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Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Project Moonbase has two of the better theater visual gags, with batman style punch effects in the commando cody short and cuecards in the movie.

# ¿ Nov 29, 2016 06:45

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# ¿ May 3, 2024 02:39

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Really, the main writing thing I'll miss is the constant midwest references, enough of my pop culture references LA life as is. I have no fear that Elliot Kalan will do a good job, because the Flophouse is amazing.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 16:14

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Mister Kingdom posted:

I'm almost finished with my complete re-watch and last night was Squirm.

Well, uh, okay.

(squirms)

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 22:07

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

I hope they get a good moral panic/teen issues movie in the new season.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 00:39

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Yeah Joel was a successful touring comic that did sets on Letterman, SNL, and other stuff during the huge 80s stand up boom. He almost had his own network sitcom but instead got remarkably disenchanted and burnt out by LA and moved back to Minneapolis.

Mike's last gig was TGI Fridays.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 03:23

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

I think both Kevin and Bill tried to ape their predecessors initially, but then both obviously got much better. Bill's trial by fire learning how to be a puppeteer was also a bit fraught, since you can tell in Revenge of the Creature he's not quite gotten the hang of it yet.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2017 04:12

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

It's a good list but Red Zone Cuba should be higher. That and Skydivers are favorites.

Beast of Yucca Flats is a slog though.

We're aligned exactly on Hobgoblins though. I love that riff and it's an easy watch. Always confused by those who couldn't tolerate it.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2017 12:31

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

OldSenileGuy posted:

I can't remember - did the original Mads ever actually refer to their scheme as "Mystery Science Theater 3000"?

Joel refers to the theater as it once.

# ¿ Mar 22, 2017 21:09

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

The Lobotomy Kid posted:

If we're talking underrated episodes, I always felt that Riding With Death should be on more people's lists.

Many years ago I watched it with a group of friends including one brand new acquaintance whose name was Ben Murphy.

We were howling laughing. "Lucky guy, he's about to find out I'm Ben Murphy."

# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 13:36

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

On the topic of relatively good movies, I really enjoy Danger: Diabolik. The DVD of it out now is a different dub too, which has some better performances/dialogue (iirc, I don't think it has "Is that stud...coming?")

# ¿ Mar 29, 2017 13:46

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Rifftrax is super hit or miss for me. It seems like sometimes they're just bored as hell with the material, and sometimes they're fascinated or enraged.

Some of those hits though--- Twilight, Santa Claus and the Ice Cream Bunny, Setting Up A Room...

Their shorts are usually a sure thing.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 14:30

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Anything that isn't the screechy voice Josh used in the first half dozenish KTMA episodes for Servo is unacceptable.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2017 06:03

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Diabolik900 posted:

I'll warn real quick though that the opening host segment is exposition-heavy, and in my opinion a little rough, but hang in there. Once they get into the theater for the first time it's smooth sailing.

Joel kept mentioning this before the screening, so he's also aware it's pretty kludgy.

The rest is awesome though.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2017 13:43

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Uh I too am watching Cry Wilderness in the wee hours and what a delight. I enjoyed Reptilicus but this feels like vintage mst.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2017 12:55

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Time Travelers was a nice solid B episode of MST3K. The movie was like a middle of the road TOS episode, and the riffing was good not great.

I really like that they're using good prints for the movies this time around, it's cool to see something that looks generally pretty sharp.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2017 18:50

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

It always seems like Mallon was the fellow that the cast had the most anger towards.

If this keeps running I'm sure that Mike will eventually get over it and make his cameo same way that Tom Baker eventually did for Doctor Who.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2017 23:55

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

remusclaw posted:

From my limited understanding, they didn't commit fully to writing before riffing until the second season or so. KTMA is way harder to watch than season 1. There are episodes of it with Joel in the theatre alone.

Season 1 was mostly written, Josh was chafing at it though. They clearly didn't have a thought out system for writing or how often to put jokes in until season 2, though really season one picks up slowly as it rolls along.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 01:12

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

howe_sam posted:

Joel/Mike & the bots weren't nearly as active in the theater as Jonah and the bots are, right? Even excluding Servo flying around it seems like they're doing more while watching the film. Which catches me off guard because I tend to ignore the silhouettes when watching the movie.

The height of screen interaction in the original was probably in the first season, what with them putting their hand over a person singing's mouth and it muting, and Joel putting up "BANG" and "POW" signs during a fight. It never got that involved again, probably because they were a pain to set up in real time for one gag.

Since now it's not all being shot in one continuous take with them in the theater, there's nothing stopping them from goofing visually.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2017 00:16

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Holy wow those Wizards movies were amazing. Two favorites of the season so far.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2017 23:28

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

There's also 4 minutes of kickstarter credits that eat into the runtime.

# ¿ May 2, 2017 23:37

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

I love Manos and have seen it with MST/Riff multiple times and I sat in a theater and saw the unriffed remaster and cackled the whole time. I love the movie, it's just so hauntingly inept.

# ¿ May 25, 2017 15:12

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

It's going to take a couple watches before I really land on which episodes were my absolute favorites this season, especially because I'm pretty sure the excitement over NEW probably fogged up some of my opinions.

But the Wizards movies and Cry Wilderness are definitely up there. I really enjoyed Yongary too.

Frankly the only episode that has kind of missed for me was Starcrash, just because it felt like they couldn't do anything to make that goofy movie funnier. There were some good gags in there, but it kinda fell flat for me.

# ¿ May 27, 2017 23:09

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

"Sam, my papers are at a slight angle."

Unless they crop them down nu-MST3K most likely won't do any of those terrible TV pilot movies and that's too bad because they were often so perfect.

I've probably watched Eegah and Hobgoblins the most. I probably wore the VHS out on both from rewatching in my youth.

# ¿ May 28, 2017 17:02

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

I feel fairly confident in guessing they're not going to put black bars on the side for 4:3. It's far more likely that they'd crop the movie down (as, you point out, they already have).

# ¿ May 29, 2017 16:01

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Bridget and Mary Jo's rifftrax are excellent. It's kind of refreshing to watch one where it just seems like two laughing close friends just messing around. They feel a lot looser, which is a good alternative to the laser focus timed riffs of the new show (which I also love)

# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 04:53

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

I like Reptilicus ok! It's definitely a B, but it's got some solid jokes and an all timer song.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2017 13:48

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

I don't know why Starcrash doesn't work for me as an episode. The movie is just loving exhausting with all the constant insanity that it throws at you. I would have thought that was a good thing, but it just doesn't work for me, neither as a good-bad movie or the riffing for it (though, there's some great gems in there).

I love the back half of the season, starting with the Herc movie.

# ¿ Jul 4, 2017 01:11

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

On paper it's the perfect MST3K fodder though. An italian star wars ripoff made with 5% the budget, a robot with a southern accent, a mincing villain, a hero who constantly receives brand new superpowers that we've never heard of, Christopher Plummer, and David loving Hasselhoff!!!

I was really looking forward to seeing it, and boy oh boy was it a bummer.

# ¿ Jul 4, 2017 01:18

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Avalanche grew on me a lot. I think also I got tired of the sheer volume of monster movies.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2018 22:24

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

If KTMA counts I�d add Phase IV as another good movie. Directed by Saul Bass! C�mon!

# ¿ Sep 30, 2018 22:36

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Mitchell is funny but I hate the sound quality of the movie and it throws me every time.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2018 23:32

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Moon Zero Two for me is a total sleeper. People single out a lot of the other back end of season one episodes, but this one always worked for me. I think its likely because it's a pretty painless movie. It's just dopey.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2018 18:15

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Moon Zero Two, Phase IV, and Danger: Diabolik are probably the MST3K movies I enjoy the most as movies.

I also didn't mind Space Travelers that much.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2018 18:48

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Joel tossing it to footage from his earlier turkey days throws a real contrast to today's, where he's just winging it without much prep.

# ¿ Nov 19, 2018 03:59

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

This has been said and I�ll reiterate� this is far more confident and well paced than last season. The host segments also look better.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2018 20:31

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Jet Jaguar posted:

The only thing missing from �Lords of the Deep� is Sylvester McCoy popping up and asking what�s all this then.

Thank you! Oh my god - Lords of the Deep is 100% a bad to mediocre Doctor Who episode. A bunch of bland scientists trapped in a base, working for some strange corporation. Really any doc post 3 showing up would make sense.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2018 14:36

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

OldTennisCourt posted:

Hey, sorry to bumble in, but I'd like to know what the general thoughts are on season 12. I really enjoyed the last season a lot but it seemed like they had not fully found their footing until the end.

More confident. I like the host segments a little more - they don't feel as weirdly flat and static. The riff pacing is better, and Jonah doesn't seem as nervous.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2018 18:37

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Powered Descent posted:

I really like that this is true in a literal sense.

It really bugged me in the S11 segments how flat the scenes were. As mentioned earlier, the Mike host segments all looked a bit better - Jeff Stonehouse did a lot of interesting things with lighting and moving Cambot around in the scifi era.

They brought in Rob Schrab to direct the host segments this time around and you could really tell that someone with experience in the director's chair was there. MST3K obviously doesn't have a lot of sets to work with, but you can really tell the difference.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2018 20:32

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

The Undead is a solid episode. That teaser with Mike going through some kind of work PTSD is a favorite.

# ¿ Dec 27, 2018 13:17

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# ¿ May 3, 2024 02:39

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

ZZT the Fifth posted:

Hell, Agent Double 007/Operation Kid Brother had a soundtrack by the legendary Ennio Morricone.

As does Diabolik. The score for that movie is spectacular.

# ¿ Jan 25, 2019 23:37

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