing is, those matches are better than the majority of 20-minute matches.

I frankly cannot wait for Brock/Goldberg.

# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 21:18

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Strawberry Panda posted:

But Brock vs. Goldberg will probably be a 20 minute match!

And judging by Wrestlemania 20, the audience will be blown away.

# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 21:41

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Sanguinia posted:

How do you account for Brock's schtick getting noticeably worse recently when you apply this theory? Everything Brock has done since the Ambrose match (and arguably the Triple Threat before that) has led the audience reactions have grow noticeably weaker. Unlike Foochs I don't think its because the Suplex City Match has gotten stale. When Brock first started this run with the Cena squash, everything after that raised the stakes, with the one exception being the Rollins match but nobody cared because Rollins had been booked to be a chickenshit weakling who had also hosed Brock over, so nobody complained. The Roman/Dean Triple Threat he was barely involved with, but he still had momentum so nobody really noticed that he phoned it in for the most part in that bout.

Then came the Ambrose match, a match that ended right when it was getting good, almost as if it had been cut clean in half, with a decisive squash of someone who at the time was almost indisputably the crowd favorite. And then came the reveal that he cheated at UFC 200, and a dumbass LOSS to the Undertaker via passout, and a largely forgettable followup, and Randy Orton's Broken Skull Match. For not needing to work as hard, Brock's star sure has been falling since he stopped working a little bit harder with every match so the stakes would go up.

Goldberg is a different animal because we're still at the start of his Shocking Monster Run. Him killing Brock is analogous to Brock killing Cena. And just like when Suplex City started, Goldberg is currently raising the stakes and the effort just a bit with every new appearance. If he stops doing that, I think the crowd will sour on him just as they've been souring on Brock for the last 9 months.

Maybe Brock vs Goldberg will be the moment when Brock finally breaks the trend and gets back in the saddle, but I think it's just going to be a waste of Goldberg's momentum because Brock is going to keep being lazy because he thinks he can, and his returns will diminish faster and faster as a result.

Brock should not be wrestling midcarders for no reason, for starters. Not that many people actually give a poo poo about Dean Ambrose, who is a cool character until he actually wrestles, and that number is not going to expand when you kill him dead. Randy Orton was fighting Brock for no real reason, the match didn't really have heat.

# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 22:09

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Sanguinia posted:

Midcarders?

Yes, midcarders

Booker T got a lot of title shots too, no one would confuse him for the focus of the company at any time though.

And getting the iron man position in a rumble means absolutely jack poo poo at this point.

# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 23:02

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# ¿ May 6, 2024 06:47

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IIRC from the Wrestlemania 20 match, Goldberg did his best but Brock was immediately shook.

Brock as we later learned is hilariously antisocial and doesn't really give a poo poo about the biz, which explains that bit.

# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 08:38

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